Game 144, Athletics at Mariners
DMZ · September 12, 2007 at 6:19 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
The “Postseason priority” ads are still up on the M’s page.
Haren v Batista.
Broussard plays first, Bloomquist plays second, Burke catches.
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I know that the M’s season is basically over anyway, but damn, do the bloody Yankees ever lose anymore? Cripes.
All we have to do to reach the playoffs is play .900 ball for the rest of the schedule!
To me, this looks like a Yanks year. Under the radar for first half, then get it together for the second half. (Of course the Angels always beat them – but small sample…)
I’m curious who else thinks that Dan Haren is worthy of placing 2nd or 3rd in Cy Young voting. I pick him as 2nd, and no lower than 3rd (I have Santana #1).
No Mariners for me tonight, sorry. Not until Bavasi is fired.
4 – I’m afraid we’ll make him look like a Cy Young winner tonight.
So like, there is a fairly large emphasis in the “potential” portion of that ad when talking about post season games this yea, eh?
4 – I got Haren after Santana, Sabathia, and Carmona.
I just realized I have no tonic to make a soothing gametime G&T. Nooooooooooooooooo.
That’s sad, DMZ. Our friendly neighborhood liquor store is only 2 blocks away…
Not a whole lot is convenient out here on the Oregon coast, but liquor stores are aplenty.
For me, Lackey has been every bit as good as Haren this year.
195 IP, 196 H, 81 R, 69 ER, 49 BB 152 K, 136 ERA+
Why would you want to dilute the alcohol while watching this team?
Orange or cranberry juice DMZ? Make some mighty fine Gin & Juice.
The doctor told me today that my blood pressure’s a bit high. Gotta take a break from the Bombay Sapphire for a while. Fortunately for me this coincides with the end of the Mariners’ season.
Hmm, they still have my $2300 for playoff tickets, too. I guess I won’t see that back until November.
12… yeah, may as well bring out the Everclear.
My blood pressure’s a bit high. The M’s are responsible for at least 8 on the systolic end and about 5 on the diastolic end. Another reason to drink 3-5 glasses of wine per week.
#15. That reminds me. In light of some discussion that I think occurred in the last blog entry, how many of you have committed a down payment (deposit) for season tickets for next season?
That sentiment of “walking away” from the Mariners in a kind-of boycott won’t be real obvious if they still have oodles of deposits on hand. I’ve been reading here and elsewhere over the past few years, though, that corporate suite and season box seat committments have sharply decreased. True?
A free night of comedy at the EQC sounds infinitely more enjoyable than watching the Ms.*
* Since the enjoyment value of the Ms is zero, and infinity times zero is zero, comedy night’s entertainment value must also be zero. Proof is left as an exercise for the reader.
I was just discussing at work today, wondering how many people suckered into the ‘get 2008 season tix so you can get a shot at partial playoff strips’, and how many will now be backing out full force…
Churchill just hosted an awesome chat with a scout at PI. He’s going to post the transcript. Some interesting stuff there.
Well, nothing new on TV, so at least it’s a nice little diversion until this weekend.
Go Dawgs!
18… you can’t get your deposit back?
Go Bloomquist!
ll we have to do to reach the playoffs is play .900 ball
Or a Yankee plane crash. Just kidding of course. The Mariners would look ridiculous playing with black armbands on their sleeves anyway. Not that they don’t look ridiculous playing without black armbands.
23 – when i was an Ms season ticket holder (2 years ago, for the prior 8), you just had to put a deposit down, and they usually charged a nonrefundable fee, then you had till November or January to back out and get your deposit back. I wonder what the psychology of all that plays out to be, like, how long before people start demanding that deposit back…
I would be willing to bet that the Mariners will send only a certain percentage of your season ticket deposit back — minus a “handling fee” or something — if you ask for it…and that they’ll take their time about it, even more than davepaisley has estimated.
Yankees win, Tigers win, Angels win. The AL situation is kind of boring. The Dodgers, Rockies, Cardinals, Cubs, Braves and Phillies all have better odds at the postseason than the M’s, even though none of them lead the wildcard in the NL.
