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		<title>By: beckya57</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238501</link>
		<dc:creator>beckya57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked Stone&#039;s column too, and, following on yesterday&#039;s post about Dodgers veterans, he notes that the M&#039;s and Dodgers are 2 of the 3 high-spending teams that aren&#039;t going to the post-season.  Not much of a mystery there: veterans are expensive, and if you load up your roster with them and then they don&#039;t produce, what you have is a very expensive also-ran team.  This is not unlike Tom Boswell&#039;s &quot;California Malingerers&quot; that I cited yesterday in the veterans&#039; post.  (He was referring to the California Angels&#039; teams of the late &#039;90&#039;s, which had lots of very expensive free agent stars, but went absolutely nowhere.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked Stone&#8217;s column too, and, following on yesterday&#8217;s post about Dodgers veterans, he notes that the M&#8217;s and Dodgers are 2 of the 3 high-spending teams that aren&#8217;t going to the post-season.  Not much of a mystery there: veterans are expensive, and if you load up your roster with them and then they don&#8217;t produce, what you have is a very expensive also-ran team.  This is not unlike Tom Boswell&#8217;s &#8220;California Malingerers&#8221; that I cited yesterday in the veterans&#8217; post.  (He was referring to the California Angels&#8217; teams of the late &#8217;90&#8217;s, which had lots of very expensive free agent stars, but went absolutely nowhere.)</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238500</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;John Hickey is seriously advocating trading for Barry Zito? In what world could that possibly even make sense?&lt;/i&gt;

HickeyWorld, where Zito is always desirable, Penny is always available, and the M&#039;s can &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/295564_mari12.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trade Reed for Haren&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s Hickey&#039;s World, but hopefully he&#039;s the only guy who has to live in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>John Hickey is seriously advocating trading for Barry Zito? In what world could that possibly even make sense?</i></p>
<p>HickeyWorld, where Zito is always desirable, Penny is always available, and the M&#8217;s can <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/295564_mari12.html" rel="nofollow">trade Reed for Haren</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Hickey&#8217;s World, but hopefully he&#8217;s the only guy who has to live in it.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238499</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving credit where credit is due: I saw the link to that story posted by &quot;jlc&quot; at the end of &lt;a href=&quot;http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/15/game-147-devil-rays-at-mariners/#comment-236606&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this game thread&lt;/a&gt;, which also features a link to a similar story about Sexson: 
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The tendinitis in his left hamstring, which was diagnosed this week [Sept 14], may have been lingering since July. It has robbed him of his power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving credit where credit is due: I saw the link to that story posted by &#8220;jlc&#8221; at the end of <a href="http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/15/game-147-devil-rays-at-mariners/#comment-236606" rel="nofollow">this game thread</a>, which also features a link to a similar story about Sexson: </p>
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The tendinitis in his left hamstring, which was diagnosed this week [Sept 14], may have been lingering since July. It has robbed him of his power.
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238498</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting to the party late, but...what?

John Hickey is seriously advocating trading for Barry Zito? In what world could that possibly even make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting to the party late, but&#8230;what?</p>
<p>John Hickey is seriously advocating trading for Barry Zito? In what world could that possibly even make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: John in L.A.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238497</link>
		<dc:creator>John in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>119 - &quot;The point is that any competent actor (and a lot of incompetent ones) could take the exact quote you got and give two entirely different readings from them. One of them would match your interpretation, one would be entirely different. The statement that you’re so very sure about is, at best, an ambiguous one.&quot;

You think that since an actor can read a line different ways that means that the words themselves have no meaning? 

But why would I care what an actor would mean? I was talking about what Raul meant. He chose to say something and chose a specific way to say it. 

Does a photograph mean nothing because someone could turn it pink with photoshop?

And putting all that aside... you rely on actors to tell you what something means? Because if you don&#039;t then who cares how they interpret it? And if you do, then... ouch. 

For your second point... That would be lovely if I got to make the decision. You seem to be confusing what the organization should do and what I, as a fan, should discuss. I don&#039;t have anything to do with the former, and the latter shouldn&#039;t really concern you, I wouldn&#039;t think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>119 &#8211; &#8220;The point is that any competent actor (and a lot of incompetent ones) could take the exact quote you got and give two entirely different readings from them. One of them would match your interpretation, one would be entirely different. The statement that you’re so very sure about is, at best, an ambiguous one.&#8221;</p>
<p>You think that since an actor can read a line different ways that means that the words themselves have no meaning? </p>
<p>But why would I care what an actor would mean? I was talking about what Raul meant. He chose to say something and chose a specific way to say it. </p>
<p>Does a photograph mean nothing because someone could turn it pink with photoshop?</p>
<p>And putting all that aside&#8230; you rely on actors to tell you what something means? Because if you don&#8217;t then who cares how they interpret it? And if you do, then&#8230; ouch. </p>
<p>For your second point&#8230; That would be lovely if I got to make the decision. You seem to be confusing what the organization should do and what I, as a fan, should discuss. I don&#8217;t have anything to do with the former, and the latter shouldn&#8217;t really concern you, I wouldn&#8217;t think.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Livengood</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238496</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Livengood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colm: From what I&#039;ve heard (I haven&#039;t seen enough of Wlad to form a first-hand opinion), he is more of a pull hitter than Guillen, whose spray chart actually shows him hitting more outfield balls to the center (LCF to RCF) region that left.  It also shows Guillen hits breaking balls for better average than fastballs, which tells me he isn&#039;t a dead-pull hitter.  Balls hit in the infield (which I would argue are balls he probably hit less well, or was fooled on) - yeah, he tends to pull.  He&#039;s not a pull hitter like, say, Lopez or Johjima, who hit more balls on the ground and to the outfield (Lopez 47% of balls in play; Johjima 50%) than almost all other places combined.

