Game 137, Mariners at Yankees
DMZ · September 4, 2007 at 3:45 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
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Ramirez versus Wang. KSTW. 4:05 our time.
M’s run out the Broussard variant of the standard lineup.
The Yankees lineup’s pretty weird, too, now that I look at it.
CF-B Cabrera (.298/.347/.428)
SS-R Jeter (.322/.392/.429)
RF-L Abreu (.282/.364/.440)
3B-R Rodriguez (.308/.415/.634)
C-B Posada (.331/.412/.527)
LF-L Matsui (.298/.368/.503)
DH-R Duncan (small sample)
2B-L Cano (.298/.347/.483)
1B-B Betemit (small sample)
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I have a Bad feeling about this game, of course i have a bad feeling in any game where HoRam is pitching. Anyone else?
I have a Bad feeling about this game, of course i have a bad feeling in any game where HoRam is pitching. Anyone else?
I have a great feeling about this game. A great feeling that I’ll be drunk long before it’s over.
I kind of liked the earlier prediction of how the pitching will turn out.
HoRam 2.1 innings, Rowland-Smith 5.0 innings, Parrish 0.0, White 0.0, O’Face 0.2.
Plus Wang will probably shut out the Mariners.
This game is pretty hopeless.
The money line for it is something like -265 for the Yankees.
So if you want to bet on the Yankees and win $100, you have to wager $265.
Good news is we get to type Wang all day long and laugh about it every time. I am with #2 on this game.
I get the same feeling when Ho pitches for the M’s as when Vlad bats against the M’s.
“I must be looking pretty cool right now.”
Yeah, Ichiro, that’s right.
The Ichiro interview with Brad Adam on the pre-game show was interesting. Brad’s asking if 200 hits is his goal for the season, Ichiro says he will keep trying for it until he gets chubby. Brad then asks what happens when he gets chubby, Ichiro says he might retire. Brad comes back with “Or become a pitcher?” to which Ichiro responds in English “DH”.
8. I love that man.
8 – Ichiro is sweet. I think he should convert to a Power-hitter once that happens.
Oh my god. Was that ad on channel 11 real? The one about the Muslim Exchange Student sitcom?
“They thought they were getting a _regular_ exchange student… but they got a potential terrorist instead! Watch the hijinks ensue as a wholesome American family has to live with someone from the middle east!”
Please tell me this is some kind of avant-garde meta-sitcom. Like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I‘m_Home!
It’s interesting, too, that Ichiro doesn’t wait for an interpreted question – he clearly understands exactly what Adam was saying, for instance – but still pretty much won’t speak English for interview or recording purposes except in the most unusual of circumstances.
Too bad i’ll be at work, i won’t be able to participate in the chat. :/ Anyway i can view it afterwards?
Balanced lineup for the Yankees – 3 RH, 3 LH, 3 switch. I wish we had that.
DMZ gotta love plausible deniability.
And now the fun begins.
I’m not confident in this one. I think we have a better chance of Wang screwing up and winning 12-10 than Ramirez shutting down and winning 4-2.
Any bets on HoRam’s final tally?
My edumacated guess: 4 1/3 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K.
And that’ being pretty kind to Horammy.
I’m just going to hope that yesterday was the start of an improbable ten game winning streak to make up for the disaster that was the end of August/beginning of September.
How about the grouping on those groundouts, eh?
#18
My bet for the HoRammit-dammit extravaganza final tally would be:
5 1/3 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 3K
Nice “out pitch” on Jeter, Mr. Ramirez.
Abreu will outwait anybody. He’s the one that I expect to break the dam open.
Aand it starts.
Could Jones have caught that?
So what’s he do on the 2nd pitch? Yeah, a double. So much for waiting on HoRam.
Ho Ram looks incredibly hitable. Not that that’s a surprise. It’s just a matter of time until the Hit-Fest begins. Ho Ram doesn’t make it through four.
If I were a Yankees fan (Goddess protect me), I’d be driven crazy by Jeter in the #2 spot instead of the #1 year after year so that lesser players can take ABs away from him.
16 Outs total (5 ground outs, 6 fly outs, 3 strike outs, 2 pop fouls), 7 line drives for hits, 3 walks, 3 ground balls for hits.
#24
Aand it ends.
Where’s Bud when we need him? He could call it a tie and we could save three hours of either seeing, or anticipating, disaster.
hey – name all the mariners you can in the following picture (no cheating looking up numbers):
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/1288510894_93ba2d96f8_b.jpg
Starting with Griffey and moving right, I think next to him is Dave Fleming, the tall scowling gentleman i think is Jeff Nelson (also a Metro-league high school basketball referee if I recall), #11 is obviously Edgar, and Brian Holman has his jersey facing us. The next guy, I’m pretty sure (with the “hey who’s taking the picture?” look) is Erik Hanson.
Who are the rest of those guys?
Raul 1, USSM doubters 0
What the fuck is your problem? Do you think there are people hoping Raul screws up so they can mock him?
