Comments on: Ryan leaves Twins, no effect on Mariners

By: Mr. Egaas

Mr. Egaas — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:49:04 +0000

3) Bizarre fealties to weak slap hitters — Denny Hocking, Pat Meares, Luis Rivas, Cristian Guzman, Nick Punto, Jason Tyner. (This actually goes all the way back to guys like Randy Bush and Gene Larkin, who got way more playing time than their talent warranted because their were “Twins types of players.”)

Part of this perhaps had to do with playing in the Metrodome.

By: joser

joser — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:25:57 +0000

I can’t speak for DMZ, but his position would make a lot of sense with no source, and the only specific reason being that if the M’s ownership hired and fired and ran the team in a rational fashion, a metric fuckload of other decisions would’ve made differently. With that context, the fact that it seems reasonable, or at least possible, that Bavasi won’t be back next year is itself a good reason to expect he will be.

By: Hawksfan53

Hawksfan53 — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:21:14 +0000

DMZ, can you give us a specific reason, or a source, as to why you so firmly believe Bavasi will be back next year? I’m just not so convinced, and I hope you’re wrong.

By: Mr. Egaas

Mr. Egaas — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:14:30 +0000

I, and I think everybody would be curious to see what Ryan could do with a bigger bankroll.

By: Thom Jimsen

Thom Jimsen — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:13:39 +0000

The Twins under Ryan, as I’ll remember, have a far more distinct personality than other teams. I’ve always associated them with:

1) Smart, aggressive farm-system development. (For a time, it seemed that they were bleeding Quad-A outfielders — Brian Buchanan, Chad Allen, Mike Ryan, Michael Restovich, all the way back to Butch Huskey)

2) Unwillingness to be dragged into premum free-agent bidding wars, even to retain their own

By: drjeff

drjeff — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:34:38 +0000

68, I think Evan is talking about the number of teams who would post a win-loss record similar to the winner of the ‘06 NL Central as opposed to the number of teams who post a record similar to the ‘01 M’s, who won at a .716 clip.

By: Colm

Colm — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:14:09 +0000

Evan: Eh?

Do you want to type that last paragraph again, because I don’t understand clearly what you mean.

By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:53:59 +0000

62 – Making the playoffs is a lousy measure of success, because whether you succeed or fail is largely based on the strength of the other teams you your division.

Making the playoffs in the 2006 NL Central is something roughly half of all teams could do, while making the playoffs in the 2001 AL West is something usually only one team in all of baseball is good enough to manage in any given year.

By: C. Cheetah

C. Cheetah — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:58:57 +0000

Re: 65
With the acquisitions on Parrish and R. White, the future does not look to bright either…

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:42:28 +0000

re 64

I think a simpler explanation than “the front office was being cheap” is that “the front office is being incompetent.”