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	<title>Comments on: Geoff Jenkins signs with Philly</title>
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		<title>By: jamesllegade</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246441</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesllegade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK... what if we sign Shawn Green, Luis Gonzalas or Trot Nixon... Trade Jones and Clement for Bedard and keep Morrow?

Then we wait for Wlad to develop... anyone one of those guys gives us lefthanded pop and a year or two of time to either develop another OF or pick one up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230; what if we sign Shawn Green, Luis Gonzalas or Trot Nixon&#8230; Trade Jones and Clement for Bedard and keep Morrow?</p>
<p>Then we wait for Wlad to develop&#8230; anyone one of those guys gives us lefthanded pop and a year or two of time to either develop another OF or pick one up.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Livengood</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246429</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Livengood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>68 - bayoumariner: Gillick certainly knows how to build a team for short-term success.  Building a team that can sustain that success?  That is more than debatable.  Look at what happened to each of those teams as / after Gillick left....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>68 &#8211; bayoumariner: Gillick certainly knows how to build a team for short-term success.  Building a team that can sustain that success?  That is more than debatable.  Look at what happened to each of those teams as / after Gillick left&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mrmitra</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246397</link>
		<dc:creator>mrmitra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been told that Jenkins wanted to stay in the NL and was only considering NL offers.  I suspect that was the reason Bavasi never really went after him.  Of course Jenkin&#039;s agent would never let something like that become public knowledge.  I do not have any proof to back up my claim however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been told that Jenkins wanted to stay in the NL and was only considering NL offers.  I suspect that was the reason Bavasi never really went after him.  Of course Jenkin&#8217;s agent would never let something like that become public knowledge.  I do not have any proof to back up my claim however.</p>
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		<title>By: bayoumariner</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246380</link>
		<dc:creator>bayoumariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillick with Jays-They win the World Series
Gillick with Baltimore-Reach ALCS.  
Gillick with Seattle-Reach ALCS twice.  GM of a team that wins 116 games.
Gillick with Philly-They reach playoffs for the first time in a decade.

Clearly the man is just lucky and has no real business in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillick with Jays-They win the World Series<br />
Gillick with Baltimore-Reach ALCS.<br />
Gillick with Seattle-Reach ALCS twice.  GM of a team that wins 116 games.<br />
Gillick with Philly-They reach playoffs for the first time in a decade.</p>
<p>Clearly the man is just lucky and has no real business in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246290</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the article was in November, not February.

what Bavasi has said than, and since then, was that they intended to get pitching first, and look for offense later, but Johjima&#039;s somewhat unexpected availablility in November (at the same time as the GM meetings) changed their focus -- is that what you mean by &#039;he fell in their lap&#039;? They still had to sign him, and despite the not very accurate &#039;club source&#039;, there was competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the article was in November, not February.</p>
<p>what Bavasi has said than, and since then, was that they intended to get pitching first, and look for offense later, but Johjima&#8217;s somewhat unexpected availablility in November (at the same time as the GM meetings) changed their focus &#8212; is that what you mean by &#8216;he fell in their lap&#8217;? They still had to sign him, and despite the not very accurate &#8216;club source&#8217;, there was competition.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisK</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246283</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40 - you&#039;re incorrect about Johjima. Read Bavasi&#039;s quotes from that offseason:

&quot;INDIAN WELLS, Calif. -- The Mariners are Kenji Jojima&#039;s first choice. He may not be theirs.

Jojima, who could become the major leagues&#039; first Japanese catcher, wants to play in Seattle next season, a club source said Thursday. The Mariners, however, are reluctant to sign him at the numbers -- three years, $16-$18 million -- floated by his representatives in recent days.

General manager Bill Bavasi has said he wants to find catching help, but has left that below pitching and left-handed power among his offseason priorities.

&quot;It&#039;s far down the list,&quot; the club source said. &quot;We have more pressing needs. To go out and get a catcher now, before signing a pitcher, wouldn&#039;t be prudent.&quot;

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/248008_mari11.html

That article was written on Feb 11, 2005. Ten days later, they signed him to a contract. He fell into Bavasi&#039;s lap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 &#8211; you&#8217;re incorrect about Johjima. Read Bavasi&#8217;s quotes from that offseason:</p>
<p>&#8220;INDIAN WELLS, Calif. &#8212; The Mariners are Kenji Jojima&#8217;s first choice. He may not be theirs.</p>
<p>Jojima, who could become the major leagues&#8217; first Japanese catcher, wants to play in Seattle next season, a club source said Thursday. The Mariners, however, are reluctant to sign him at the numbers &#8212; three years, $16-$18 million &#8212; floated by his representatives in recent days.</p>
<p>General manager Bill Bavasi has said he wants to find catching help, but has left that below pitching and left-handed power among his offseason priorities.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s far down the list,&#8221; the club source said. &#8220;We have more pressing needs. To go out and get a catcher now, before signing a pitcher, wouldn&#8217;t be prudent.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/248008_mari11.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/248008_mari11.html</a></p>
<p>That article was written on Feb 11, 2005. Ten days later, they signed him to a contract. He fell into Bavasi&#8217;s lap.</p>
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		<title>By: 300ZXNA</title>
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		<dc:creator>300ZXNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else wonder if Bavasi&#039;s thought process was something like this:

&quot;The Phillies are going to sign Jenkins to a 2 yr $13 mil contract?  Well, then good we didn&#039;t pursue him, because if he is only worth 6.5 mil per year he must really suck . . .&quot;

*sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else wonder if Bavasi&#8217;s thought process was something like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Phillies are going to sign Jenkins to a 2 yr $13 mil contract?  Well, then good we didn&#8217;t pursue him, because if he is only worth 6.5 mil per year he must really suck . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246261</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva&#039;s signing has its own post, but thanks for hijacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silva&#8217;s signing has its own post, but thanks for hijacking.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2007/12/20/geoff-jenkins-signs-with-philly/comment-page-2/#comment-246258</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know where &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/seattle-mariners.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cot&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; gets their information, but they already have Silva listed on the M&#039;s page &quot;signed as a free agent 12/20/07&quot; -- but no contract details beyond the 4/$44M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know where <a href="http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/seattle-mariners.html" rel="nofollow">Cot&#8217;s</a> gets their information, but they already have Silva listed on the M&#8217;s page &#8220;signed as a free agent 12/20/07&#8243; &#8212; but no contract details beyond the 4/$44M.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we still hope to get Ibanez out of the outfield (or if, heaven forbid, they give up Jones in a trade) who else is out there as a second choice to Jenkins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we still hope to get Ibanez out of the outfield (or if, heaven forbid, they give up Jones in a trade) who else is out there as a second choice to Jenkins?</p>
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