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		<title>By: manny ortez</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242863</link>
		<dc:creator>manny ortez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41, I&#039;m not a lawyer, but I am a law student and I can&#039;t see why an employer shouldn&#039;t have the right to punish its employees for illegal conduct. If a player got caught, say, shoplifting, or using cocaine, shouldn&#039;t MLB be able to punish him even though there isn&#039;t an explicit MLB rule against it? NFL players are frequently disciplined for criminal convictions, or even just charges. The caveat to this, of course, is that the player&#039;s union&#039;s lawyers are way, way better than a first-year law student!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41, I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but I am a law student and I can&#8217;t see why an employer shouldn&#8217;t have the right to punish its employees for illegal conduct. If a player got caught, say, shoplifting, or using cocaine, shouldn&#8217;t MLB be able to punish him even though there isn&#8217;t an explicit MLB rule against it? NFL players are frequently disciplined for criminal convictions, or even just charges. The caveat to this, of course, is that the player&#8217;s union&#8217;s lawyers are way, way better than a first-year law student!</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242839</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why, it is just crazy talk in Crasnick&#039;s ESPN column:

&quot;&quot;Teams have been moving in that direction for a while,&quot; said David Forst, Oakland&#039;s assistant GM. &quot;It&#039;s not a new phenomenon. But when Cleveland and Boston have success in the playoffs with young players in pivotal roles, it certainly brings a lot of attention to the fact you can succeed that way.&quot; 

Said Kevin Towers: &quot;Maybe we give a shot to a kid in Triple-A who we think might be a half-year away from being ready. Rather than going out and spending a ton of money when you have no history with a player, you can take a kid you&#039;ve signed and developed and give him an opportunity.&quot; 

in an aside, having just tripped over the Sonics game, I am not sure what is weirder. Szczerbiak? the new look Swift? The fact it is Marques on the call with Calabro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why, it is just crazy talk in Crasnick&#8217;s ESPN column:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Teams have been moving in that direction for a while,&#8221; said David Forst, Oakland&#8217;s assistant GM. &#8220;It&#8217;s not a new phenomenon. But when Cleveland and Boston have success in the playoffs with young players in pivotal roles, it certainly brings a lot of attention to the fact you can succeed that way.&#8221; </p>
<p>Said Kevin Towers: &#8220;Maybe we give a shot to a kid in Triple-A who we think might be a half-year away from being ready. Rather than going out and spending a ton of money when you have no history with a player, you can take a kid you&#8217;ve signed and developed and give him an opportunity.&#8221; </p>
<p>in an aside, having just tripped over the Sonics game, I am not sure what is weirder. Szczerbiak? the new look Swift? The fact it is Marques on the call with Calabro?</p>
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		<title>By: Thom Jimsen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242833</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom Jimsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the reason the Gold Glove is a joke is that most Gold Glove winners win the award with their bats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the reason the Gold Glove is a joke is that most Gold Glove winners win the award with their bats.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242829</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, Adrian -- congrats! :)

With all due respect to Jimmy Rollins, though, I think Tulo may have gotten gypped this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, Adrian &#8212; congrats! <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With all due respect to Jimmy Rollins, though, I think Tulo may have gotten gypped this year.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242825</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Beltre on the (much-deserved) gold glove.  But the real news: no Jeter!  Ding, dong, the witch is dead!  Wow, NY lost its division, its coach, and its &quot;gold glove shortstop&quot; all in the same year.  The end of an era?  Or the calm before the storm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Beltre on the (much-deserved) gold glove.  But the real news: no Jeter!  Ding, dong, the witch is dead!  Wow, NY lost its division, its coach, and its &#8220;gold glove shortstop&#8221; all in the same year.  The end of an era?  Or the calm before the storm?</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242824</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ha, nice irony. I make a joke about Perlozzo on yesterday’s thread and here he is today as the third base coach.

Fantasy land time -&gt; Is it too late to convince Mazzone to come along and just pay Stottlemyre to go away? Mazzone + Felix = Good&lt;/i&gt;

Doesn&#039;t the &lt;i&gt;Basic Agreement&lt;/i&gt; limit the number of &quot;Z&quot;s you can have on your coaching staff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ha, nice irony. I make a joke about Perlozzo on yesterday’s thread and here he is today as the third base coach.</p>
<p>Fantasy land time -&gt; Is it too late to convince Mazzone to come along and just pay Stottlemyre to go away? Mazzone + Felix = Good</i></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t the <i>Basic Agreement</i> limit the number of &#8220;Z&#8221;s you can have on your coaching staff?</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stone was using Moyer&#039;s radar gun, apparently.  Was wondering where that went.  Oooh la la!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone was using Moyer&#8217;s radar gun, apparently.  Was wondering where that went.  Oooh la la!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90-92 strike thrower w/ no out pitch sounds like Baek, and not just because they come from the same continent.

If he really throws mid 90&#039;s with any semblance of control, worse come to worse you could stick him in the pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90-92 strike thrower w/ no out pitch sounds like Baek, and not just because they come from the same continent.</p>
<p>If he really throws mid 90&#8217;s with any semblance of control, worse come to worse you could stick him in the pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizz</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/11/06/tuesday-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-242807</link>
		<dc:creator>Grizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Churchill&#039;s scouting report, Kuroda sits 90-92, so the Franklin comparison may be more apt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Churchill&#8217;s scouting report, Kuroda sits 90-92, so the Franklin comparison may be more apt.</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He sounds like a #5 starter - a fringe stuff strike thrower without an out pitch. We have enough of those.&lt;/i&gt;

Stone has him as having a mid-90&#039;s fastball. Either the radar numbers are off or I suspect he has some more potential than just a #5, because your prototypical #5 strike thrower is somewhere in the 88-91 range ala Piniero or Franklin. Batista&#039;s a better example of a guy with more juice on his fastball, and he&#039;s more a 4.

I could live with Miguel Batista&#039;s Japanese cousin at the right price, I suppose. Ryan Franklin, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He sounds like a #5 starter &#8211; a fringe stuff strike thrower without an out pitch. We have enough of those.</i></p>
<p>Stone has him as having a mid-90&#8217;s fastball. Either the radar numbers are off or I suspect he has some more potential than just a #5, because your prototypical #5 strike thrower is somewhere in the 88-91 range ala Piniero or Franklin. Batista&#8217;s a better example of a guy with more juice on his fastball, and he&#8217;s more a 4.</p>
<p>I could live with Miguel Batista&#8217;s Japanese cousin at the right price, I suppose. Ryan Franklin, not so much.</p>
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