Game 100, A’s at Mariners

Dave · July 26, 2007 at 6:26 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Haren vs Weaver, 7:05 pm.

I don’t have it in me to root for this team tonight. Six straight losses, return of the ridiculous line-up, Ibanez still in left, obvious moves to help the team still not made. Whatever.

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368 Responses to “Game 100, A’s at Mariners”

  1. popsey55 on July 26th, 2007 11:03 pm

    After the recent defense post, I checked into the Out of Zone stat, and Ibanez lead the AL in OOZ plays last year… what gives? is it an accurate stat? is Ichiro that much of a ball hog? Is Ibanez injured?

  2. John in L.A. on July 26th, 2007 11:04 pm

    Also, 343 – Beltre is better in OBP and OPS against RH’s and LH’s… significantly in both cases.

    By 40 or 50 points and righties and 220(!) points against lefties.

  3. Sports on a Schtick on July 26th, 2007 11:04 pm

    If Dave’s cool with it I’d like to post this everyday until it finally happens. It’s my form of civil disobedience because I’m about to break something soon.

    Adam Jones Missing Poster
    http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9315/adamjonesmissingposterpn7.jpg

  4. John in L.A. on July 26th, 2007 11:06 pm

    popsey – there is an exceptionally good entry by Dave about our outfield defense, just a couple posts down on the main page.

    It answers that question and more.

  5. popsey55 on July 26th, 2007 11:08 pm

    348- Im all for Platooning, and all for change, but Dan Haren is a Right Hander and my original post said that I was being optimist towards the GMs knowing what they are doing. I was never trying to doubt anything you said, I’m just an optimistic person, and I’m hoping that the Mariners Coaches/FO know at least as much as people on this site. lol

  6. Paseman on July 26th, 2007 11:09 pm

    348 (John in L.A.) – I believe you meant to say only against RIGHTIES. and 346 – I don’t know if he was hurt but hes hitting for avg., power, and hes stealing bases very well (14/16). His stock is as high as it will be trade wise but I don’t know if we’re better off keeping him and putting him in RF next year instead of Guillen

  7. popsey55 on July 26th, 2007 11:13 pm

    John in LA- Oops, I didnt read the whole article earlier. I thought he was comparing them by OOZ plays, my bad

  8. Paseman on July 26th, 2007 11:14 pm

    We would even be better with Ellison over Ibanez, as he would bring better D and more speed. It’s sad that I just said Jason F’in Ellison should start over our 3 hole hitter

  9. popsey55 on July 26th, 2007 11:17 pm

    thats sad for Ibanez. Jason Ellison? If Ibanez is hurt at all, he needs to come out and say it. Even if he’s not hurt, say it anyways so he can at least have some kind of excuse

  10. John in L.A. on July 26th, 2007 11:18 pm

    355 – Shockingly, I am a very optimistic person. Just not, these days, about my Mariners or my beloved Miami Dolphins.

    It was a sad day when I realized that, although there are a thousand intricacies of the game and the business about which they know more than me… I came to realize that they really DON’T know more about a lot of things related to strategy and personnel.

    They just don’t.

    And I watched my favorite teams in two sports freaking implode in a series of bad decisions that were very, very often foreseeable and avoidable.

    There is not a doubt in my mind that the operators (and some posters) are thinking at a higher level than our manager and GM on some SPECIFIC aspects of the game. They have a lot more on their plate, and all of them are better at some things than others.

    I mean, all you need to learn everything you need to know about coach or gm fallibility is to look at Dave Wannestadt. Or pick a dozen others…

  11. Paseman on July 26th, 2007 11:21 pm

    Even a casual fan would notice that something is wrong, and anyone with knowledge of Adam Jones would MOST LIKELY do very in the majors, and at the least would be an improvement over Raul in Left. Sadly, the FO either doesn’t see that or won’t do anything about it, which is why my optomism is waning…

  12. popsey55 on July 26th, 2007 11:28 pm

    Did you guys check out the Firstinning article on Adam Jones I posted the other day?

    http://firstinning.com/content/200707142

    It compares players Isolated power from players under 22 in AAA over the past ten years. Adam Jones ranks right up their with Konerko and Fielder in terms of ISOP, ranks ahead of Aramis and Vernon! Scary

  13. Paseman on July 26th, 2007 11:31 pm

    Which is why he should be batting #3 for Seattle instead of Tacoma…

  14. Tom on July 26th, 2007 11:54 pm

    #363: And also why the Mariners don’t need to extend Jose Guillen’s contract, we have a #4 hitter for the next 10 years in Adam Jones rather than a power hitter for the next 3 years like Jose Guillen would be if the M’s extended him.

  15. jase411 on July 27th, 2007 3:37 am

    We are all asking for Jones to come up I-5, but are we even sure he wants to?? With the current condition of the Mariners offense and the fact he can only fill 1 of the numerous slumping/poor lineup spots with a likely improvement, I can see him saying “no Bill, I don’t want to play for that team”. Hes probably praying to be a future Marlin…………. Heaven forbid..!

  16. scott19 on July 27th, 2007 4:20 am

    345: The appropriate response to that question, of course, should be “no one in their right mind.”

    Aside from Drayer’s inside reports/interviews, that post-game show has largely sucked ever since New York Vinnie stopped doing it when they went over to KOMO.

  17. msb on July 27th, 2007 7:19 am

    post-game last night was Pitman & Valle, not the leading lights of the KOMO staff … but New York Vinnie?? that pillar of impartiality?

  18. sodomojojojo on July 27th, 2007 8:56 am

    Was at the game last nite, a few random observations:

    There was a guy a couple of sections away yelling at Richie every time he was up (“.207 you call that a batting average? how about .206 now?…”) He was kinda funny.

    There was some Ra*l booing as stated earlier. I had a sign that I’m sure he saw as I was along the 3rd base side that said “Adam Jones’ mom called & she wants her fries delivered to Safeco soon! FREE ADAM JONES” Ra*l took a longer route out to left after that. Pretty sure Blow saw it as well.We also had a “Cult of Doyle 4ever” sign. Needless to say we spect a little time explaining those, but well worth the effort.

    Once they put in Reitsma, the consensus was were would be throwing the game away with both hands. But really chaps my hide was all the blame laid on George Sherrill for the homerun, he wouldn’t have been in the predicament if Chris hadn’t already walked those 2 guys beforehand.

    PS Travis Buck’s “up nopw” picture on the big screen just screams “I wanna party with this dude!”

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