So Fukudome would be able to move to DH while Reed would play left or right field. And heck, Fukudome was a decent outfielder in Japan throughout his whole career there anyways.

Lest we forget too that Reed did lead the PCL in hitting this year, so he could end up in an every day lineup still someday.

Note I said “if”… but we’re discussing a team that thinks “Hey, we’re very close to 90 wins!” as opposed to “Hey! Our run differential’s very similar to last year, when we were under .500. Maybe we should rethink this”.

I’m not going to lie though, I’m wondering why any of the Seattle beat writers haven’t talked ONCE about Kosuke Fukudome being a viable possibility for outfield. Because I think he’d be a very successful doubles hitter in this park.

I think Fukudome is probably a .290/.380/.450 hitter at Safeco- basically Johnny Damon with a few more walks and XBH and less stolen bases.

That being saidm I think it’s going to be VERY hard to pry Raul out of LF if Guillen doesn’t come back, especially with Vidro still being the putative DH, and I don’t see that the team thinks “Hey, Raul and Richie’s defense was a BIIIIG problem”… so Fukudome doesn’t make sense when they aren’t bringing back Guillen to start with (I assume to make big offers to guys like Carlos Silva).

berm – I think that if they offer arbitration, and the player agrees to it, they’re on the hook for whatever the salary outcome is for one year.

It’s for something like 1/6th the salary, and even if the M’s WON arbitration, he’d still get a raise from what he made last year. You don’t get salary cuts in arbitration on 3/4/5/6 year players- it’s just not designed that way.

There’s really no reason to keep HoRam under team control and making millions, other than a desire to prove Mariner management didn’t screw up another roster decision. It would be better to cut bait and move on to other players.

Can’t they just cut him if he goes to arbitration and they don’t like the award?

Otherwise, I agree that it’s crazy to give him what he’ll earn in arbitration, and I don’t think Seattle will do that. That would be insanity.

He’s arbitration eligible this year, and due to make millions. Keeping him on the roster under THOSE circumstances, especially it’s easy to pick up replacement-level talent, would be silly. The M’s should decline arbitration and say “You’re welcome to come to spring training if you can’t find other work”. Let some other team guarantee a bigtime salary.

Also, from LaRue’s article:

They already have their outfield tentatively set for next year – Raul Ibañez, Ichiro Suzuki and Adam Jones. And with Richie Sexson still a one-man logjam at first base, the team will likely try to find at-bats for Ben Broussard in the outfield.

Guillen did everything Seattle could have asked, and it’s tough seeing a left-handed bat leave the Mariners’ lineup. It just doesn’t seem to be a fit for 2008 and beyond.

Two comments:

- If this is the Mariner thinking for the offseason, it has FAIL stamped all over it. Raul and Broussard as outfielders? Sexson as the primary 1B? Aaaaargh.

- Shouldn’t the beat writer for the team be able to figure out one of the team’s best hitters and potential free agents is a right-handed batter?

Unless the Cubs get their ownership situation straightened out in a hurry — with owners who have all sorts of money to burn right out of the gate — they’ll largely be sitting out the free-agent offseason, I would think.

I think there’s a fair chance, actually, that NOBODY signs him. On Boras’ stated terms, anyway. It won’t be collusion as much as a gun-shy offseason in which there’s nobody else to artificially lift up the market — no Barry Zitos or Alfonos Sorianos or Carlos Lees.

I wonder if Larry LaRue was okay with letting Carlos Guillen go for nothing? Or Jeremy Reed, the major haul from the Freddy Garcia trade? Maybe hanging on to Jeff Cirillo for a few more seasons would have eased the sting from seeing Brian Fuentes pitch in the postseason. “History of winning” … Jesus wept, Makes one despair if people will EVER see past pitching wins and losses to what really is.

WRT the ownership question, as #48 notes Lincoln and Armstrong are not owners. If you think the Seattle situation is undesirable, just imagine working for Angelos, or Steinbrenner until recently, or or Vince Naimoli when he controlled the Rays.

But the real reason Ramirez is still here is that he’s a living, breathing pitcher with a history of winning.

Well, the real reason he’s still here is because Seattle doesn’t have another productive body to make it worthwhile to boot him off the 40-man, which is a pretty damning indictment of the front office.

I love how LaRue argues that Seattle can’t let him go for nothing, as though teams will be lining up to offer something for him if the M’s let it slip that he’s on the market.