Comments on: Jones and role-playing http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ralph_Malph http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-218196 Ralph_Malph Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:45:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-218196 You can't send Richie or Raul to the minor leagues. Quit suggesting it, it's impossible. You can’t send Richie or Raul to the minor leagues. Quit suggesting it, it’s impossible.

]]> By: Chris Miller http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-218147 Chris Miller Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:30:56 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-218147 Hmmmmm .... Jones and role-playing made me think: Morse (GM): "Roll d20 to see if you catch the ball" Jones: Rolls .. "Sweet, I caught it" Ibanez: "Wow, even with that roll, I wouldn't have caught it. At least I can hit the ball!" Jones: "What?! No you can't! Your character sucks." Ibanez: Sighs. WFB: "Is it my roll yet, is it my roll yet, is it my roll yet" Hmmmmm …. Jones and role-playing made me think:

Morse (GM): “Roll d20 to see if you catch the ball”

Jones: Rolls .. “Sweet, I caught it”

Ibanez: “Wow, even with that roll, I wouldn’t have caught it. At least I can hit the ball!”

Jones: “What?! No you can’t! Your character sucks.”

Ibanez: Sighs.

WFB: “Is it my roll yet, is it my roll yet, is it my roll yet”

]]> By: Wishhiker http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-217718 Wishhiker Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:53:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217718 Oops, forgot to finish researching the RHP run that includes the next four opponent starters before a TBD for the Orioles on Thurs(Probably LH Burres, who's pitching today.) I'd say it's a good time to send Richie down... Oops, forgot to finish researching the RHP run that includes the next four opponent starters before a TBD for the Orioles on Thurs(Probably LH Burres, who’s pitching today.) I’d say it’s a good time to send Richie down…

]]> By: Wishhiker http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-217711 Wishhiker Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:41:07 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217711 I totally agree that we need to wait and see with AJ's playing time. If anything, Ibanez in Right and Broussard at First, not Broussard in Right and Vidro at First... When making changes to a team/lineup, in order to improve your chances, the best place to start is figuring out what the largest single improvement you can get at one position is. Vidro at 2nd isn't an improvement. A reason not mentioned is when you talk about Yuni's (not so recent) and Lopez' struggles, it's about a young player still adjusting to MLB and they're being payed as if that's the case. Sexson's money isn't a factor in it unless he can be traded. But the largest improvement that I can see the team making would be playing Broussard at 1B against RHP. I think it's to that point that Sexson should be sent down for a bit, maybe while a run of RHP Vidro at second doesn't make as much sense as putting a good bat at 1B. If Sexson and Broussard were both to be gone after this year, would you think of moving Clement or Wlad to 1B? I really like the idea of having 2-4 people on the team capable of stealing 10+ bases and Hitting 10+ HR. I'd put Ichiro, AJ, Kenji and Wlad on that list. More speed is good, but maybe I'm trying too hard to fit Wlad onto the 'imaginary' roster for next season. It's been said quite a bit that there's just no spot for him on this team. Clement is probably better off staying behind the plate unless he plateu's defensively, so what do you think the chances/worth are of moving Wlad to 1B. He's got a corner bat with speed and won't forget how to play the OF corners just by picking up 1B. Additionally do you see either Wlad or Clement as a good possible for DH going into next year? I don't expect Wlad to be a 40-40 guy or anything, but I was glad he was still here after the deadline... I totally agree that we need to wait and see with AJ’s playing time.

If anything, Ibanez in Right and Broussard at First, not Broussard in Right and Vidro at First…

When making changes to a team/lineup, in order to improve your chances, the best place to start is figuring out what the largest single improvement you can get at one position is. Vidro at 2nd isn’t an improvement. A reason not mentioned is when you talk about Yuni’s (not so recent) and Lopez’ struggles, it’s about a young player still adjusting to MLB and they’re being payed as if that’s the case. Sexson’s money isn’t a factor in it unless he can be traded. But the largest improvement that I can see the team making would be playing Broussard at 1B against RHP. I think it’s to that point that Sexson should be sent down for a bit, maybe while a run of RHP

Vidro at second doesn’t make as much sense as putting a good bat at 1B. If Sexson and Broussard were both to be gone after this year, would you think of moving Clement or Wlad to 1B? I really like the idea of having 2-4 people on the team capable of stealing 10+ bases and Hitting 10+ HR. I’d put Ichiro, AJ, Kenji and Wlad on that list. More speed is good, but maybe I’m trying too hard to fit Wlad onto the ‘imaginary’ roster for next season. It’s been said quite a bit that there’s just no spot for him on this team. Clement is probably better off staying behind the plate unless he plateu’s defensively, so what do you think the chances/worth are of moving Wlad to 1B. He’s got a corner bat with speed and won’t forget how to play the OF corners just by picking up 1B. Additionally do you see either Wlad or Clement as a good possible for DH going into next year?