I don&#039;t know why exactly, but I am under the impression that Balantien is more like Lopez/Johjima than Guillen.  A matter of degree?  Probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colm: From what I&#8217;ve heard (I haven&#8217;t seen enough of Wlad to form a first-hand opinion), he is more of a pull hitter than Guillen, whose spray chart actually shows him hitting more outfield balls to the center (LCF to RCF) region that left.  It also shows Guillen hits breaking balls for better average than fastballs, which tells me he isn&#8217;t a dead-pull hitter.  Balls hit in the infield (which I would argue are balls he probably hit less well, or was fooled on) &#8211; yeah, he tends to pull.  He&#8217;s not a pull hitter like, say, Lopez or Johjima, who hit more balls on the ground and to the outfield (Lopez 47% of balls in play; Johjima 50%) than almost all other places combined.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why exactly, but I am under the impression that Balantien is more like Lopez/Johjima than Guillen.  A matter of degree?  Probably.</p>
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		<title>By: zugzwang</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238495</link>
		<dc:creator>zugzwang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ at 102: 

I agree that the player has to come clean, and, given the quotes Joser dug up, it sounds like Raul was not entirely forthcoming, which of course screws the team and the fans.  On the other hand, it sounds like it was brutally clear in the depths of his slump that his mechanics were impaired.  Why, oh why, would McLaren keep sending him up there?  Since when is swinging the bat repeatedly the best way to heal a shoulder injury, and if it is, isn&#039;t the place to do that in Tacoma on a rehab stint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ at 102: </p>
<p>I agree that the player has to come clean, and, given the quotes Joser dug up, it sounds like Raul was not entirely forthcoming, which of course screws the team and the fans.  On the other hand, it sounds like it was brutally clear in the depths of his slump that his mechanics were impaired.  Why, oh why, would McLaren keep sending him up there?  Since when is swinging the bat repeatedly the best way to heal a shoulder injury, and if it is, isn&#8217;t the place to do that in Tacoma on a rehab stint?</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238494</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; What exactly was your point? You don’t think different words mean different things? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The point is that any competent actor (and a lot of incompetent ones) could take the exact quote you got and give two entirely different readings from them. One of them would match your interpretation, one would be entirely different. The statement that you&#039;re so very sure about is, at best, an ambiguous one.

Another point is that folks are spending an awful lot of time over interpreting what a player means when that meaning is irrelevant--you may massage his ego, but you move him to where he will do the best for the team. Just like you place or cast an actor, who have rather large egos themselves, to where the production will do best---you just don&#039;t spend a lot of time worrying about how he&#039;ll take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> What exactly was your point? You don’t think different words mean different things? </p></blockquote>
<p>The point is that any competent actor (and a lot of incompetent ones) could take the exact quote you got and give two entirely different readings from them. One of them would match your interpretation, one would be entirely different. The statement that you&#8217;re so very sure about is, at best, an ambiguous one.</p>
<p>Another point is that folks are spending an awful lot of time over interpreting what a player means when that meaning is irrelevant&#8211;you may massage his ego, but you move him to where he will do the best for the team. Just like you place or cast an actor, who have rather large egos themselves, to where the production will do best&#8212;you just don&#8217;t spend a lot of time worrying about how he&#8217;ll take it.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238493</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>81:  Scraps - well put point on Bernie Williams.  Winning is about putting your best combination of guys on the field to maximize your chances -- not about whether or not you piss off the perceived &quot;class acts&quot; in your organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>81:  Scraps &#8211; well put point on Bernie Williams.  Winning is about putting your best combination of guys on the field to maximize your chances &#8212; not about whether or not you piss off the perceived &#8220;class acts&#8221; in your organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/09/25/off-day-reflection-columns/comment-page-3/#comment-238492</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Inning is better, but minorleaguesplits is still my first reflex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Inning is better, but minorleaguesplits is still my first reflex.</p>
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