Hey, remember when the M’s went on that skid during the interleague games, and we all took solace in the fact that they were at least better than Lou’s team? Yeah, well, so much for that. The way things are going all of Lou’s post-Mariners teams are going to taste the postseason before the M’s do again.
I think Bloomquist is my least favorite Mariner. What purpose does it
serve to keep throwing him out there? Please throw out an actual
prospect if you’re going to throw someone out there!!!!
Keep crying your way to the unemployment line, JMac! Argh
Or, what Oly Rainiers Fan said..
27 — “all of Lou’s post-Mariners teams are going to taste the postseason before the M’s do again.”
We’re still ahead of the Devil Rays, yippee!
I would hope that this teams progress is still ahead of the Devil Rays…
The Devil Rays are absolutely loaded. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they won the World Series in 2009.
I would like to read a post from Dave some day titled “What I would do if I were the Devil Ray GM.” Besides commit suicide, I wonder what strategy he could scare up. What a sad situation, bad ballpark, and then they have to look up at the two biggest spenders in the majors every year. No reason why they couldn’t displace Baltimore though, one would think.
It just is hard to think that any team besides Boston or NY can win anymore.
*In that division.
If Tampa could hang on to the youngsters long enough and pitch better, they could compete at some point, but it is really hard to see them getting higher than third. Unless the NYY-Boston axis is prone for collapse.
33 – Do you have any idea the number of talented prospects and young players they have there?
Have they run out the all-B’s infield before, or is this the first time?
I doubt it since Burke only played on Sundays
37 I think it would be great for all of baseball if they could hang onto the kids in the system and upend the AL east standings. But as we have seen this year, Boston also has a reservoir of youth to go with their budget. I’d love to see it happen. Hope it does.
By the way, I think they are dropping “Devil” from their name. Did I hear that somewhere? Their fortunes have to rise now.
We call it the B-team.
Dave- “What was your favorite year before college?”
Sure, that makes sense.
What?? Did we just hear about Dave’s crush on Ms. Newerhausen? (SP on the name) Really? That made my year!! Dave Niehaus can’t talk about whatever the hell he wants. I am done bitching about it.
Dave is freaking senile. I know, news to no one.
Dave Sims: “And now the Mariners are in a little bit of trouble.”
Is that on a prerecorded loop that Rizzs can play at the push of a button?
I hate Rizzs with a passion, but I loved the lengthy, awkward, pregnant
pause after Dave asked his favorite pre-college year. You could just
hear him thinking, uh, what . . .the. . .@#$#. . .old. . .man. . .
HamNasty, what exactly would you prefer Neihaus talk about? I suspect Ms. Newerhausen was better looking than the baseball the M’s are playing right now.
38 pitches in the second. Feels like a long night already.
According to Komo 4 news. The Yankees will have to go 8-8 and Mariners will have to go 17-2 if they want to make the playoffs, and 16-3 to tie it. Doesn’t look like they are going to start a 10 game winning streak tonight.
Dave could talk about the Seahawks.
What’s especially funny about Dave’s senility is how Blowers rejects the story bait.
Dave: “So, ever been to North Dakota?”
Mike: “No.”
Dave: “Ever seen one of those James Bond movies?”
Mike: “No.”
Dave: “Ever eaten chicken?”
Mike: “Yeah…”
Dave: “You know, back in college, I used to pluck chickens, you know, the feathers, right off the live chicken….”
Very funny, expletive. Very funny indeed (post 50)
Dave: “You know down in Guatemala we used to brew coffee fresh pick the beans right
off the vine. That was good. This is s$%t but you know this is a Triple A baseball. . .”
Rizzs: “THERE IS NO KEYSER SOZE!”
Did Dave just call somebody 3-ball Wok?!
Oh my Lord kill me now I am listening to Dave rap MC Hammer.
You guys have to specify which Dave you are talking about. I am not sure whether you are talking about Dave Niehuas or Dave Sims. Sorry i know they just switch it up all the time.
I’m talking about Dave N. and I’m not joking, he was just rapping
MC Hammer. This is how the season ends. . . . with grotesque horrors. . .
Dave Neihaus just said it was the 9th. I wish it was, my liver would be better off if I could stop drinking now.
Dave: “… so I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.”
One almost gets the impression that the announcers no longer care.