Yankees announcer roughly quoted.
“You really have to give it to the Yankees. With the amount of revenue sharing they have given to the other teams, giving those cities a chance.”
Ya, thanks for being able to out bid anyone for talent 100% of the time. What a bunch of team players…
30: I didn’t realize a single counted as a run.
Brad Pitt?
I’m guessing the year is ‘89, since Seafirst has yet to become BoA and GTE is still GTE.
DMZ, wait… That’s not what we are doing here?
Brad Pitt is a true American.
If Joh had stopped on the line there, giving Raul time to touch home, would the run have counted…since he didn’t go for the “force” out?
Hope you all saw Brad Pitt in the stands. He might want to adopt Rick White or John Parrish.
I hope somebody at least hits a fly ball tonight.
I think the guy next to Griffey is Henry Cotto. And maybe Scott Bankhead?
Hmm, well a quick trip to google answered that question. That seemed like it would have been a pretty serious loophole if it was legal anyway.
Oh, because he has 7 children* and he is teaching them about America’s national pasttime.
*If I scanned the cover of People magazine correctly yesterday while shopping.
38 – yes, on a tag play. But if Jo had stopped say half-way down the line, Betemit would have just turned and stepped on the bag, eliminating the timing play.
32 Hey, now, no need to resort to profanity. This is a classy blog.
Actually, I do think there is a certain percentage of the people who post to this blog who actually lament when players they don’t want to get playing time have good games. I’ve read this blog regularly for months, and I can’t even tell you how many times someone has said, “Oh great, because Raul/Richie/whoever got that key hit, we’re probably consigned to two more weeks of him starting.”
Go back and look in the archive. It’s all over the place. And you can’t tell me all those people are being saracastic.
Maybe now that we’re in a pennant race and every at-bat matters, people have changed their minds. But people have pined for AJ for so long, methinks it’s a hard habit to break.
I thought the guy next to Griffey might be Rich DeLucia. But Cotto had himself a sweet ’stache as well.
Someone mentioned on the ealier post that Reed was a bust. I guess that holds true for someone (REED) who led all of AAA (PCL and Int’l league) with 169 hits this year.
HoRam approved.
#30
I think most people here want to See Jones in LF and Raul at DH with Vidro to the bench, so Raul getting a hit doesn’t change anything.
Man gameday had that pitch RIGHT down the middle, what the hell does it take to prove that Ho-Ram, you know, sucks.
MEATBALLLLLLLLLLLL……. That was a tasty pitch, nicely done HoRam. DAMNIT!!!
So the girl I meet at the bar on Sat calls me and the M’s give up a HR. If it was anyone but HoRam I would consider it an omen and never talk to her, thanks for sucking Ramirez!
On a much lighter note, this Duncan guy’s picture on Gameday is really funny looking.
Duncan’s picture looks like the evil zombie version of Jesse Litsch.
48- Would you compare it to the Kinsler HR?
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/story/2007/8/26/22723/6003
In these close up shots of HoRam.. it looks like hes wearing eyeliner.
I noticed after Cano got that hit off Ho-Ram, the Yankees P.A. played a snippet from that Pearl Jam song with the chorus, “can’t find a better man”… was that a simple nod to Seattle or a rhetorical question for our GM?
54 not sure their intentions, but freaking hilarious either way.
54 I don’t think most people in New York even know where Seattle is, let alone know anything about the past and present music scene.
I’m almost positive reality3 is Jeremy Reed.
“A better man”? I always thought that lyric was “The Butter Man”. I never could figure out what it meant.
I was thinking Cotto for the ’stache guy, but I suspect that’s a coach. I remember Cotto being darker. I think Bankhead is right on for #46 next to Edgar.
As for what year the picture was taken, i’ll give everyone a hint: there is something distinct about the uniform that pegs it to a particular (important) date in Mariner’s history.
So how bout them seahawks??? you guys excited for opening day? i dont get to go this year cuz im in arizona but i get to see them opening day in cardinals stadium
It’s definitely not Cotto behind Griffey. Could be DeLucia or maybe a backup catcher?
59 I’m still looking for a picture of Rich Delucia, who I like for Mr. Moustache.
HoRam,
Great inning.
Thanks,
m’s fans
re:54 Perhaps it’s because the way Eddie sings “better man” almost sounds like Betemit. He follows Cano.
DMZ, are you gonna publish my response to your personal attack, or just let it go unanswered? That seems a little… small.
arod pulled a raul
Only 5 hits through 3 innings for HoRam. He’s dealin’ tonight!
DMZ, are you gonna publish my response to your personal attack, or just let it go unanswered? That seems a little… small.
Yes, I am at your beck and call continually moderating game thread comments so that they appear in real time, in the hopes that they’re somehow not interpreted as “small” or “petty”. Forgive me for being several minutes late on that one.
Can somebody take a pitch please? Make Wang Work!
