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		<title>By: freighttrain</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-211832</link>
		<dc:creator>freighttrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you fanatics here on USS Mariner, Dave will indeed be on every Friday at 2:20 pm Pacific with Groz.  We love the blog and were anxious to give it its just due.  

If you can&#039;t listen live at 950 KJR, you can catch the live stream at 950kjr.com or the podcast on Groz&#039;s webpage at: 

http://www.950kjr.com/pages/thegrozpage.html

FT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you fanatics here on USS Mariner, Dave will indeed be on every Friday at 2:20 pm Pacific with Groz.  We love the blog and were anxious to give it its just due.  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t listen live at 950 KJR, you can catch the live stream at 950kjr.com or the podcast on Groz&#8217;s webpage at: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.950kjr.com/pages/thegrozpage.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.950kjr.com/pages/thegrozpage.html</a></p>
<p>FT</p>
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		<title>By: Arkinese</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210454</link>
		<dc:creator>Arkinese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job today, Dave!

I&#039;ve always been an anti-fan of Sleeper&#039;s columns; I&#039;m a professional writer and I *know* I can write better than he can. Oftentimes, it&#039;s his content but mostly his tone grates. Glad to see others aren&#039;t impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job today, Dave!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been an anti-fan of Sleeper&#8217;s columns; I&#8217;m a professional writer and I *know* I can write better than he can. Oftentimes, it&#8217;s his content but mostly his tone grates. Glad to see others aren&#8217;t impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidi</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210453</link>
		<dc:creator>Sidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I take it back. He is stranding a lot more this year. Still, a 40% drop sounds like a lot.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, He&#039;s been allowing a very low number of hits, home runs, walks etc.  But even last year you was unbelievably good with the &quot;three true outcomes.&quot;  A 40% drop isn&#039;t huge when you start out with a tiny number to begin with.  I would agree his current hot streak will be nearly impossible to maintain over a full season, let alone multiple seasons, but he doesn&#039;t seem like a massively changed pitcher to me...just a guy who has figured things out and hit the relief pitcher groove.  And that&#039;s something we should be used to in Seattle (see Sasaki, Nelson, Rhodes, et al).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I take it back. He is stranding a lot more this year. Still, a 40% drop sounds like a lot.</i></p>
<p>Yes, He&#8217;s been allowing a very low number of hits, home runs, walks etc.  But even last year you was unbelievably good with the &#8220;three true outcomes.&#8221;  A 40% drop isn&#8217;t huge when you start out with a tiny number to begin with.  I would agree his current hot streak will be nearly impossible to maintain over a full season, let alone multiple seasons, but he doesn&#8217;t seem like a massively changed pitcher to me&#8230;just a guy who has figured things out and hit the relief pitcher groove.  And that&#8217;s something we should be used to in Seattle (see Sasaki, Nelson, Rhodes, et al).</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210450</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize it&#039;s WAAAYYY late in this thread, but since this totally opened up some old wounds, I absolutely couldn&#039;t resist chiming in on the suckitude which was the &#039;97 M&#039;s bullpen.  I&#039;m inclined to agree with Karen in #35 that Varitek AND Lowe for Slo-cumb was arguably the worst trade in Mariner history, but let&#039;s not forget about the two GREAT moves from the year before which helped to precipitate this whole bullpen crisis in the first place:

1:  Tino/Nellie/Mecir&gt;Yanks
    Davis/Hitchcock&gt;M&#039;s
    (Also, arguably the worst trade 
     in M&#039;s history)

2:  Bill Risley&gt;Jays
    Edwin Hurtado&gt;M&#039;s

Apparently, Woody Woodpecker (in all his INFINITE wisdom) had forgotten how valuable Nellie and Risley had been to the M&#039;s during the run of &#039;95 when they were basically going lights-out in the 6th through 8th innings -- so much so, in fact, that he deemed trading both of them (along with Mecir, another set-up prospect who had also had some value at that time) for a broken-down starter prospect who never amounted to anything (Hurtado) and a five-inning-wonder with a bad attitude (Hitchcock) to be justifiable.  (Note:  Not to mention, a blue-chip 1B -- Tino -- who actually WON games for Yanks with his production for an absolute hack 3B -- Davis -- who LOST games for the M&#039;s with his ineptitude, but I&#039;ll save that rant for another post!) The vacuum left in the set-up role, in turn, resulted in the next series of bad moves in &#039;97:

1:  Jose Cruz, Jr.&gt;Jays
    Timlin/Spoljaric&gt;M&#039;s

2:  Varitek/Lowe&gt;Red Sox
    Slocumb&gt;M&#039;s

Out of these three, Timlin was probably the best while in a Mariner uniform...yet, I still seem to recall him crapping his pants a few times in hold/save situations down the stretch in &#039;97.  He did have a fairly decent year as the closer in &#039;98 -- when there WAS anything to save, that is -- but then couldn&#039;t wait to bolt town the minute his contact was up.  Spoljaric I was never impressed with, either, and Slocumb was just plain HORRIBLE the whole time he was here.  Out of the guys we dumped:  one did become a journeyman (Cruz), though Lowe went on to become a 20-game winner and Varitek an All-Star catcher.  The latter two, of course, also wound up with WS rings in &#039;04 for the Red Sox.