Jeez you think Dave N might be getting alzheimer’s?
Getting? Dude has been loopy like this for years
Its really hard to watch this anymore…but I dinker out of Bloomie still brightens my night.
If anyone cares, you can still sponsor the 2007 M’s page on baseball-reference.com. For a mere $130. Though the price is steadily declining. (By comparison, the Tigers’ page is a relatively pricey $210. Yanks’, $390.)
Dave: You know when I was four I had a pet wombat. I named him
Binky. Did you ever have a pet wombat?
WOW…Beltre walked, lets see Raul Groundout now!
I take that back…it seems Garcia learned from his mistake.
I’ve been pondering Mariner metaphors. The most apt I’ve been able to construct so far is, “If the surge in Iraq had gone as well as the Mariners’ season for the last 3 weeks, Osama Bin Laden would have shot his last video tape in the Oval Office.”
If ANY announcer brings up 1995…
I guess they finally put Crazy Uncle Dave N. to bed.
I am a fairly recent Mariners fan. (This is my 3rd season following them since i moved here around 3 years ago). Can anyone tell me what their record and standing in 1995 was?
1995 – Good.
2007 – Dont ask.
Sorry i didn’t clarify, i meant what was their record and standing at this day in 1995.
Running hard?! That’s running hard now? I run hard all the time when I’m window shopping, then.
Don’t get me started on Dave N…ooops…too late.
I respect how long he’s been doing the job, but this year he’s seemed to be loopier than is the norm for him. I don’t know how many times this year I’ve heard him get the Jose’s mixed up (saying Guillen when he meant Lopez, or Vidro, etc). I mean I know it’s tough to see from the pressbox, but that’s why they wear big numbers on their backs.
And the topper this year has been the occasional “SWUNG ON AND BELTED…DEEP TO LEFT FIELD…AND THAT BABY WILL…………..FLY A-BOUNCE OFF THE FENCE!”
I was driving home, so I had to listen to Rizzs give Willie B. an A for effort after not throwing out his man at first. I guess it is better than throwing the ball away. oh wait.
you know, I think you should be able to finish a series without knowing the names of your umpiring crew.
#24– aren’t the Yanks already in armbands for the Scooter?
oh, and if I was broadcasting my 30th year of crap baseball, I think I’d be tempted to talk about anything but baseball, too.
Some people on this blog are probably watching their 30th year of crap baseball, and they talk about random shit all the time!
I am a fairly recent Mariners fan. (This is my 3rd season following them since i moved here around 3 years ago). Can anyone tell me what their record and standing in 1995 was?
The big deal with 95 is that they came back from way down, forced a one game playoff against the Angels. The overall record was 79/66, but the big deal is that they came from being way back (after years of sucking) and managed to make the playoffs. Plus, that was very early in the careers of most of our superstars.
#76 – good point. I sometimes confuse Dave N. with Bob Uecker’s character in Minor League
Rene Lacheman? Former Ms manager coaching 3rd base for As. Cool.
Rizzs does that ‘juuuust a bit outside’ thing, which drives me nuts, because you can’t tell if indeed it was just a bit outside, or Homer Rizzsy is calling a Ueckeresque pitch.
#79 – actually, make that Major League.
Bad Ichiro, Bad!!
a droppedball??? isn’t that one of the signs of the apocalypse?
WTF, seriously, WTF
Oh, and by being way back they were 15.5 games back at the largest (quick search), and ended up winning the division series after the one game playoff. It took months, but it was an amazing ride. As compared to 2001 when they just kicked ass, continued to kick ass, kicked more ass, got tired of kicking ass and started shooting it with a high powered rifle, then went back to kicking it.
At least it’s not really emotionally stressful to watch the Mariners continuing to suck
when it just doesn’t matter anymore for this year.
they FEAR the arm of Raul.
84 – I think it was a sign that the baseball gods hate John McLaren for depriving the world of Adam Jones. In case we didn’t figure it out while losing 15 of 17.