Writing that second sentence made me laugh.
#75
Viagra would like to sponsor your last comment.
Ouch. Nice pitch.
I wonder if Wang feels all rubbery after a night of work?
I’m almost positive reality3 is Jeremy Reed.
Maybe Adam Jones has a laptop he uses to amuse himself on the bench, and he let Reed use it when they called him up.
w/r/t your point though: you’re still full of shit. There’s no huge group of fans, as you claim, wishing for players to fail. Even people who’ve said they want the M’s to tank so McLaren/Bavasi aren’t around next year are torn up about it.
I wish Jones were playing. Many people wish Jones were playing. No one ever wants Raul to GIDP in a game-winning situation. Even people who lament a single might win Ibanez more PT are complaining about management, not Ibanez.
I don’t know where this perception – and you’re not the only person to hold it – that USSM authors or commentors root against the team, or against players – comes from. Even Bloomquist, everyone’s generally pretty consistent about acknowledging the issue is how he’s used, not what he does.
Wang so far: 9 groundball outs, 1 K, 2 flyballs. Dude is dealing.
Is Wang really pitching that good. “Watching” on Gameday makes him look pretty good. He’s averaging 10 pitches per inning — or are the Ms just swinging at everything?
Raul 1, Imaginary USSM Doubters 1. A new ballgame!
Hey, don’t make so much fun of Wang, his name isn’t that bad. At a recent photo shoot for a sorority bid day we did photos for a girl with the last name Takeashita. In writing we assumed it was a joke…but it wasn’t.
It’s pronounced “wong.”
Extra points for anyone who has ever read Dan Clowes’ “Pussey” and gets this joke.
#85
Don’t care how it’s spelled. Wang Wang Wang!!!
I went to school with a guy named Tobia Halter the kids were relentless.
I think maybe Ramirez is trying to double the pitch count that Wang is posting.
Or pronounced, I mean.
Fair enough. I concede the point.
I know that everyone here wants the Ms to do well, or they wouldn’t be reading/posting. So we’ll put this one to bed.
But wait,… Rick White–here’s a guy it’s hard to root for
I was just joking. I agree that the comedy potential is far to great to ignore by pronouncing it correctly.
HoRam,
You’re making me nervous now. Where did this come from?
Thanks,
M’s fans
Nice tag, Jose!
gotta love Edgar’s partial mustache.
and up by the diamond vision,
“Northwest Joint Services”?
Right on DMZ! It’s precisely because we care so much and want this team to win so badly that we feel it’s necessary to criticize the way the team is run, especially when there are obvious improvements that can be made. I’m a fan of Raul, but the team, we fans and Raul himself would be better served if he played out the string as our DH while a superior fielder like Jones takes over leftfield. If McLaren can’t figure that out (or that Rick White is not an answer to any question he should be asking), then we certainly aren’t doing the team a service by keeping our mouths shut.
*sigh*
The level of wit around USS Mariner is usually higher than this (come on…haven’t you folks gone to school with some Asian people before?)
heh heh. Roger. heh heh.
The level of wit around USS Mariner is usually higher than this (come on…haven’t you folks gone to school with some Asian people before?)
What do you expect from a bunch of people who spent a long stretch of time following a man named Randy Johnson…not to mention the “little unit”?
95- You are just saying that cause you have wang in your name. I watched 16 Candles, does that count?
Chavez thinks he has fixed Ramiez, getting more sink on his ball and slowing down his change-up. So far, so good.
Damn it, if this game stays close Rick White might show up.
Anyone wanna bet Mac has Kenji bunt?
99- Right on time Chavez! End of August is when all pitching problems should be fixed. Shouldn’t that get Chavez fired?
Is there any doubt?
A BB from BB Woo Hooo!!! (Sorry I couldn’t resist)
Looks like the Wang is losing his control.
I actually wouldn’t mind a bunt here. The way Wang is pitching, he’s likely to induce the GIDP otherwise
“Now Wang, this is a private club, so don’t tell anyone you’re Jewish, OK? Alright…”
106- Good point.
Patience Kenji! For once in your career!
Carlos Garcia is an idiot.
Why. WHY?
He missed the tag!
By a MILE – TWO MILES!! ^#(@^%*
Was Beltre waved in? If so, that was dumb.
Johjima vs Wang here…. would bunting be absolutely crazy?
Garcia must have thought Damon was still in left field
there are times I hate Carlos Garcia.
With no outs, that was uncalled for.
AHHHHHHHGGHHHH!
And waved in!@
Wow – horrible base running. If that was a send by the coach, horrible call.
He shouldn’t have gone, but Matsui really did make a hell of a throw.
Damn it. No outs, leave them loaded Garcia.
Garcia should have tomatoes tossed at him for that decision….
Nevermind, got the tag…at first it looked to me like he swung his arm and missed, but it was kicked.
I honestly think Garcia is dumber than Mac.
