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	<title>Comments on: Mariners Close to Signing Carlos Silva</title>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-4/#comment-246422</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>152:  Yes...but you know, of course, that a DWI absolutely CANNOT be forgiven if you&#039;re a native of Venezuela.

If you&#039;re a native of Clark County, however, it&#039;s apparently a different story... :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>152:  Yes&#8230;but you know, of course, that a DWI absolutely CANNOT be forgiven if you&#8217;re a native of Venezuela.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a native of Clark County, however, it&#8217;s apparently a different story&#8230; <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-4/#comment-246181</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Remember when he stated that the team had to get younger and then he went right out and tried to trade Carlos Guillen for 137 year old Omar Visquel?&lt;/i&gt;

Thank goodness that deal fell through and he got a young guy like Ramon Santiago instead.  A great trade, in hindsight, since Santiago is now a better ss than Guillen--Carlos being relegated to 1B nowdays, and it&#039;s not like the Mariners need a 1Bperson . . . ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Remember when he stated that the team had to get younger and then he went right out and tried to trade Carlos Guillen for 137 year old Omar Visquel?</i></p>
<p>Thank goodness that deal fell through and he got a young guy like Ramon Santiago instead.  A great trade, in hindsight, since Santiago is now a better ss than Guillen&#8211;Carlos being relegated to 1B nowdays, and it&#8217;s not like the Mariners need a 1Bperson . . . <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-4/#comment-246179</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>135:  Interesting point.  If you haven&#039;t yet, check out Baseball Ref&#039;s career stats on Tommy John and Randy Jones from back in the 70&#039;s &amp; 80&#039;s -- each had a few BB/K-per-9 seasons which were mind-boggling.

Definitely NOT saying that Silva is CY/HOF material...however, he might not wind up being a total disaster, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>135:  Interesting point.  If you haven&#8217;t yet, check out Baseball Ref&#8217;s career stats on Tommy John and Randy Jones from back in the 70&#8217;s &amp; 80&#8217;s &#8212; each had a few BB/K-per-9 seasons which were mind-boggling.</p>
<p>Definitely NOT saying that Silva is CY/HOF material&#8230;however, he might not wind up being a total disaster, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaskan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-3/#comment-246126</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaskan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>146 (nathaniel),
Been following the Mariners long?  I think you&#039;ll find that a lot of the better prospects are pitchers: Tillman (4 star), Ramirez and Aumont (3 star), Rohrbaugh and Butler all made Baseball Prospectus&#039; top 11 prospects for the Mariners.  Plus Morrow&#039;s looking like decent starter material for &#039;09, if they don&#039;t rush him in this year.  I don&#039;t know what the success rate is pitching prospects, but if only 2 of the 5 from the BP list pan out in the next two or three years, I&#039;d say that&#039;s pretty good.  So, I for one am optimistic about where we could be in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>146 (nathaniel),<br />
Been following the Mariners long?  I think you&#8217;ll find that a lot of the better prospects are pitchers: Tillman (4 star), Ramirez and Aumont (3 star), Rohrbaugh and Butler all made Baseball Prospectus&#8217; top 11 prospects for the Mariners.  Plus Morrow&#8217;s looking like decent starter material for &#8216;09, if they don&#8217;t rush him in this year.  I don&#8217;t know what the success rate is pitching prospects, but if only 2 of the 5 from the BP list pan out in the next two or three years, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s pretty good.  So, I for one am optimistic about where we could be in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: badmutha</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-3/#comment-246089</link>
		<dc:creator>badmutha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we lose Adam Jones and others for Bedard, I suggest we gather together a large group of people with signs calling for the head of Bavasi and Armstrong.  They need to go.  They are destroying our future.  What&#039;s next, getting rid of Triunfel.  Even if we got Bedard, our offense would no longer be good enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we lose Adam Jones and others for Bedard, I suggest we gather together a large group of people with signs calling for the head of Bavasi and Armstrong.  They need to go.  They are destroying our future.  What&#8217;s next, getting rid of Triunfel.  Even if we got Bedard, our offense would no longer be good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: rea</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-3/#comment-246074</link>
		<dc:creator>rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you have a payroll of about $120 million, it makes no sense to commit $11 million a year for 4 years to a slightly above average starter.  Whatever would you pay for Santana, if you give Silva $11 million?

Now, if money is no object, maybe this deal makes sense . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you have a payroll of about $120 million, it makes no sense to commit $11 million a year for 4 years to a slightly above average starter.  Whatever would you pay for Santana, if you give Silva $11 million?</p>
<p>Now, if money is no object, maybe this deal makes sense . . .</p>
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		<title>By: nathaniel dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathaniel dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t see us sniffing the WC for a LONG time&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t want to be sniffing the WC for a long time either.

You guys that are hating the prospect of this deal better hope the Mariner&#039;s start developing their own starting pitchers. That&#039;s the only way to build a decent rotation without paying through the nose for either free agents or via trades. Until then, we&#039;re going to keep seeing more of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t see us sniffing the WC for a LONG time</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to be sniffing the WC for a long time either.</p>
<p>You guys that are hating the prospect of this deal better hope the Mariner&#8217;s start developing their own starting pitchers. That&#8217;s the only way to build a decent rotation without paying through the nose for either free agents or via trades. Until then, we&#8217;re going to keep seeing more of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Livengood</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-3/#comment-246032</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Livengood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cebo04 wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What misspellings?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As noted, &quot;sediment&quot; rather than &quot;sentiment.&quot;  Therefore, I couldn&#039;t resist accusing you of slinging &quot;mud&quot; when you accused people of being too negative.  Sorry . . . sort of.  No offense intended, I was just amusing myself mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cebo04 wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What misspellings?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As noted, &#8220;sediment&#8221; rather than &#8220;sentiment.&#8221;  Therefore, I couldn&#8217;t resist accusing you of slinging &#8220;mud&#8221; when you accused people of being too negative.  Sorry . . . sort of.  No offense intended, I was just amusing myself mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: 300ZXNA</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/18/mariners-close-to-signing-carlos-silva/comment-page-3/#comment-246018</link>
		<dc:creator>300ZXNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dammit, dammit, dammit.  Who else thinks that this is indeed a precursor to a &quot;gut the farm for Bedard&quot; move?  I don&#039;t trust Bavasi to do anything BUT make poor decisions anymore . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dammit, dammit, dammit.  Who else thinks that this is indeed a precursor to a &#8220;gut the farm for Bedard&#8221; move?  I don&#8217;t trust Bavasi to do anything BUT make poor decisions anymore . . .</p>
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		<title>By: cebo04</title>
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		<dc:creator>cebo04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!  Totally missed that.  I&#039;m so nervous that this is really going to happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!  Totally missed that.  I&#8217;m so nervous that this is really going to happen!</p>
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