Wow Batista is a lucky man tonight
Jon Heyman today:
“In the heat of the pennant race, some teams wilt while others catch fire. Then there’s Seattle, which is currently floating belly up in the Puget Sound”
Somewhere, probably drunk off his azz in a dive bar, a giant obese mess
of a man with a peroxide goatee is smiling.
hmmm.
should the D-Ray’s pitcher due to go friday start to worry? the last two pitchers to oppose Felix left their games needing elbow MRIs…
92: Gas Can lives? Say it ain’t so, Joe.. say it ain’t so.
Damn, it seems like Ichiro is the only Mariner capable of hitting when it manners.
Seriously…now lets see if we can actually hold the one run lead for an inning.
I think that Ichiro hit was the most predictable run-scoring base hit all year. He still looks pissed off from missing that fly ball.
96- taking bets?
Oh weird…Shannon Stewart trotting slowly to the next base…
It’s Huber time
I get the feeling I’m in here by myself.
Just trying to give you the experience of being at the game with the other 40 people.
102 – That’s what it is! Nothing like getting that experience like I’m actually at the ballpark when I’m sitting at work in Anchorage, Alaska. Its almost as if I was there!
is anyone shocked that the a’s just took the lead? nope, me either.
“In the heat of the pennant race, some teams wilt while others catch fire. Then there’s Seattle, which is currently floating belly up in the Puget Sound”
Aren’t there five Makah tribal members in jail for that?
That’s why I wanted to take a bet with #96. Really shocker there.
why not let Huber finish the inning? nice, fresh, Huber?
The difference between you watching alone and the 40 fans watching the game in person is that your beer is significantly cheaper and better.
107- That would make sense. So of course it doesn’t happen.
wonder if Kurt Suzuki’s puka shells have the same power as the titanium necklaces the other guys wear.
108- It’s a good thing (or perhaps, now that I think about it, a bad thing) I’m at work or I would have passed out from excessive drinking a long time ago.
c’mon Vidro, let’s go window shopping with Lauren!
Those Southwest commercials should have a little disclaimer (”Don’t dress too sexy!”)
Can Yuni come up big?
Nope
Wait, can someone remind me why I am not drinking alcohol tonight?
Issue raised in 116 has been resolved with Hoegaarden.
#113– I’ve been entertained by the old Southwest ads that have been surfacing …
Pinch hitting Jeremy Reed, isn’t that an oxymoron? Shouldn’t it be pinch-outing?
I just got back to the computer. Was there a good reason not to bring JJ in for the bases loaded in the 7th? Does he even bother to come to the park anymore? He’d get a better view of the game from a big screen.
Oh fuck yeah.
Don’t brush me back, you SOB. Love, Adam.
ADAM FUCKING JONES YEAH!
Finally something to get excited about!
adam fucking jones, everyone.
Who is this Jones kid?
Adam Jones!! Revenge for the chin music!
Dave, DMZ, or others, what would you expect of the 2008 Mariners if (GM questions aside), they got rid of everyone else in the rotation except Felix (granted, there are some big contracts they would have to eat or trade), and stuck four youngsters, ideally guys making the MLB minimum, under the team’s control for 2-3 years, in slots 2-5 in the rotation, and then spent some money getting a couple of big bats…? I’m not so much asking what the actual likelihood would be of the M’s doing this, I’m more curious whether any recent GMs have tried this, and what the results were?
I just want to point out that McLaren, who got all testy when asked if he’d find more playing time for Jones and said that if he got hits and forced the issue, is now obligated to get him a start under that logic.
what was that Mac said about being forced to play AJ?
120: uh, do you even have to ask? john mclaren saves JJ for the SAVE SITUATION. DO NOT QUESTION HIM.
No recent GMs have done it. No one has four youngsters under team control they can put into a rotation.
Hmm AJ comes in, baseball gods smile on us. Coincidence?
“I’d like to play him a little more,” the manager said. “I just really haven’t had the opportunity. We’re trying to go with guys who have been doing it, going with the experience. (But) if he gets hot, it’s going to be tough to take him out of there.”
127… your way is new, and innovative, and therefore rejected.
Adam Jones cannot be denied.
DMZ, what about the Yankees next year with Hughes, Chamberlain, Kennedy, Clippard? That’s just a possibility, as I doubt they want Clippard back up at this point and I don’t know if they’ll move Chamberlain to the rotation after what he’s done so far in the bullpen, but it could theoretically work yeah?