Hmmm...would&#039;ve been nice if they could have gotten those WS rings here, though.  Thanks again for the memories, Woody!
&gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize it&#8217;s WAAAYYY late in this thread, but since this totally opened up some old wounds, I absolutely couldn&#8217;t resist chiming in on the suckitude which was the &#8216;97 M&#8217;s bullpen.  I&#8217;m inclined to agree with Karen in #35 that Varitek AND Lowe for Slo-cumb was arguably the worst trade in Mariner history, but let&#8217;s not forget about the two GREAT moves from the year before which helped to precipitate this whole bullpen crisis in the first place:</p>
<p>1:  Tino/Nellie/Mecir&gt;Yanks<br />
    Davis/Hitchcock&gt;M&#8217;s<br />
    (Also, arguably the worst trade<br />
     in M&#8217;s history)</p>
<p>2:  Bill Risley&gt;Jays<br />
    Edwin Hurtado&gt;M&#8217;s</p>
<p>Apparently, Woody Woodpecker (in all his INFINITE wisdom) had forgotten how valuable Nellie and Risley had been to the M&#8217;s during the run of &#8216;95 when they were basically going lights-out in the 6th through 8th innings &#8212; so much so, in fact, that he deemed trading both of them (along with Mecir, another set-up prospect who had also had some value at that time) for a broken-down starter prospect who never amounted to anything (Hurtado) and a five-inning-wonder with a bad attitude (Hitchcock) to be justifiable.  (Note:  Not to mention, a blue-chip 1B &#8212; Tino &#8212; who actually WON games for Yanks with his production for an absolute hack 3B &#8212; Davis &#8212; who LOST games for the M&#8217;s with his ineptitude, but I&#8217;ll save that rant for another post!) The vacuum left in the set-up role, in turn, resulted in the next series of bad moves in &#8216;97:</p>
<p>1:  Jose Cruz, Jr.&gt;Jays<br />
    Timlin/Spoljaric&gt;M&#8217;s</p>
<p>2:  Varitek/Lowe&gt;Red Sox<br />
    Slocumb&gt;M&#8217;s</p>
<p>Out of these three, Timlin was probably the best while in a Mariner uniform&#8230;yet, I still seem to recall him crapping his pants a few times in hold/save situations down the stretch in &#8216;97.  He did have a fairly decent year as the closer in &#8216;98 &#8212; when there WAS anything to save, that is &#8212; but then couldn&#8217;t wait to bolt town the minute his contact was up.  Spoljaric I was never impressed with, either, and Slocumb was just plain HORRIBLE the whole time he was here.  Out of the guys we dumped:  one did become a journeyman (Cruz), though Lowe went on to become a 20-game winner and Varitek an All-Star catcher.  The latter two, of course, also wound up with WS rings in &#8216;04 for the Red Sox.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;would&#8217;ve been nice if they could have gotten those WS rings here, though.  Thanks again for the memories, Woody!<br />
&gt;:(</p>
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		<title>By: rrose</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210430</link>
		<dc:creator>rrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: KJR interview

If this has been posted already, I missed it scrolling through the thread (and apologize for the redundancy), but for those who missed the interview this afternoon, it&#039;s been archived on the KJR website, and you can listen to it there (Groz&#039;s page).

Great job, Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: KJR interview</p>
<p>If this has been posted already, I missed it scrolling through the thread (and apologize for the redundancy), but for those who missed the interview this afternoon, it&#8217;s been archived on the KJR website, and you can listen to it there (Groz&#8217;s page).</p>
<p>Great job, Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: John in L.A.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210415</link>
		<dc:creator>John in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Reposted from game thread, thinking this is the right place for it.)

Dave, you interview was fantastic.

And I’ve never listened to “Griz” before, so I can’t comment on his usual stuff, but today he:

1. Gave you a really great intro.

2. Was very appreciative and treated you very respectfully. That doesn’t, as we know, always happen on sports radio.

So, Dave, fantastic job. I would listen to the DC Hour.

And, Groz, if you’re reading this, I thought you were great, too. And handled all of that intelligently and enthusiastically. So good on you, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Reposted from game thread, thinking this is the right place for it.)</p>
<p>Dave, you interview was fantastic.</p>
<p>And I’ve never listened to “Griz” before, so I can’t comment on his usual stuff, but today he:</p>
<p>1. Gave you a really great intro.</p>
<p>2. Was very appreciative and treated you very respectfully. That doesn’t, as we know, always happen on sports radio.</p>
<p>So, Dave, fantastic job. I would listen to the DC Hour.</p>
<p>And, Groz, if you’re reading this, I thought you were great, too. And handled all of that intelligently and enthusiastically. So good on you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: darrylzero</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210300</link>
		<dc:creator>darrylzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be right about the available talent level; I don&#039;t actually know... just seemed like a possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right about the available talent level; I don&#8217;t actually know&#8230; just seemed like a possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: DAMellen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210287</link>
		<dc:creator>DAMellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it back.  He is stranding a lot more this year.  Still, a 40% drop sounds like a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it back.  He is stranding a lot more this year.  Still, a 40% drop sounds like a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: DAMellen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210282</link>
		<dc:creator>DAMellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ&#039;s allowing 40% less hits and walks this year.  I know you&#039;re not a big fan of WHIP, but that seems like a pretty extreme decrease.  I guess I&#039;m not the expert, but it looks to me like he&#039;s putting less runners on base rather than stranding more.  Do you really think it&#039;s just luck that&#039;s caused him to allow 40% less hits and walks?  That seems like a pretty significant amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ&#8217;s allowing 40% less hits and walks this year.  I know you&#8217;re not a big fan of WHIP, but that seems like a pretty extreme decrease.  I guess I&#8217;m not the expert, but it looks to me like he&#8217;s putting less runners on base rather than stranding more.  Do you really think it&#8217;s just luck that&#8217;s caused him to allow 40% less hits and walks?  That seems like a pretty significant amount.</p>
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		<title>By: MedicineHat</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/07/20/local-daily-roundup/comment-page-5/#comment-210253</link>
		<dc:creator>MedicineHat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an FYI - This interview IS available via podcast...

http://www.kjram.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=groz.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an FYI &#8211; This interview IS available via podcast&#8230;</p>
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