Thanks Garcia, Thanks…
Are you fucking kidding me??? Hard hit right at the LF, try not getting someone out at home every chance you get!
Nice play by Posada, as well. Short hop with a catcher’s blove is pretty slick.
AUGH!! Why in the hell did they send Beltre? He didn’t have a snowball’s chance on that hit. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Great DP to finish off our likely best chance at doing some damage. DUMB.
For those watching, was it even a close play at the plate?
Posada made a hell of a catch. He received it on a short hop, with pace on it.
Well that inning was a bag of garbage. Thank you, 3rd base coach. Instead of having bases loaded and 0 outs. You have an out at home and a double play. Great job!
Un. Fucking. Real.
Please tell me Gamecast is lying to me.
Good god. Matsui was so shallow when he got to that ball… dumb DUMB send. And then the double-play topper… I think my remote control is wedged into some drywall somewhere here.
F-IN LOPEZ!!!! Go find another job you freakin’ bum.
Ok, I have to respect anyone who has The Who as their intro music. Especially one of their best songs.
Not really close. Had JP bobbled it, then it would have been close. But JP was waiting for him.
Was it just me or did USSM crash for a moment after the debacle that ended that last inning? A collective post by everyone at the same time perhaps?
sadly, no. only some choice Laurening can express it.
Beltre didn’t have a chance to score on that. The ball was hit too hard.
Lauren: Gamecast is lying to you.
USSM, #1 in customer service
With regard to Rick White, I’m not actively rooting for him to fail. I’m rooting for him to retire.
Probably our best shot to get at Wang, pissed away.
USSM never crashes. It just gets really slow sometimes.
129 – No, it wasn’t even close. The only shot Beltre had was if Posada fumbled the catch.
129, Godzilla had the ball when Bletre hit third. No way he should have been sent.
#141
I’m rooting for him to get shanked in the clubhouse showers.
Clutch!
129. No, it wasn’t close. For those saying that it was a great throw and catch, even a mediocre catch and throw would’ve gotten him by ten feet.
#144
You ready for some football!!!
Go Seahawks.
Ok, so who had Horam holding NY to one run through 5?
Yeah, me too. *ahem*
I will have to give credit to HoRam for keeping this game close. If we lose it won’t be HoRam’s fault.
I will have to give credit to HoRam for keeping this game close. If we lose it won’t be HoRam’s fault.
It’s not really him keeping it close though. He hasn’t pitched well, things just haven’t hit the fan yet.
Sending Beltre there looked like a big-time panic move, as opposed to just plain ol’ poor judgement. So not smart. With Horammy’s good luck, we’re in this thing and we should be playing fairly conservatively on the offensive end.
HoRam should kick Garcia in the nuts. He is pitching a 1 run game though 5 in Yankee stadium and since Garcia thinks his job is to play air guitar over at 3rd and send anyone that comes near him we are still down 1-0.
For a little history I have known Garcia was going to kill us in a big game eventually, been preaching it for months now. Being right usually feels better.
Only Vern Fonk can get me to forget that last inning. On second thought no he can’t.
To expand on Derek’s point (which I don’t have to do, because he’s quite clear), we don’t hope the players fail, but we do recognise the downside of their success. There’s a difference.
Adam Dunn could’ve gunned Beltre on that one…
I love Vern Fonk. I can’t believe he’s real.
Maybe Raul even could have got Beltre at home.
157 – Even Manny would have probably have had no problem on that.
Boy it just seems like Ichiro dials it in as the game progresses! I think he feels like he can hit every pitch, but by the 3rd AB he knows that he has the pitcher wired.
I actually honked the last time I drove by Vern Fonk. Someone there gave me the finger, though.
Wait a minute. The throw was strong and on target but the short hop he gave to Posada made that a difficult play. Many catchers don’t make that short hop. The argument that Matsui’s arm is average has some merit for defending the call to send Beltre home.
No luck on that ball. Another inning ending double play.
Anyone have a rope?
DMZ: Please tell me Guillen didn’t just do you-know-what.
This is gettin rediculous,
163 – How can you predict a short hop when sending a runner? Matsui’s arm is a bit above average and the hit was incredibly shallow. Even with Beltre’s speed that was a huge gamble at a poor time to be gambling.
If we lose a HoRam game on the road 1-0, I think I might have to shoot myself.
well, if you take away a couple of swings, the M’s have had a great day at the plate.
163- No. Just no.
This is not a local softball league, these are Major League Baseball Players!! Professional Athletes!!! They are expected to make good plays and do!
I am tired of hearing an excuse of, “Well it was a good play they should have sent him in case it is a poor throw”. NO!!! They make good plays cause they are professional players!!
Is this great, good or so-so pitching?
20 batters faced.
6 line drives for a hit.
1 line drive for an out.
2 ground balls for a hit.
7 ground ball for an out.
1 Fly Ball for an out.
2 K’s
1 Sac Bunt.
For a split second there, I forgot there was one out, thought Cano had caught the ball and turned a triple play.
