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		<title>By: HamNasty</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/10/13/cleveland-v-boston/comment-page-2/#comment-241317</link>
		<dc:creator>HamNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny Lofton perpetuating the Veteran Grit Myth.</description>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Indians come back against the Red Sox and go to the WS, Buck will be wearing his &quot;I miss anybody I&#039;ve ever heard of&quot; pin.  Though that won&#039;t stop him: during the last game, he actually called Sizemore &quot;the Indian&#039;s Derek Jeter.&quot;

Buck and all the other Jeterfelators need to grow eyes. If you&#039;re a fan of baseball, you have to love watching Tulowitzki.  He gets to balls Jeter wouldn&#039;t even break his crouch for because they are obviously so far out of his zone.  Tulowitzki in his rookie season already has an &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070429&amp;content_id=1937361&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;unassisted triple-play&lt;/a&gt; (only the 13th in the history of the game) and he probably would&#039;ve had another one last night if Matsui hadn&#039;t got in the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Indians come back against the Red Sox and go to the WS, Buck will be wearing his &#8220;I miss anybody I&#8217;ve ever heard of&#8221; pin.  Though that won&#8217;t stop him: during the last game, he actually called Sizemore &#8220;the Indian&#8217;s Derek Jeter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Buck and all the other Jeterfelators need to grow eyes. If you&#8217;re a fan of baseball, you have to love watching Tulowitzki.  He gets to balls Jeter wouldn&#8217;t even break his crouch for because they are obviously so far out of his zone.  Tulowitzki in his rookie season already has an <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070429&amp;content_id=1937361&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">unassisted triple-play</a> (only the 13th in the history of the game) and he probably would&#8217;ve had another one last night if Matsui hadn&#8217;t got in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and on that note, I wonder if Joe Buck will be wearing his &quot;I MISS DEREK JETER&quot; pin on his lapel for Game 1 of the World Series?! :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and on that note, I wonder if Joe Buck will be wearing his &#8220;I MISS DEREK JETER&#8221; pin on his lapel for Game 1 of the World Series?! <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, imagine that...the Rox are getting it done without any of those time-honored intangibles that every &quot;great&quot; team needs -- i.e. veteran goodness, whining prima donnas, media-toady superstars whom the Fox guys can have a big man-crush over, etc., etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, imagine that&#8230;the Rox are getting it done without any of those time-honored intangibles that every &#8220;great&#8221; team needs &#8212; i.e. veteran goodness, whining prima donnas, media-toady superstars whom the Fox guys can have a big man-crush over, etc., etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad to me the number of players, who have either played for the M&#039;s or were jettisoned from the farm system, who are playing this October.  

It&#039;s good to see them doing well but we sure let a lot of fine players go just to see them play well for others.  JoeJessica is having a fine post season series.  Many &#039;better&#039; players have totally tanked in the post season and he steps up to deliver night after night.

I&#039;m pulling for the Rockies for many reasons not the least of which their vote of shares to Coolbaugh&#039;s widow.  A classy bunch of players who are sticking together despite a resounding lack of battling, war something or another and too many rookies. 

ps.  I really had to ignore the posting promise.  I&#039;m sure this adds nothing...sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad to me the number of players, who have either played for the M&#8217;s or were jettisoned from the farm system, who are playing this October.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see them doing well but we sure let a lot of fine players go just to see them play well for others.  JoeJessica is having a fine post season series.  Many &#8216;better&#8217; players have totally tanked in the post season and he steps up to deliver night after night.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pulling for the Rockies for many reasons not the least of which their vote of shares to Coolbaugh&#8217;s widow.  A classy bunch of players who are sticking together despite a resounding lack of battling, war something or another and too many rookies. </p>
<p>ps.  I really had to ignore the posting promise.  I&#8217;m sure this adds nothing&#8230;sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: HamNasty</title>
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		<dc:creator>HamNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>71- Great post and true.  Here are 5 more reasons that I am sure just missed your top 10.

11. Trying to watch Joe Buck and Tim McCarver announce a Rockies World Series win over the Red Sox when they only know Rockies names yet nothing about them.  We could see FOX reach broadcastings all time worst.

12. They were predicted to finish last is what was suppose to be the worst division in baseball.

13. I am from Colorado (was at Game 3 NLCS) and could see a World Series game.  I bit selfish but I really only had 4 other reasons to root for them.

14. Their post season pitching staff is a Canadian, a Pirate reject, and 2 kids who started pitching at MLB level in August. 

