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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/01/change-in-managers/comment-page-2/#comment-203310</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79-- oh, that wasn&#039;t me, that was a [male] caller to the radio. 

and (#78) why would it be odd to talk to the woman he has been with for about 45 of his 58 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79&#8211; oh, that wasn&#8217;t me, that was a [male] caller to the radio. </p>
<p>and (#78) why would it be odd to talk to the woman he has been with for about 45 of his 58 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/01/change-in-managers/comment-page-2/#comment-202915</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And #78.  No, I don&#039;t find it odd that Sharon was so visible yesterday.  It was touching to see how supportive she was, as I imagine she&#039;s been every day of that 35 years they referred to.

In fact, I think it&#039;s a lot MORE odd that we have some of the attention-grabbers like ARod&#039;s wife, who was photographed yesterday wearing a t-shirt with a prohibited-in-Yankee-Stadium message that most people would have been escorted out of the ballpark for wearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And #78.  No, I don&#8217;t find it odd that Sharon was so visible yesterday.  It was touching to see how supportive she was, as I imagine she&#8217;s been every day of that 35 years they referred to.</p>
<p>In fact, I think it&#8217;s a lot MORE odd that we have some of the attention-grabbers like ARod&#8217;s wife, who was photographed yesterday wearing a t-shirt with a prohibited-in-Yankee-Stadium message that most people would have been escorted out of the ballpark for wearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/01/change-in-managers/comment-page-2/#comment-202911</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75  You should know better than that, msb.  There&#039;s nothing worse than a &quot;retired&quot; husband of a menopausal woman.  

They get in the way, they argue with you all the time but think they&#039;re &quot;communicating&quot;, they want your attention like a 4 year old kid, they follow you around and ask what you&#039;re doing (and if you&#039;re really lucky and they&#039;re &quot;handy&quot;, they&#039;ll ask if they can help -- unless it&#039;s doing the dishes or vacuuming).

I hope Mike Hargrove is easy to get along with at his leisure, because if he isn&#039;t, Sharon is going to get him &quot;treated&quot; (if the few of us who&#039;ve speculated on that issue are right) and push him out the door to find another job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75  You should know better than that, msb.  There&#8217;s nothing worse than a &#8220;retired&#8221; husband of a menopausal woman.  </p>
<p>They get in the way, they argue with you all the time but think they&#8217;re &#8220;communicating&#8221;, they want your attention like a 4 year old kid, they follow you around and ask what you&#8217;re doing (and if you&#8217;re really lucky and they&#8217;re &#8220;handy&#8221;, they&#8217;ll ask if they can help &#8212; unless it&#8217;s doing the dishes or vacuuming).</p>
<p>I hope Mike Hargrove is easy to get along with at his leisure, because if he isn&#8217;t, Sharon is going to get him &#8220;treated&#8221; (if the few of us who&#8217;ve speculated on that issue are right) and push him out the door to find another job.</p>
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		<title>By: bat guano</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/01/change-in-managers/comment-page-2/#comment-202895</link>
		<dc:creator>bat guano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think #75 may be onto something. Does it strike anyone else as odd that Grover&#039;s wife is so publicly involved in this? And didn&#039;t he seem less relieved than you&#039;d expect someone to be if he&#039;d just had the weight of the world taken from his shoulders? Do you suppose Grover&#039;s been a naughty boy and Sharon gave him some sort of ultimatum? Pure speculation on my part and probably wrong, but it makes about as much sense as anything else......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think #75 may be onto something. Does it strike anyone else as odd that Grover&#8217;s wife is so publicly involved in this? And didn&#8217;t he seem less relieved than you&#8217;d expect someone to be if he&#8217;d just had the weight of the world taken from his shoulders? Do you suppose Grover&#8217;s been a naughty boy and Sharon gave him some sort of ultimatum? Pure speculation on my part and probably wrong, but it makes about as much sense as anything else&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, Fain ... there has to be something unhealthy with the Mariners FO if both Lou &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; Hargrove leave and Melvin gets canned after an extension. 

Apparently Dick has never actually watched any other franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, Fain &#8230; there has to be something unhealthy with the Mariners FO if both Lou <em>and</em> Hargrove leave and Melvin gets canned after an extension. </p>
<p>Apparently Dick has never actually watched any other franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: CouchGM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CouchGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The broadcasts are so much better this year than they’ve been in years.

I agree, but do we really need to get the traffic reports shoehorned into the games???
Seems they can say, each break in the action will be lead off with a traffic update. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The broadcasts are so much better this year than they’ve been in years.</p>
<p>I agree, but do we really need to get the traffic reports shoehorned into the games???<br />
Seems they can say, each break in the action will be lead off with a traffic update. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oooh, the best theory yet. 

Hargrove is leaving because a menopausal Sharon doesn&#039;t want an empty nest :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooh, the best theory yet. </p>
<p>Hargrove is leaving because a menopausal Sharon doesn&#8217;t want an empty nest <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Thomsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thanks to USS Mariner readers (and Kitsap Mariner fans) Nathan Bishop, Eric Newcomer, Laurie Jones and Mark Biggs, who all responded to my call for comment on Hargrove&#039;s resignation in the Kitsap Sun.

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/jul/01/shock-and-confusion-kitsap-reacts-to-mike/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thanks to USS Mariner readers (and Kitsap Mariner fans) Nathan Bishop, Eric Newcomer, Laurie Jones and Mark Biggs, who all responded to my call for comment on Hargrove&#8217;s resignation in the Kitsap Sun.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/jul/01/shock-and-confusion-kitsap-reacts-to-mike/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/jul/01/shock-and-confusion-kitsap-reacts-to-mike/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jamesllegade</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamesllegade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heritage?

What is lacking from japanese heritage is the open air pissing and moaning that most american/latin players do in the press and in the locker room.

If you are japanese and do not like the manager you play hard for him everyday and then just leave the team when your contract is up.

I think we can all agree that would be bad... Worse than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heritage?</p>
<p>What is lacking from japanese heritage is the open air pissing and moaning that most american/latin players do in the press and in the locker room.</p>
<p>If you are japanese and do not like the manager you play hard for him everyday and then just leave the team when your contract is up.</p>
<p>I think we can all agree that would be bad&#8230; Worse than this.</p>
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		<title>By: spitball</title>
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		<dc:creator>spitball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As has already been stated, I don&#039;t think that the other shoe has fallen yet. Until it does, we&#039;re all left fumbling around in the dark, since there are really no good baseball reasons for Grover&#039;s abrupt departure.

In explaining yesterday&#039;s events to my wife (NOT someone who&#039;s knee-deep in game arcana!), her immediate response was, &quot;I hope that he or his wife aren&#039;t sick.&quot;

Intuition&#039;s a hard thing to wrap one&#039;s arms around, especially if one is inclined only towards empirical explanations. But sometimes, gut feelings turn out to be right.

I just hope this isn&#039;t one of those times.

SB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has already been stated, I don&#8217;t think that the other shoe has fallen yet. Until it does, we&#8217;re all left fumbling around in the dark, since there are really no good baseball reasons for Grover&#8217;s abrupt departure.</p>
<p>In explaining yesterday&#8217;s events to my wife (NOT someone who&#8217;s knee-deep in game arcana!), her immediate response was, &#8220;I hope that he or his wife aren&#8217;t sick.&#8221;</p>
<p>Intuition&#8217;s a hard thing to wrap one&#8217;s arms around, especially if one is inclined only towards empirical explanations. But sometimes, gut feelings turn out to be right.</p>
<p>I just hope this isn&#8217;t one of those times.</p>
<p>SB</p>
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