In case you were wondering, before today, only 2 MLB teams have more GIDP than Seattle.
Rally Squirrel!!! If we win tonight HoRam has a new mascot
Heh heh. Squirrel.
ball hog….
Yeah, I wanna see the official Yankee Squirrel™ again. What’s his name? Mr. Nutsy?
The situation , kenshabby, made the call a poor one, in my opinion. Even, if you’re playing for one run, you don’t send the runner.
Well the Padres picked up Tomko. Not that the M’s were going to replace HoRam after holding the Yanks to 1 run through five. No matter what he does next…
Damn that was crushed.
Typical HoRam hit.
At least it was a solo shot.
163 – I was surprised it was as close as it was. It looked to me like Matsui was pretty shallow and was throwing just as Beltre rounded third, it looked to me like he was gonna be out by a mile and I couldn’t imagine why he was being sent with nobody out. Disastrous.
Goddamn A-Rod.
3-2 count to A-Rod and Sims is talking about a squirrel
That ball’s gonna land in Lake Union.
179 – I don’t, understand, what, you’re saying, and you’re using, too, many commas.
Can we have him back, please?
Don’t blame HoRam. He is pitching really well.
HoRam looks kind of surprised…that’s cute.
Dear Yankees
Can you put Mike Mussina back on the mound?
#187
Comma chameleon?
What was scary about A-Rods homer is he didn’t even have full extention on that one. He still put it in the upper deck.
It happens when a questionable #5 starter pitches against the best hitter in the AL and perhaps the league.
Get Ho out.
Lets get the bullpen throwing.
That was Matsui’s 6th assist of the year (in 207 chances)
manny Ramirez – 8 assists in 191 chances
Raul Ibanez – 6 assists in 202 chances
Craig Monroe – 6 in 171 chances
Matsui
Shannon Stewart – 4 in 241 chances
Carl Crawford – 3 in 273 chances
Jay Payton – 2 in 198 chances
I check in to see the Yankees have 2 DPs and an outfield assist.
3 of 6 baserunners lost against Wang.
Slight hope to no hope.
#188– Jim Street says “no”
I dunno. I have the same problem with him that I do with attorneys who specialize in getting drivers out of drunk driving charges.
197- Define chance in that situation for me please.
89 mph fastball from Ho
Sims, “good change of speed”
Catcher’s interference? It’s not like Ho needs anybody inventing ways to extend a bad inning.
Going from 90 to 89 miles an hour is not a “good change of speed” Mr. Sims.
what the hell is this team doing???
what kind of throw was that Ichiro?
OK, we can laugh at that only because he brings so much joy!
he decided mid throw to go to 3b. His mind performed but body didn’t.
It must be hard for Ichiro to let the lead runner pass.
I mean, he isn’t going to let anyone have a free pass without a challenge right?
“That was Matsui’s 6th assist of the year (in 207 chances)”
Yeah, but I wonder how many of those failed attempts were with nobody out, the runner rounding third as Matsui was already throwing and positioned only about 20 feet behind the infield dirt. I mean, that’s the point: Raul, Manny, Craig Monroe, Jay Payton, Shannon Stewart, Carl Crawford and my Aunt Petunia all could have thrown Beltre out there. I felt it in my gut the moment I saw him go, I thought there was no way he was gonna go for it.
Sometimes things just get away from you.
Vern Fonk has an interesting business plan, which seems to be “we insure dumbasses and felons who can’t pay their bills.” I can see him explaining that to an advertising agency. They came up with the perfect commercial.
Sweet, now Rivera can’t get a cool-looking “S” next to his name in the box score.
Final totals for Mr. Ramirez (unaudited):
26 batters faced.
6 line drives for a hit. (incl. 1 HR)
1 line drive for an out.
4 ground balls for a hit.
7 ground ball for an out.
1 Fly Ball for a hit (a home run)
2 Fly Balls for an out.
3 K’s
1 Walk
1 Sac Bunt.
197-
Ichiro throws out .02% of his “chances”
Matsui throws out .03% of his “chances”
Well obviously Matsui has a better arm and everyone should run on Ichiro. That was easily the worst stat argument I have ever seen used at USSM. It is the equivalent of using ground balls between 2nd and 1st on a rainy night game during April with less the 2 outs to determine how good a player is.
Whether it’s pitchers or position players, the Mariner strategy appears, uniformly, to be: leave them in until they have conclusively failed. Richie Sexson from April to August – HoRam in the 6th inning tonight.
They never act pro-actively. They are always in the hole.
Dammit.
I going to go bake a blackberry pie.
Everyone please make voodoo dolls of your least-favorite Yankee tonight and keep a pocketful of pins with you during tomorrow’s game.
Spike Lee is at the game to work on the script for his noew movie, “How Raul Got His U’s Back.”
Well I was close to calling HoRam’s line:
5 1/3 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 3K—-called
5 2/3 IP, 9H, 3ER, 1 BB, 3K—–actual
I get nothing and like it.
