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		<title>By: mwick243</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205912</link>
		<dc:creator>mwick243</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the Kazmir suggestion was a bit out there, that&#039;s why I said &quot;outside chance.&quot; But I figured, of all the decently promising youngsters in the league, Kazmir has been struggling more than most. 

This may be another crazy suggestion, but let&#039;s say, even though they are apparently close to a deal, the M&#039;s were to willing to part with Ichiro. 
How about a deal with Boston for Crisp, Hansen, and either Lester or Buchholz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Kazmir suggestion was a bit out there, that&#8217;s why I said &#8220;outside chance.&#8221; But I figured, of all the decently promising youngsters in the league, Kazmir has been struggling more than most. </p>
<p>This may be another crazy suggestion, but let&#8217;s say, even though they are apparently close to a deal, the M&#8217;s were to willing to part with Ichiro.<br />
How about a deal with Boston for Crisp, Hansen, and either Lester or Buchholz?</p>
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		<title>By: John in L.A.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205661</link>
		<dc:creator>John in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>384 - why are those things mutually exclusive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>384 &#8211; why are those things mutually exclusive?</p>
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		<title>By: kidlondon</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205627</link>
		<dc:creator>kidlondon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may seem like there&#039;d  be a lot of pressure on Jones, but there really isn&#039;t any easing into the bigs in my opinion. Besides, he doesn&#039;t have to live up to our expectations to be an improvement: I agree with what Dave has already said that he can bat .230 and it won&#039;t hurt, and an athletic chimpanzee could outfield Raul.

Plain and simple, we can tell Adam to go out there and just have a good time playing ball and he&#039;ll still improve our chances in the second half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may seem like there&#8217;d  be a lot of pressure on Jones, but there really isn&#8217;t any easing into the bigs in my opinion. Besides, he doesn&#8217;t have to live up to our expectations to be an improvement: I agree with what Dave has already said that he can bat .230 and it won&#8217;t hurt, and an athletic chimpanzee could outfield Raul.</p>
<p>Plain and simple, we can tell Adam to go out there and just have a good time playing ball and he&#8217;ll still improve our chances in the second half.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205626</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got it, I got it, Victor Zambrano just got released.  Maybe we can pick him up with the hopes of trading him to Tampa Bay for Kazmir ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got it, I got it, Victor Zambrano just got released.  Maybe we can pick him up with the hopes of trading him to Tampa Bay for Kazmir &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: thepull</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205622</link>
		<dc:creator>thepull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kazmir? I hope that was some kind of huge joke, or maybe you are high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kazmir? I hope that was some kind of huge joke, or maybe you are high?</p>
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		<title>By: mwick243</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205614</link>
		<dc:creator>mwick243</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, does anyone think that maybe Adam Jones will not be able to live up to these &#039;savior&#039; expectations? I understand that he has improved in the minors since last season, but isn&#039;t this a little too much pressure to be placing on the best prospect in the organization? 

What is more important: Adding Jones to be a factor in this year&#039;s playoff push... or easing Jones into the Bigs to ensure a very productive 5+ years out of him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, does anyone think that maybe Adam Jones will not be able to live up to these &#8217;savior&#8217; expectations? I understand that he has improved in the minors since last season, but isn&#8217;t this a little too much pressure to be placing on the best prospect in the organization? </p>
<p>What is more important: Adding Jones to be a factor in this year&#8217;s playoff push&#8230; or easing Jones into the Bigs to ensure a very productive 5+ years out of him?</p>
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		<title>By: mwick243</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205613</link>
		<dc:creator>mwick243</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glaus was just an idea that came up... I think you are correct though, that the current situation does not call for bringing in a slugger who could only  be counted on realistically to DH.

Who would the Mariners have to give up from their system to get Kyle Lohse?

Also, I havent been able to find any &quot;on-the-block&quot; news from the Devil Rays, but I was wondering if there was maybe an outside chance at landing Scott Kazmir. I know he has a lot of promise, but do you think that Tampa would be willing to give him up for a combination of a vet (Vidro or Ibanez) and a decent prospect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glaus was just an idea that came up&#8230; I think you are correct though, that the current situation does not call for bringing in a slugger who could only  be counted on realistically to DH.</p>
<p>Who would the Mariners have to give up from their system to get Kyle Lohse?</p>
<p>Also, I havent been able to find any &#8220;on-the-block&#8221; news from the Devil Rays, but I was wondering if there was maybe an outside chance at landing Scott Kazmir. I know he has a lot of promise, but do you think that Tampa would be willing to give him up for a combination of a vet (Vidro or Ibanez) and a decent prospect?</p>
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		<title>By: LoydKristmis</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205610</link>
		<dc:creator>LoydKristmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I think you can probably add 5-10 errors to the M’s if another scorekeeper was making the calls...&quot;

I think  you can say that about the effect of any scorekeeper on the home team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I think you can probably add 5-10 errors to the M’s if another scorekeeper was making the calls&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think  you can say that about the effect of any scorekeeper on the home team.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#379, I don&#039;t think I could have put that any better.  It&#039;s kind of like people looking for the next Randy Johnson.  Being &quot;6&#039;9&quot;, lefthanded, and throwing heat doesn&#039;t automagically turn you into one of the best 5-10 pitchers in history.  

Physical comps are only useful in addition to statistical comps, and alone is not predictive of a players stats.  Being fast doesnt automatically make you a good defender.  Being a good athelete doesn&#039;t make you doesn&#039;t automatically make you a good ball player.  Heck, you can have no stuff (speed + movement) and still be one of the better pitchers around, and have all the stuff in the world and still suck.  

Also there&#039;s more to defense than catching throws a few inches outside of what another player would.  Defense is speed, positioning, routes, arm, fielding ability (ability to catch the balls thrown at you), and footwork, and I&#039;m sure somthing I&#039;ve missed.  The best bet is too look at all the various (good) PBP defensive metrics like ZR and UZR and PMR over about a 3 year span to gauge defense, and if you do that it&#039;s obvious Sexson and Ibanez are two of the worst defenders allowed to play in the field every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#379, I don&#8217;t think I could have put that any better.  It&#8217;s kind of like people looking for the next Randy Johnson.  Being &#8220;6&#8242;9&#8243;, lefthanded, and throwing heat doesn&#8217;t automagically turn you into one of the best 5-10 pitchers in history.  </p>
<p>Physical comps are only useful in addition to statistical comps, and alone is not predictive of a players stats.  Being fast doesnt automatically make you a good defender.  Being a good athelete doesn&#8217;t make you doesn&#8217;t automatically make you a good ball player.  Heck, you can have no stuff (speed + movement) and still be one of the better pitchers around, and have all the stuff in the world and still suck.  </p>
<p>Also there&#8217;s more to defense than catching throws a few inches outside of what another player would.  Defense is speed, positioning, routes, arm, fielding ability (ability to catch the balls thrown at you), and footwork, and I&#8217;m sure somthing I&#8217;ve missed.  The best bet is too look at all the various (good) PBP defensive metrics like ZR and UZR and PMR over about a 3 year span to gauge defense, and if you do that it&#8217;s obvious Sexson and Ibanez are two of the worst defenders allowed to play in the field every day.</p>
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		<title>By: jake squid</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/08/second-half-suggestions/comment-page-8/#comment-205604</link>
		<dc:creator>jake squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A large wingspan alone doesn’t automatically make you a good first baseman...&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, indeed.  Remember what a great first baseman Dave Kingman was?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A large wingspan alone doesn’t automatically make you a good first baseman&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Yes, indeed.  Remember what a great first baseman Dave Kingman was?</p>
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