Game 91, Orioles at Mariners
Dave · July 17, 2007 at 6:07 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Guthrie vs Hernandez, 7:05 pm.
The same line-up that couldn’t touch Horacio Ramirez last night now gets to deal with King Felix. This should be fun.
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#395 (msb):
You’d think the postgame show would have a screener who’d weed out these type of callers. (Unless their intent is to force the hosts to think on their feet and maintain composure.) Examples of intellingent discourse from callers is few and far between.
That’s why I read USSM.
Dizzle: I think you actually mean what you’re saying, rather than just trying to be a troll, but here’s the thing. If someone in that mold of fan just said “I just love Vidro. I know it’s unlikely that he’ll start posting a better on-base percentage (or whatever), but I just really enjoy watching him” and then cheered when he got a hit or something, I don’t think any of the USSM regulars would be berating them. But it’s never that simple. Said poster ALWAYS either wants to argue about why that player is more valuable than everyone else thinks (although it never seems like they can pull up a bunch of facts to support that argument) or they want to accuse everyone else of not being supportive enough of that player. Yknow?
Anyone who wanted to linger around just saying “I have a soft spot for Willie Bloomquist” or “I like the way Betancourt turns a double play, in spite of those errors” isn’t going to be put in the stocks or something. I don’t necessarily think those comments would add much to the discussion, but neither do most of my idle observations during a game.
Ok. Enough for me. Audi.
SlipperyElmer… if I am coming across as hostile to your point of view… please understand that I am not.
I, for example, liked Joey Cora. Can’t defend it, just did.
In the past I also very vocally rooted for Beltre when he was… let’s say underperforming.
I don’t look down on “your type of fan” at all. I just take exception to being told to “stfu” because I support the team in a different way in a very specific situation.
Some of these guys are so far above my head with their baseball wisdom, that I can’t even understand what they’re saying half the time. I try to, but I don’t always succeed.
To me this whole thing is the exact same thing as a certain type of person calling into question my patriotism for one reason or another. It’s a very low sort of argument that assumes a moral superiority on the part of the patriot/fan, and it is extremely insulting.
Hmmm…good to know Tom Glasgow is still alive. Must be local radio only, since I haven’t seen him on tv in about a million years.
402 Lauren, Yup I’m being serious. Although at first, I thought some of you were being a little hard on Jeff, but I wasn’t aware of the comments he made previous to tonight. Therefore the USSMariner security team has my full support regarding this matter. I see nothing wrong with bashing Vidro for who he really is, an overweight tub of shit who is disguising his ineffectiveness with his batting average. There’s only two Mariners I despise more than Vidro and that is Horacio and Reitsma so I ask that any of you HoRam and Reitsma lovers to just shut the fuck up when it comes time for me to bash them.
Note: That last line was a feeble attempt to mock Jeff. I apologize if I offend anyone with my brash language.
Popping in to lighten the mood: Rowland-Smith was the one who had to wear the Barbie Backpack of Shame yesterday walking from the dugout to the bullpen before the game. But the hazing didn’t seem to bother him as much as it did O’Flaherty….? 🙂
Dave —
Odd time for a first time post, but I hope you don’t decide to turn off comments.
As exasperating as it must be sometimes to see folks come in and stink up the joint, the majority comments and folks posting do add value — especially during the game threads.
And, in a quite ironic way, many of the less informed comments actually illustrate your points extremely well. Nothing like having living, breathing, posting examples to point to.
…Argh.
My posts on this particular topic have gotten more terse, and less polite (I will continue to add the caveat that I’m not a moderator and am just speaking as an extremely frustrated fan of this site).
At this point, it comes down to this:
This site is not the P-I blog. The community here does not want it to be.
If that is the sort of community you want, GO BACK THERE.
What Lauren said in 402. Part of being a baseball fan is having irrational affections for random players (ask me about my Kal Daniels Fan Club membership card). But it’s a big big jump from ‘I like Jose Vidro and cheer every time he’s at the plate’ to ‘Jose Vidro is an asset to the Mariners’. The former will get people to nod sympathetically (again, Kal Daniels fan. Also, how is Eric Karros’ #2 comp at BRef Frank Thomas? Frank Thomas has chunks of guys like Karros in his stool). The latter will get you a deluge of righteous corrections, and they’ll be right and you’ll be wrong.
Well looks like Felix’s inability to get the leadoff batter out finally got him…when you allow the leadoff runner to reach base over and over and over, bad things generally happen. He got lucky with double plays and runners getting thrown out at second, but that wasn’t going to happen all night.