You are the HamNastiest of the all the HamNastys!
Those total chances are wrong. I used what was available on ESPN.
But where did I say those stats defended the decision to send him home?
Beltre!
ARRGHGHH!!
Not that the game is out of reach, we start scoring.
Yay Beltre. Now Jobe and Rivera can dominate this lineup.
That would have felt sooo good an inning ago.
Obviously, you need total chances for getting an assist. Who has those stats – THT, mgl, DMZ, UZR, someone else?
221
A 3 run lead is out of reach? Wow.
Is Joba done with his suspension?
positivity post: Broussard is SO much better than Sexson! AND he’s playing!
You argued to send him home earlier, which a few people let you know they thought it was a poor decision. Then you list Matsui’s assist stats, I made the assumption that you thought Matsui’s throw out per chance rate was a indicator that we shouldn’t expect him to make a good throw.
The problem is chances has next to NOTHING to do with assists. A chance could be a pop fly with no one on base and no one out. Chances and assists are so loosely correlated it is ridiculous to use.
We dont want Chamberlain/Rivera.
Lets shoot for Mussina/Farnsworth. lol.
Hey, think of it like this. When the M’s need to hold a lead, we have Rick White. Maybe they will employ a similar tactic with Mussina.
226 from what I heard he served it immediately, without appealing, so he’s available. Funny how certain teams/players (although I’m sure the Yankees told him what to do) consider how to best deal with things so that they’re as strong as possible in important games.
Jeter to Cano to Mientkiewicz. These are the saddest of possible words.
wow whats the record for most GIDP in a game? isnt that our 3rd one this is gettin stupid.
It’s cool, HamNasty.
MacLaren again pulling a relief pitcher after a third of an inning leaving everyone exhausted at the end of the game and no one to turn to but Rick White.
Tinker to Evers to Chance
I’m intrigued to see Joba against the M’s. The way this team flails at random pitches, who knows?
233- I am just upset cause Mariner coaches have been making poor decisions poorly for 30 years.
If-msb-is baking Mariners are winning. Power of pie.
Or POP as we prefer to name it.
Ok, now it’s out of reach.
Ugly to Crap to Sh!t.
Still a 3% win expectancy! Cmon, M’s!
Sims couldn’t have said it better. We are a #2 hitting team tonight, in other words.
Uh oh, A-Rod hurt.
yankee fans are shitting their collective pants
Woo! Another pitching change! How many will Mac go through tonight?
Now we have to watch that clip 4000 times on ESPN and FOX all year, thanks Beltre!
I would like to spend the rest of this game watching that squirrel.
247 – At this point, me, too.
I uh… I think I’m going to start drinking now. This is fuckin ridiculous.
Someone stab me.
Please.
C’mon RRS, c’mon.
“Start”?
I uh… I think I’m going to start drinking now. This is f’in ridiculous.
I’m glad I had the sense to start two hours ago. Five beers in, and this is much easier to take.
Apparently the M’s liked that losing streak so much, they’re bound and determined to start another one…
DMZ: Please tell me that everything that happened on my bus ride didn’t happen. Thanks. There’s a hippie Pop Tart in it for you.
well we better wear out our entire bullpen so we have to throw rick white out there in a high leverage situation tomorrow.
Shot through the heart!
Guess it’s back to 2-under.
Boy howdy, that youth is sure working out well for us in the bullpen tonight.
DMZ, you are starting now?? That is way to late. I bust out the Rally Micro brews at 5:05 ET.
OUCH… This is getting ugly fast.
ALERT: HERE IS WHERE RICK WHITE SHOULD COME IN!!
NOTE TO MACLAREN:
When it is 9-1, it is the time to see if some washup guy is any good, NOT IN THE 9TH INNING OF A TIE GAME OR IN THE 7TH INNING OF A 1-RUN GAME AGAINST THE ANGELS!!!
ah crap… they just did a close up shot of the line up card, and R. White is still available…
Time to bring in “Bleach” White.
So what’s the tone of the KSTW.com chat going to be: complete dejection, unbridled anger or weary surrender?
Lauren: nothing happened during your bus ride. Nothing at all.
This should be fun.
#249 DMZ, Would it help the drinking if the “buy the author a beer” were back up somewhere?
It was fun.
Parrish isn’t any better.
Perhaps this is all part of Mac’s evil plan to wear out the Yankee batters so they will be too tired to hit tomorrow.
Ommmmmmm
hell-oooo, shiraz
M’s can’t buy an out.
I guess it’s not surprising. The Yankees would just offer 1.5x as much money for the opposite call.
Kickoff in 4 days… 18 hours…. 30 minutes…. Go Hawks!
This is awesome, you know, watching a playoff caliber team and all. Oh, wait, it’s not our team.
Your pitching sucks, Parrish. It sucked last time we had to put up with you, and it sucks now.