15. 25 of 26 to finish a season would never happen again in our lifetimes.  On top of the fact they had a 4.2 percent chance at the playoffs on September 28th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71- Great post and true.  Here are 5 more reasons that I am sure just missed your top 10.</p>
<p>11. Trying to watch Joe Buck and Tim McCarver announce a Rockies World Series win over the Red Sox when they only know Rockies names yet nothing about them.  We could see FOX reach broadcastings all time worst.</p>
<p>12. They were predicted to finish last is what was suppose to be the worst division in baseball.</p>
<p>13. I am from Colorado (was at Game 3 NLCS) and could see a World Series game.  I bit selfish but I really only had 4 other reasons to root for them.</p>
<p>14. Their post season pitching staff is a Canadian, a Pirate reject, and 2 kids who started pitching at MLB level in August. </p>
<p>15. 25 of 26 to finish a season would never happen again in our lifetimes.  On top of the fact they had a 4.2 percent chance at the playoffs on September 28th.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071014&amp;content_id=2265905&amp;vkey=ps2007news&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Torrealba comes up big in big games&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

oh, see, &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; was the problem. He just never had any big games to step up in here....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071014&amp;content_id=2265905&amp;vkey=ps2007news&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Torrealba comes up big in big games&#8221;</a></p>
<p>oh, see, <em>that</em> was the problem. He just never had any big games to step up in here&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[snerk]

Manager Bob Melvin says he will start Jeff Cirillo at second base for Monday&#039;s Game 4 of the NLCS. Cirillo is starting over Augie Ojeda in an effort to ignite the Diamondbacks&#039; stagnant offense.</description>
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<p>Manager Bob Melvin says he will start Jeff Cirillo at second base for Monday&#8217;s Game 4 of the NLCS. Cirillo is starting over Augie Ojeda in an effort to ignite the Diamondbacks&#8217; stagnant offense.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of Spike Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ghost of Spike Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoeJessica NLCS Game 3 hero? Wow. Did not see that one coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeJessica NLCS Game 3 hero? Wow. Did not see that one coming.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>81:  Bingo -- it IS Florida, but to a lesser degree. IMHO (as well as a little personal experience -- having lived for a while myself in Vegas, which has a lot of the same issues), the piss-poor attendance of the FL &amp; AZ teams can largely be blamed on the following:

1) A largely transient population -- including many recent transplants from other parts of the country;

2) A large number of retirees on fixed incomes, many of which cannot afford to go to major league sports games on a regular basis;

3) A large number of &quot;snowbirds&quot; (i.e. winter-dwellers) who return to northern states for the summer months. 

This, to a large degree, accounts for why you sometimes hear things like &quot;well, they only show up when the Yanks, Red Sox,  Mets, or Cubs are in town&quot; or &quot;geez, there were bigger crowds here during spring training&quot; in regards to those teams.  

You&#039;re right...Chase/BOB is a very nice ballpark.  I got to see a D-Backs-Astros game down there back in &#039;98 -- when it was about 108 outside and a nice cool 78 in!  Ironically, there was a pretty good crowd on hand that day; perhaps the &quot;newness&quot; of the place hadn&#039;t worn off yet.  Sadly, it seems like the better that team has played over the years, the worse their attendance has gotten.  

With all due respect to D-Back &quot;Nation&quot;, one could almost question the existence of ANY of the four major-league sports franchises in Phoenix, since none of them have done particularly well from an attendance standpoint over the years (except for, perhaps, the Suns -- who&#039;ve been there longer than anybody else).  I know I&#039;m probably gonna get flamed by some passionate D-Backs/Cards/Suns/Coyotes fan for saying so...but just like Florida, major league sports simply could not resist the potential cash cow they saw in growing population numbers -- and didn&#039;t realize that, strangely enough, it turned out to be one of the least passionate sports markets in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>81:  Bingo &#8212; it IS Florida, but to a lesser degree. IMHO (as well as a little personal experience &#8212; having lived for a while myself in Vegas, which has a lot of the same issues), the piss-poor attendance of the FL &amp; AZ teams can largely be blamed on the following:</p>
<p>1) A largely transient population &#8212; including many recent transplants from other parts of the country;</p>
<p>2) A large number of retirees on fixed incomes, many of which cannot afford to go to major league sports games on a regular basis;</p>
<p>3) A large number of &#8220;snowbirds&#8221; (i.e. winter-dwellers) who return to northern states for the summer months. </p>
<p>This, to a large degree, accounts for why you sometimes hear things like &#8220;well, they only show up when the Yanks, Red Sox,  Mets, or Cubs are in town&#8221; or &#8220;geez, there were bigger crowds here during spring training&#8221; in regards to those teams.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right&#8230;Chase/BOB is a very nice ballpark.  I got to see a D-Backs-Astros game down there back in &#8216;98 &#8212; when it was about 108 outside and a nice cool 78 in!  Ironically, there was a pretty good crowd on hand that day; perhaps the &#8220;newness&#8221; of the place hadn&#8217;t worn off yet.  Sadly, it seems like the better that team has played over the years, the worse their attendance has gotten.  </p>
<p>With all due respect to D-Back &#8220;Nation&#8221;, one could almost question the existence of ANY of the four major-league sports franchises in Phoenix, since none of them have done particularly well from an attendance standpoint over the years (except for, perhaps, the Suns &#8212; who&#8217;ve been there longer than anybody else).  I know I&#8217;m probably gonna get flamed by some passionate D-Backs/Cards/Suns/Coyotes fan for saying so&#8230;but just like Florida, major league sports simply could not resist the potential cash cow they saw in growing population numbers &#8212; and didn&#8217;t realize that, strangely enough, it turned out to be one of the least passionate sports markets in the country.</p>
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