I don’t expect Wlad to be a 40-40 guy or anything, but I was glad he was still here after the deadline…

]]> By: thefin190 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-217709 thefin190 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:38:21 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217709 44 - a $14 million a year minor leaguer?!? :O could break a record. 44 – a $14 million a year minor leaguer?!? :O could break a record.

]]> By: Notor http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-217702 Notor Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:38:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217702 I wish McLaren had brought in Broussard after Sexson's first AB last night, mostly because Richie was -clearly- shaken by the fans booing him and he had absolutely no confidence at the plate because of it. There was just no way you could've expected him to contribute anymore that night, and he didn't. He let meat pitches just go right on by and whiffed at terrible ones, and not just missing by a little bit either. Several times he missed by like 3 feet! That should not happen in the major leagues. I don't care who's pitching, nobody is that deceptive in their placement. Richie needs to sit for the rest of the homestand, that's for sure. And if he continues playing this poorly in Baltimore, he needs to be sent down to Tacoma to work this out with the pressure off of him. I wish McLaren had brought in Broussard after Sexson’s first AB last night, mostly because Richie was -clearly- shaken by the fans booing him and he had absolutely no confidence at the plate because of it. There was just no way you could’ve expected him to contribute anymore that night, and he didn’t. He let meat pitches just go right on by and whiffed at terrible ones, and not just missing by a little bit either. Several times he missed by like 3 feet! That should not happen in the major leagues. I don’t care who’s pitching, nobody is that deceptive in their placement.

Richie needs to sit for the rest of the homestand, that’s for sure. And if he continues playing this poorly in Baltimore, he needs to be sent down to Tacoma to work this out with the pressure off of him.

]]> By: argh http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-2/#comment-217701 argh Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:33:22 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217701 What are the conditions that trigger the beginning of Adam Jones 5 year pre-free agent period and how are those years counted up? The reason I ask (other than that googling didn't give me an answer) is that I wonder at what point having Jones sitting on the bench for internal team political reasons starts to burn up those extremely valuable 5 years. Or has the 5 years already started with last year's September call up? What are the conditions that trigger the beginning of Adam Jones 5 year pre-free agent period and how are those years counted up? The reason I ask (other than that googling didn’t give me an answer) is that I wonder at what point having Jones sitting on the bench for internal team political reasons starts to burn up those extremely valuable 5 years. Or has the 5 years already started with last year’s September call up?

]]> By: Bearman http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-1/#comment-217700 Bearman Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:31:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217700 I agree with 47 Broussard is a corner INFer not a OFer however he will suriffice in an emergency if a injury happens but that's all. Broussard's value is as a 1stBman platoon with Sexson and as a LHB PHing off the bench. However Jones's playing CF so Ichiro can DH and rest between innings says something and tells me McClaren will FIND playing time for him. Just as he did with Broussard and others etc....... I agree with 47 Broussard is a corner INFer not a OFer however he will suriffice in an emergency if a injury happens but that’s all.
Broussard’s value is as a 1stBman platoon with Sexson and as a LHB PHing off the bench.

However Jones’s playing CF so Ichiro can DH and rest between innings says something and tells me McClaren will FIND playing time for him.
Just as he did with Broussard and others etc…….

]]> By: VaughnStreet http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-1/#comment-217699 VaughnStreet Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:24:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217699 44 - What makes you think Richie could even hit minor league pitching? 44 – What makes you think Richie could even hit minor league pitching?

]]> By: JeffS http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/comment-page-1/#comment-217698 JeffS Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:01:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/04/jones-and-role-playing/#comment-217698 er, it should've said "lets face it" in my previous post. er, it should’ve said “lets face it” in my previous post.

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