Or maybe it is MacLaren’s plan to say to Bavasi: “Look at this crap you saddled me with. You want me to have to use these guys, I’ll show you how good they are.”
But probably it is just incompetence.
Parrish is like a left-handed Rick White. No colored goatee though.
Can’t have everything!
Again with the damn squirrel..
I think MacLaren is saving Rick White for the 9th.
Didn’t Parrish have an unbleached chin muff when he arrived?
OMG, Parrish just vaulted percentage points ahead of White for my most hated M. Upset of the Year.
This would, btw, be a fine time to pull the team and play the rookies.
[Chaves]
Alberto Gonzalez makes his major league debut…
can we forfeit?
I’ll bet he’ll have Sherrill pitch the last two innings to answer complaints about Sherill repeatedly working just one batter.
Trade Morrow, Sherriell, and Putz. We’ve got Parrish and “Bleach” White.
Chaves: Dude you suck.
Parrish: Yeah I know.
Chaves: No dude you seriously seriously suck.
Parrish: Can I go home now?
Chaves: Fuck you.
*walks away*
No way, this is totally Sexson time! JK
That’s Sherrill. Not Sherriell. Sorry.
Wasn’t Parrish kicked off the roster last week?
Maybe John McLaren will raise the Twelvth man at a Hawks game. They’re gonna run out of people eventually.
But rookies get coaches fired.
O’Flaherty, Morrow, and Rowland-Smith are, for all intents and purposes, rookies.
Oh, those weren’t THE rookies you were talking about.
That squirrel is 8,502 times cooler than Rally Fries.
Time for stupidity:
So can Wang be beaten with the long ball?
Can’t take it anymore. Jeremy Fucking Reed. Unbelievable.
Let’s go Clement!
Torre: Hey guys, we’re beating the M’s 11-1. Let’s prolong their misery by going to the mound 5000 times.
Who cares if Reed bats? Might as well play the call-ups,
we’re toast.
Wang looks tired, he went a long time.
#298
There are other younger players that need to get some at bats rather than the bust that is Reed.
Clement is a Mariner! Swinging at first pitch 1st AB, guarantee he starts next year.
Clement’s got a loooong swing.
At least Clement swung at strikes. Not much of an improvement over some of Mariners’ hitters, but we’ll take anything we can get.
And I thought the Rainiers season ended yesterday.
Glad to see my boys again.
Of course, it’s not like they were successful at the team level in AAA…
Who’s this guy coming up to the plate?
This feels like late innings in a Spring Training game. We have ‘who the hell is he?’ on the mound and a bunch of rookies batting.
Balentin! I am excited!
It’s so odd to see young, athletic players running the bases. Must wash this memory out of my mind so I don’t start yelling irrationally when Vidro’s in the line up tomorrow.
Yay! We’re back to being in the red regarding run deficit (674 scored, 676 allowed).
I have a new favorite Mariner. Hint, his name isn’t Vidro.
Wlad!
I went to the bathroom in the top of the sixth….did I miss anything?
I just got home, but it appears that these two young outfielders have done better than the rest of the lineup so far tonight.
I’m sorry, but I now want to call him Big Bad Wlad.
SHAPOOPI!
So who was to blame for the total meltdown with pitching? The statline on Morrow doesn’t look very good.
313: they’re hitting against a different pitcher, you know, cuz the other one got so tired while his team was scoring all those runs.
wahooo, lets have Tacoma vs. New York, could probably do better than we did with our real team out there.
I like Jimerson. My favorite Mariner since Charles Gipson.
Who’s the Baddest Wlad in the whole damned town?
At least we know there’s someone fatter and uglier than Rick White.
Wow, big fella, don’t fall off the mound!
Nick Green in MVP 2005 was really good. I know past performance doesn’t mean anything, but I’m excited to see him with the M’s.
I still have that Gipson outfield assist throw against the Twins on video tape.
Ah, fond memories.
That was the most enjoyable half inning of Mariners baseball I have seen in about 2 weeks.
So now that I’ve seen them, I have an even stronger desire to trade Clement and Balentien. Clement just didn’t look like he had much bat speed and his swing is huge. I don’t doubt that he crushes a ball here and there, but I don’t think he’ll make much contact. Balentien looked better (and not just because he managed to make contact), but his swing was a little big and slow too. Neither of them look anywhere near Jones’s level. That guy has some batspeed.
So that’s why they’re call the bombers.
Wow, White sure looks sharp tonight…guess he’s turning it around after recent struggles.
#325 How about we trade Sexson before trading Balentien or Clement? Sexson has a longer swing than Balentien.
Go mAAAriners!
Hmm, I guess with the lucky double play I should clarify that commenst 327 was sarcasm. I assumed it would be obvious, up until that.
So now that I’ve seen them, I have an even stronger desire to trade Clement and Balentien.
You’re going to create your opinion of two potentially great players based on watching on at-bat of each of them?
