Comments on: Sean Green

By: Mat

Mat — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:09:53 +0000

My point, of course, is that if he continues to pitch this year, his HR rate will almost certainly go up. All of the historical evidence says that it will.

If by “almost certainly” you mean it has about a 2/3 chance of increasing compared to a 1/3 chance of staying the same or dropping even lower, fine. But I don’t consider that to be “almost certainly.”

By: MarinerDan

MarinerDan — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:42:24 +0000

No, not necessarily. Will it probably go up? Sure, but it’s by no means required or “bound” to go up.

Look, obviously it is not a certainty that it will go up. He could get hit by a bus today and then it certainly would not go up. My point, of course, is that if he continues to pitch this year, his HR rate will almost certainly go up. All of the historical evidence says that it will.

By: jullberg

jullberg — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:54:45 +0000

Let’s be honest, if we trade for Lidge, Otsuka, and Gagne, we could get rid of all of our starters besides King Felix and have everyone pitch one inning a game. Problem solved. This is the only situation where trading for a reliever would help this team… we need starting pitching.

By: Colm

Colm — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:38:22 +0000

You’re aging Spokane Dude. That was the 2001 bullpen. 1997 was the horror of Bobby Ayala, Bob Wells, Heathcliff Slocumb, Mike Timlin and Paul Spoljaric.

To be fair, some or most of those guys might have been good in 1997, but I only remember how lousy most were in 1998.

As to “shortening the game” surely you aren’t suggesting adding to a 12 man bullpen?

By: spokane dude

spokane dude — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:56:03 +0000

I remember back in ‘97 (maybe it was a year or two later) when the M’s had two sets of righty-lefty reliever teams to set up whoever was closing then (Sasaki?). Jeff Nelson and Arthur Rhodes usually worked the seventh and eighth innings and, when they needed rest, Jose Paniagua and Norm Charlton usually worked earlier. It worked pretty well and I think this year’s team has that same capability with Sherrill and Green as one team and O’Flaherty and someone else (maybe Lowe) as the second team. If nothing else, it gives McLaren lots of mix-and-match possibilities in the last two-three innings.

As for trade possibilities, it could be the Mariners decide getting a starter will cost too much so they target one more decent reliever to shorten the game, letting the bullpen more of the burden each game.

By: all4ms

all4ms — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:08:25 +0000

I think McLaren must have read your post, Dave. It’s the 8th inning with the Ms up by 2, and look who’s on the mound. Mr. Sean Green. One quick out already. Way to go, Sean!! Go prove it to the Ms that we don’t need a Lidge or Farnsworth around for the 8th inning.

By: tetrad

tetrad — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:46:41 +0000

I agree that George Sherrill would be great as a set-up guy. I checked his stats on right-handed hitters so far this season from baseball+reference.com. If I looked at them correctly they are:

BA=.200 / OBP = .195 / SLG = .250 / BA on balls-in-play = .250. Wow!

It would be great to see him get more innings pitched.

By: Colm

Colm — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:23:36 +0000

I don’t think cautious conservatism is invariably a hallmark of successful enterprises. I would certainly not endorse it now, when the Mariners are not being successful enough.

I’m not even that confident about 96 wins being enough to win a berth in the post season. Don’t the Tigers and Indians have a lot of games left against the Royals and the White Sox?

By: JMHawkins

JMHawkins — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:13:44 +0000

With out pitching staff

Ah, #92 should read “with our pitching staff”. Althought “without” might make some sense too, at times.

By: The Ancient Mariner

The Ancient Mariner — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:12:40 +0000

Re #88: So in other words, johnb, in a pennant race, you can only do the things you already know don’t work, because it’s too risky to try something new that might?