Uhhhh… sure, theoretically you could put a whole team of rookies out there if you wanted. There’s a reason no one does it, though.
Whatever that last sentence is supposed to say, I would say AJ cut through to the meaning of it.
Fun fact: Bloomquist still has more extra-base hits than Jones.
can JJ pick up the phone at the other end, and ask nicely to come in?
Start Jones, you bastards, small sample size be damned.
OMG PUTZ USED IN TIE GAME AT HOME!!!
THANK YOU MAC
After I typed my idea about the four youngsters and hit the “submit comment” button, some names unfortunately starting coming to mind…Ken Cloude, Dave Fleming…maybe you’re right, DMZ.
I would be happy with a rookie manager.
Ken Cloude was the shit for the first five innings of his career.
Well of course I understand why you wouldn’t put a whole team of rookies out there, I was just using them as an example because it seemed like you were saying there wasn’t a team out there that had four viable SP options that are young and under team control for a long period of time.
142, you excluded a much needed ‘1′ after your exclamation marks.
That said — why take Jones out? Why not put Johnson in for Ibanez, and put Jones in left? You’re not going to take the offensive hit for another inning at least, but you…
sigh.
The latest reason I heard to let the vets play was that three of them are naering 100 RBI.
Eh.
Yeah, there’s a reason no one runs out a team of all rookies. But in recent years the teams in Florida have been getting mighty close.
He’s a real thinker, that Mac.
Especially with the expanded rosters it makes even more sense to put Jones in left. Then you can get real fancy and do another switch with Joh AND Clement on the bench.
Oooooh, right, Ibanez is up in the bottom of the 9th, so you’d have to consider that you might be PH for Johnson, or… hmmm. That wasn’t as neat a swap as it looked.
Campillo should start for HoRam.
He had a 1.000 WHIP in 2005 with an infinite ERA+!
His ERA+ dropped off to 191 this year, but that’s still marginal.
I believe Yuni has more game-winning hits than anyone else on the team….
3 wins in 18 games, paaaaaaaaaarty!
And, if only for one night, there was dancing and singing in Mariner land.
and a be-thumped Yuni.
Woo hoo, this could be a start to a 18 game win streak! Jk, but they won, not that it matters.
Well, it was better than a sharp stick in the eye…
Mac on Sexson:
“If we get things going he would like to contribute somewhere, somehow, sometime,” McLaren said. “He’s always been that way. I do appreciate that about the veteran players wanting to get back out there.”
161- mmmmm, Mac can’t get enough of that veteran goodness. Most likely he’ll throw Sexson in some tight spot and he’ll strike out or ground out. If the Mariners went 18-0 in their last few games, and the playoffs were on the line, He would probably choose Sexson over Jones in the lineup and waste ABs. Not that that would ever happen of course…..
127 – Next year The Twins could pull this off if they re-sign Johan and throw in Garza, Boof, Liriano, and Baker/Slowey. They would have best rotations in the majors if Liriano returns strong and the other pitchers show progress.
The Yankees have enough young talented pitchers to do this, but they have so much salary locked up in veterans, and no need to free up salary, that theres no way they’d even try this.
The Devil Rays could put together a great young staff of Kazmir, Shields, Sonnanstine, Wade Davis, Hellickson, McGee, the list goes on
The As already have no one over 26 in their rotation, and no starters devouring payroll… One problem, their number 1/2 Harden can’t stay healthy.
Marlins? They already tried this strategy throwing in youngsters with Dontrelle. The problem is they don’t have an ace to make it work. Vanden Hurk, Sanchez, Johnson, Nolasco, Volstad, etc. take your pick could make an above average rotation (if they had an ace).
I would much rather rely on good pitching then good hitting, though. How about trading Horacio and Weaver to the Pirates? (they wanted matt morris right?) Then paying the big bucks to pick up some major league pitchers, and then fill in the roster spots we had to trade away with young hitters. None of the current division leaders allowed more than 666 Runs while we have given up 733.
Well enough rosterbation… actually, there is plenty of time for this now that the season is over.
Stop rosterbating. And they can’t trade a pitcher (Weaver) who will be a free agent…