Comments on: Game 123, Mariners at Twins http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:32:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lauren, token chick http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227166 Lauren, token chick Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:36:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227166 P.S.: The extremely comprehensive Wikipedia page discusses varying scholastic opinions on whether Luther in his later life was opposed to Jews' religion or their race. It seems there are viable arguments for both. P.S.: The extremely comprehensive Wikipedia page discusses varying scholastic opinions on whether Luther in his later life was opposed to Jews’ religion or their race. It seems there are viable arguments for both.

]]> By: Lauren, token chick http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227159 Lauren, token chick Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:31:51 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227159 Joser: Yeah, I saw the book cited in a number of places. Obviously I didn't check to make sure that the site owner didn't adulterate the text with alien references, but it looks like the real thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_their_Lies Ancient M: Yes, those pages are quite a compendium of "harsh things." It seems a bit like splitting hairs to say he wasn't an anti-Semite. At least in the sense that word has come to be used today. But I'll bow to your presumed expertise... Joser: Yeah, I saw the book cited in a number of places. Obviously I didn’t check to make sure that the site owner didn’t adulterate the text with alien references, but it looks like the real thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_their_Lies

Ancient M: Yes, those pages are quite a compendium of “harsh things.” It seems a bit like splitting hairs to say he wasn’t an anti-Semite. At least in the sense that word has come to be used today. But I’ll bow to your presumed expertise…

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227126 joser Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:01:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227126 Also, game thread is up. Also, game thread is up.

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227124 joser Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:00:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227124 Uh, Lauren, before you go taking anything on that site as (ahem) gospel, you might look at <a href="http://www.awitness.org/" rel="nofollow">what else</a> is on there. I'm not sure who Brent Herbert of 119 lochrie cres, Saskatoon, is (other than the owner/admin of the site) but <a href="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/306700.shtml" rel="nofollow">here</a> presumably the same guy writes "On the story page linked to above I discuss the luminescent craft I witnessed at Banff National Park when I was fifteen, and then a few months later I received my driver's licence.... You will notice the '6 6 6' on the licence number." I'm not saying Luther didn't write what page claims he wrote, or wasn't an anti-semite (which afterall was pretty much the default attitude at the time); I'm just saying I'd look for a more authoritative citation. Anybody can have a webpage, and most nutcases do. Uh, Lauren, before you go taking anything on that site as (ahem) gospel, you might look at what else is on there.

I’m not sure who Brent Herbert of 119 lochrie cres, Saskatoon, is (other than the owner/admin of the site) but here presumably the same guy writes “On the story page linked to above I discuss the luminescent craft I witnessed at Banff National Park when I was fifteen, and then a few months later I received my driver’s licence…. You will notice the ‘6 6 6′ on the licence number.”

I’m not saying Luther didn’t write what page claims he wrote, or wasn’t an anti-semite (which afterall was pretty much the default attitude at the time); I’m just saying I’d look for a more authoritative citation. Anybody can have a webpage, and most nutcases do.

]]> By: The Ancient Mariner http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227122 The Ancient Mariner Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:57:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227122 Actually, it's a bit simplistic to call Luther an anti-Semite; later in his career, he said some very harsh things against the Jews, but it wasn't actually anti-Semitism that motivated him, it was other things. Which is a conversation for somewhere else, because it would take a while to explain (that period, as it happens, <i>is</i> my period of study) . . . . . . and coming back on topic, Dan W, I certainly realize that the ump could have done a number of different things. I just notice that umps generally don't call the rules as written, but according to a set of unwritten emendations, of which the "phantom tag" is usually one; but if the "phantom tag" is going to be allowed, then to call interference strictly would give the fielders an unfair advantage. As such, I suspect that in cases where the middle infielder is trying to turn a phantom DP, there's a pretty strong tendency to let the runner go beyond the letter of the rulebook to try to break it up. As there should be, really -- either hold both sides to the letter or neither, but don't play favorites. Actually, it’s a bit simplistic to call Luther an anti-Semite; later in his career, he said some very harsh things against the Jews, but it wasn’t actually anti-Semitism that motivated him, it was other things. Which is a conversation for somewhere else, because it would take a while to explain (that period, as it happens, is my period of study) . . .

. . . and coming back on topic, Dan W, I certainly realize that the ump could have done a number of different things. I just notice that umps generally don’t call the rules as written, but according to a set of unwritten emendations, of which the “phantom tag” is usually one; but if the “phantom tag” is going to be allowed, then to call interference strictly would give the fielders an unfair advantage. As such, I suspect that in cases where the middle infielder is trying to turn a phantom DP, there’s a pretty strong tendency to let the runner go beyond the letter of the rulebook to try to break it up. As there should be, really — either hold both sides to the letter or neither, but don’t play favorites.

]]> By: Mike Honcho http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227120 Mike Honcho Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:47:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227120 <i>Bloomquist @ 2nd, Broussard @ DH for today’s game</i> Mac playing the "hot streak" w/Sexson again. Bloomquist @ 2nd, Broussard @ DH for today’s game

Mac playing the “hot streak” w/Sexson again.

]]> By: davepaisley http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227119 davepaisley Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:40:12 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227119 No Burke on a day game after a night game? Even Mauer gets a few games at DH. Even when he's trying, McLaren can't buy a clue. No Burke on a day game after a night game? Even Mauer gets a few games at DH.

Even when he’s trying, McLaren can’t buy a clue.

]]> By: Lauren, token chick http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227118 Lauren, token chick Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:36:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227118 As always, I heart you guys. One Lutheran comment and a whole discussion resulting. The skull thing (nice imagery!) caused me to hunt around the web and find this: http://www.awitness.org/books/luther/ DAMN. I had no idea Luther was such a raving anti-Semite. Not that I know that much about him... he's a bit after my period of study. As always, I heart you guys. One Lutheran comment and a whole discussion resulting. The skull thing (nice imagery!) caused me to hunt around the web and find this:

http://www.awitness.org/books/luther/

DAMN. I had no idea Luther was such a raving anti-Semite. Not that I know that much about him… he’s a bit after my period of study.

]]> By: lailaihei http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227117 lailaihei Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:36:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227117 Broussard moved to first and Burke catching plz so we can have a killer B infield >_> Broussard moved to first and Burke catching plz so we can have a killer B infield >_>

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/comment-page-7/#comment-227116 joser Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:33:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/21/game-123-mariners-at-twins-2/#comment-227116 In the aftergame MacLaren said he was going to "give the regulars some rest" so that's not unexpected. We may even see it during the Texas games (given the way the heat and humidity can sap you, I should certainly hope so). But Joh is playing? In the aftergame MacLaren said he was going to “give the regulars some rest” so that’s not unexpected. We may even see it during the Texas games (given the way the heat and humidity can sap you, I should certainly hope so). But Joh is playing?

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