A flaw in Gamecast briefly showed the Yankee outfield (Matsui-Cabrera-Abreu) playing alongside an infield of Beltre-Jeter-Cano-Broussard. It was like a fantasy team for a minute there. It’s been fixed now, with the exception of a big hole at SS where there’s no name.
It’s funny what little things you notice when the score is so lopsided.
Oakland 1, LA of A 0, top 1
325 – “So now that I’ve seen them…”
From one-at bat you mustered all that?
I wouldn’t give up on them so quickly
Let’s Go Greenhorn M’s!
I always though Morse should be better with his size. Like an athletic Sexson.
#333 Are we even concerned with Anaheim anymore? I’m pretty sure that dream is shot.
So, which Johnny Damon do you miss more? Caveman Damon, or “dorky bowl cut” Damon?
I liked Damon more when he had hair. For that reason alone I shall cherish Fever Pitch.
#338 You must’ve been typing that at the same time as me.
Let’s hit around with our AAA team. That would be as satisfying as a W.
Ironic that the day Baker does his dumb piece on veteran-ness and experience the Tacoma Rainiers come into Yankee Stadium and put a bunch of good at bats together
I’m realllllllllllly fucking tired of that squirrel now
Time for chat! kstw.com
What’s the story behind the squirrel? This game reminded me of playing The Bigs video game against my best friend. Of course, I usually play as the M’s and win, but same feel.
w/r/t KSTW chat: yeah, and people complain when USSM goes down
STOP SHOWING THE FUCKING SQUIRREL NO ONE CARES IT IS A FLUFFY RAT ARGH
dang. to think I missed the Squirrel Story.
oh, and apparently blackberry pie is a secret Yankee Rally baked good.
who knew?
I swear the KSTW people are monitoring this thread and showing the squirrel on the post-game show at a one shot/complaint ratio, just to show us who’s boss.
That squirrel had more grit and winning attitude than a thousand Willie Bloomquists. Back off, squirrel hater!
has Norm gotten to talk about a win on the post-game, yet?
Should we be thinking Jonah?
Did I miss the Dave chat?
I’ts a live chat room feed on kstw.com
is it worth watching the repeat of the 8th & 9th to see the kids?
what are the odds Washburn gets out of Yankee Stadium without giving up a home run?
I want that pop tart, Lauren.
About 0.7%
At least we set the major league record for most pinch hits in an inning.
God I am so depressed, I refuse to watch gamecast after watching that debacle. It was a slow, painful and agonizing death. At least we set a record.
DMZ: I owe you two now! Will there be a post-season get-together where I can poptart you?
I’d say that sounded dirtier than intended, but come on, it’s me. Who’d believe that bullshit?
what flavor of pop tart goes best with shiraz?
Well, hippie pop tarts come in:
Raspberry Frosted
Wildberry Acai Frosted
Strawberry Frosted
Brown Sugar Maple Cinnamon Frosted
Cherry Pomegran(tm) Frosted
Chocolate Frosted
Blueberry Frosted
Apple Cinnamon Frosted
and a bunch of other, less-interesting, unfrosted varieties.
It’s only for DMZ to choose.
hmm. wonder if I still have any olives…
First off, I’ve wanted to trade them for a while. Watching them today just continued to convince me of what I already believed.
Second, I still think they could be good players. I’ll admit, I’m pretty sketchy on Clement, but I think Balentien will be a well above average player. I wouldn’t be even a little surprised to see him slug .500 multiple times.
Regardless, I’d trade them both for a decent young pitcher in a second.
“Carlos felt bad about it”
and I am out of olives.
#359
WTF, I thought you meant weed Pop Tarts.
Drayer just pointed out that Joel got the win tonight for St Louis, with the save going to Ryan Franklin.
I don’t know why any pitcher chooses the AL over the NL.
I just got back from the game. It was a relatively hostile night. A fellow M’s fan sat right in front of me (also a fellow Sammamish HS graduate – what the hell are the odds of that?). I did my part and told him that WFB sucks and promoted both USSM and Geoff Baker.
Ew, people put weed in Pop Tarts?
If so, you’d think they would call them Pot Tarts.
I figured it was a cousin of weed brownies and cookies.
All the talk about weed and pop tarts, I think we’re talking about the sad end of the Colorado Buffaloes, not the Seattle Mariners.
And those hippie pop tarts… why the “organic evaporated can juice” pretentiousness? The rest of us call that SUGAR.
go Totems
dw: plain sugar is a GATEWAY SWEETENER. Just wait and you’ll be snorting Sweet-n-Low by the case.
369 – I just couldn’t believe that out of 55,000+ fans at Yankee Stadium at this particular game, another SHS grad sat right in front of me. I feel as though my MegaMillions Lotto luck is all used up now…
dw: plain sugar is a GATEWAY SWEETENER. Just wait and you’ll be snorting Sweet-n-Low by the case.
Oh please. I can quit sugar anytime I want to. I don’t have a sweetener problem. You’re the one with the problem.