Comments on: Track Records

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:20:50 +0000

He’s 24 years old. He has no power. He doesn’t have a good approach at the plate. He’s slow. He’s a contact hitter who generates what little offense he can by hitting the ball into holes, and based on his .250 career minor league average, he’s not particularly good at that either.

The guy just doesn’t have major league skills. The Mariners love him because of his personality, but as a baseball player, he’s a Double-A guy.

By: baller

baller — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:10:17 +0000

dave, you have some personal issue towards Johnson? his bat is developing, especially for a dude that has half of the career at bats compared to most of his team mates. Defensively he is solid. strong leader. Periodically you admit that you have to eat your words, will this be another one of those instances in a few years?

By: bram

bram — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:53:54 +0000

Gosh, John in L.A., in #75 you’ve got me completely confused.

Help me understand –

Is wading through all the pissing and moaning therapeutic for you?

Did I miss your name on the masthead somewhere?

Or are you the only comment poster allowed to comment on the character of the conversation?

Which is it, John? I’d like to know before I run afoul of your arbitration again.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:29:39 +0000

The same is true of expensive guys. If throwing a bunch of money (or talent in trade) at someone doesn’t significantly increase your chance of getting a good pitcher, then you shouldn’t do it. That’s the whole point.

By: Seth

Seth — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:50:48 +0000

Doesn’t all this perhaps indicate that pitcher performance is extremely volatile from year to year? I mean, you tell me that we could get a guy who’s never had any success for practically free, but you have to be able to determine WHICH guy who’s never had any success.

The earth is littered with pitchers who’ve put together a solid year or couple of months and then disappeared (Dave Fleming, Bob Wolcott, Paul Abbott, etc).

So, I mean, it’s all well and good to say that you COULD get a guy for cheap, but if you can’t predict with any certainty who the cheap guy will be (after all, you can’t sign everybody), what’s the point…

By: davepaisley

davepaisley — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:59:02 +0000

85, it’s actually Gro”S”by, but he goes by Groz.

By: thefin190

thefin190 — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:29:03 +0000

64 – good point man.

By: dingla

dingla — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:23:45 +0000

Thanks Egass! ;^)

By: manzell

manzell — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:13:31 +0000

It sounds like the ‘real’ solution is to stockpile young starting pitchers.

Imagine if we’d traded Pineiro or Meche when they first came up (okay, second time around for Meche). Or Dave Fleming, for that matter. What could they have gotten?

But yeah, you’ve gotta get SOMETHING from your farm – either players, or trade pieces. The Mariners of late have seemed to be content to use it as a holding grounds for their roster overages.

By: Mr. Egaas

Mr. Egaas — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 03:59:01 +0000

87. As mentioned before: http://950kjr.com/pages/thegrozpage.html