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		<title>By: Axtell</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-3/#comment-234530</link>
		<dc:creator>Axtell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the M&#039;s kept me interested in baseball until football started, something I haven&#039;t been able to say the past couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the M&#8217;s kept me interested in baseball until football started, something I haven&#8217;t been able to say the past couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gomez</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-3/#comment-234308</link>
		<dc:creator>Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>102.  Yeah.  Though we know better about using results-based analysis, the FO does not, and it&#039;s almost impossible that they&#039;d fire Bavasi after the team&#039;s improved its record under his watch for 3 straight seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>102.  Yeah.  Though we know better about using results-based analysis, the FO does not, and it&#8217;s almost impossible that they&#8217;d fire Bavasi after the team&#8217;s improved its record under his watch for 3 straight seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-3/#comment-234306</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>102-

Statistically, Bavasi has improved the team yearly. My arguement is that the money he&#039;s spent, while improving the team, could have brought back so much more. No one will debate this is a more talented team than he inherited. I submit that with better deal making accumen, this team would be better for the same amount spent.</description>
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<p>Statistically, Bavasi has improved the team yearly. My arguement is that the money he&#8217;s spent, while improving the team, could have brought back so much more. No one will debate this is a more talented team than he inherited. I submit that with better deal making accumen, this team would be better for the same amount spent.</p>
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		<title>By: bob montgomery</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-3/#comment-234305</link>
		<dc:creator>bob montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bavasi&#039;s decisions have frustrated me as well, but it&#039;s worth looking at his track record with the Mariners.  The team has improved every season he has been at the helm:
2004: 63-99
2005: 69-93
2006: 78-84
2007: 72-64</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bavasi&#8217;s decisions have frustrated me as well, but it&#8217;s worth looking at his track record with the Mariners.  The team has improved every season he has been at the helm:<br />
2004: 63-99<br />
2005: 69-93<br />
2006: 78-84<br />
2007: 72-64</p>
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		<title>By: shortbus</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-3/#comment-234297</link>
		<dc:creator>shortbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it accurate to claim that the bullpen is worn out?  What was a strength of this team has totally collapsed in the last two or three weeks.  (I&#039;d love to back this up with stats, but can&#039;t find a way to get stats on the &#039;pen over the last 30 days compared to the previous four months).  Is it time to reconsider the pitching market and just accept the fact that you are going to have to overpay in salary to get even decent pitching, if you don&#039;t have it in your minor league system?  You never want to overpay with talent in a trade, but it seems like we could have acquired a significantly better pitcher than HoRam at the deadline if we were willing to shell out the dollars.  Not just a minor upgrade (like Wells or Tomko would have been), but a guy in the Batista or Washburn, 3rd or 4th starter quality guy.  

Of course, those two haven&#039;t looked that great during this losing streak either...it&#039;s not just HoRam that&#039;s been bad.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it accurate to claim that the bullpen is worn out?  What was a strength of this team has totally collapsed in the last two or three weeks.  (I&#8217;d love to back this up with stats, but can&#8217;t find a way to get stats on the &#8216;pen over the last 30 days compared to the previous four months).  Is it time to reconsider the pitching market and just accept the fact that you are going to have to overpay in salary to get even decent pitching, if you don&#8217;t have it in your minor league system?  You never want to overpay with talent in a trade, but it seems like we could have acquired a significantly better pitcher than HoRam at the deadline if we were willing to shell out the dollars.  Not just a minor upgrade (like Wells or Tomko would have been), but a guy in the Batista or Washburn, 3rd or 4th starter quality guy.  </p>
<p>Of course, those two haven&#8217;t looked that great during this losing streak either&#8230;it&#8217;s not just HoRam that&#8217;s been bad.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Charlton Fan Club</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-2/#comment-234292</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm Charlton Fan Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the game last night and it was just heart-breaking.  For 6 innings I thought we had everything under control and McLaren actually seemed to be using his better relievers for once (I was pumped when George came in in relief) and just everything exploded.  It was the longest half inning I ever experienced live and I wish I could erase it from my memory.

I spent the hour or so car ride home absolutely numb and I still feel that way today.  I hate the Yankees so f&#039;in much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the game last night and it was just heart-breaking.  For 6 innings I thought we had everything under control and McLaren actually seemed to be using his better relievers for once (I was pumped when George came in in relief) and just everything exploded.  It was the longest half inning I ever experienced live and I wish I could erase it from my memory.</p>
<p>I spent the hour or so car ride home absolutely numb and I still feel that way today.  I hate the Yankees so f&#8217;in much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kouvre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kouvre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>95

You&#039;re talking about a FO that signed Jarrod Washburn based his ERA.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re talking about a FO that signed Jarrod Washburn based his ERA.</p>
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		<title>By: zugzwang</title>
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		<dc:creator>zugzwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuing the &quot;alternate universe&quot; daydreaming in 76...

If we hadn&#039;t traded Snelling for Vidro, Snelling would have been our DH, he would likely have been so-so, then got hurt, clearing room for AJ to take over in left and Raul to go to DH.  No Vidro, no logjam.</description>
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<p>If we hadn&#8217;t traded Snelling for Vidro, Snelling would have been our DH, he would likely have been so-so, then got hurt, clearing room for AJ to take over in left and Raul to go to DH.  No Vidro, no logjam.</p>
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		<title>By: VaughnStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>VaughnStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another 9 game losing streak and there is doubt the Mariners even win 80 games. Of course that result could bring the fire Mclaren scenario into sharp focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another 9 game losing streak and there is doubt the Mariners even win 80 games. Of course that result could bring the fire Mclaren scenario into sharp focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/05/thats-a-wrap/comment-page-2/#comment-234276</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I worry about.  I fear that this season is like the one winning season in Kansas City this century - nothing more than a fluke that allows the complacent and incompetent to keep their jobs and keep repeating the same mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I worry about.  I fear that this season is like the one winning season in Kansas City this century &#8211; nothing more than a fluke that allows the complacent and incompetent to keep their jobs and keep repeating the same mistakes.</p>
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