USSM fantasy interest ping

DMZ · January 20, 2008 at 12:27 pm · Filed Under Site information 

Hey folks — with the collapse of my long-running Diamond Mind sim league, I’ve been thinking of cooking up something on one of the free services (ESPN/Yahoo/?), using some more realistic measures (no defense, unfortunately) to set up something fairly light-weight… who’d be up for it? Any thoughts on what we should use if it happens?

(and don’t worry if we get like 9k responses — if this happens, participation would be a whole different issue)

Comments

131 Responses to “USSM fantasy interest ping”

  1. the_insider on January 20th, 2008 12:32 pm

    I also have recently lost me long time keeper league in the past year….I’m interested in finding some new competion.

  2. Mike G. on January 20th, 2008 12:32 pm

    I would definitely be up for it. It would be interesting to see what a draft would look like with USSM folk instead of the 13 year olds I usually draft against in Yahoo public leagues.

  3. aws on January 20th, 2008 12:34 pm

    I would do it. I have thought about trying something like this for a while, but I never thought I could my regular fantasy league friends into it.

  4. Sane on January 20th, 2008 12:34 pm

    I definitely would be. I was the commish of a couple fantasy leagues over on SportSpot.net for two years running. I’m alos part of a competitive 20-team dynasty. I’ve been involved in fantasy baseball for the past 3-4 years. So definitely count me in. And I’d vote for Yahoo for the format.

  5. Taylor H on January 20th, 2008 12:36 pm

    How many people would be in this league?
    In any case, that sounds really fun.

  6. Evan R. on January 20th, 2008 12:41 pm

    I don’t post often here, but this grabbed my attention immediately. I always struggle to fill even ten-team leagues, and even then half the managers abandon their teams by May. I’d love to be a part of this.

  7. sidereal on January 20th, 2008 12:45 pm

    Yeah, I’d be interested. Particularly in a keeper league. Sim would be better, natch.

    Also, how about a sister-league using negative stats? I’ve been working on a scoring system for a couple of years where the real superstars are terrible players who inexplicably get lots of playing time (strikeouts are good, low batting average is good, high ERA is good).

  8. Cap on January 20th, 2008 12:48 pm

    I’m in.

  9. Mo Vaughn Is My Hero on January 20th, 2008 12:54 pm

    I’m in too.

  10. Taylor H on January 20th, 2008 12:57 pm

    5 – that’s where HoRam comes in handy.

  11. eday on January 20th, 2008 12:57 pm

    I’m interested.

  12. Jeremy on January 20th, 2008 12:58 pm

    I’d play. I’ve been in a “for fun” league, but it would be fun to play against some better competition as well.

  13. Mattingly4Ever on January 20th, 2008 12:59 pm

    I’d be very interested.

  14. dgarnett on January 20th, 2008 1:07 pm

    I would love to play as well. Never played on ESPN, but I have commished a y! league before and there seems to be a LOT of settings to make things more USSM friendly. I can’t wait to take part in a league with no ERA or WHIP :P

  15. SethGrandpa on January 20th, 2008 1:08 pm

    I’d be down.

  16. r0ry on January 20th, 2008 1:10 pm

    I’d be down.

  17. skyking162 on January 20th, 2008 1:14 pm

    I’d be interested in a high quality, medium time commitment sim league, preferably not SOM. Fantasy-wise, I’m probably in enough leagues already, but would help fill one up if need be.

  18. AFRanger on January 20th, 2008 1:15 pm

    Count me in.

  19. Luke on January 20th, 2008 1:16 pm

    That sounds like fun to me. I’m in.

  20. Jeff Nye on January 20th, 2008 1:16 pm

    I’ll play. As long as I can draft Princess Willie.

  21. snoss on January 20th, 2008 1:17 pm

    Count me in! I look forward to potentially being in a league with people who know baseball.

  22. Carson on January 20th, 2008 1:20 pm

    A keeper league would be fantastic. More teams (20?) would be better than a small league. Much more strategy required with deep teams.

    Derek, a great idea would be some sort of entry fee where the money goes to fund the blog (or beers for it’s authors).

    This next idea might be crazy, but do we have enough local people to have a live in person draft? That would be entertaining..

  23. Mustard on January 20th, 2008 1:24 pm

    Sounds great. I would suggest Yahoo, live draft, and a limited amount of waivers for starters as it just makes thing more interesting.

  24. sidereal on January 20th, 2008 1:27 pm

    Taylor – in that league, HoRam is an MVP candidate

  25. terry on January 20th, 2008 1:27 pm

    Does the winner get a new cadillac?

  26. natebracy on January 20th, 2008 1:43 pm

    I’d be up for it, too.

  27. Tom Davis on January 20th, 2008 1:50 pm

    I’d be interested.

  28. vagabond on January 20th, 2008 1:57 pm

    I’m interested.

  29. mikelb420 on January 20th, 2008 1:57 pm

    I’m game.

  30. vj on January 20th, 2008 2:01 pm

    #5 sideareal: You do know about BPs hacking mass league?

    I’d be interested. Never done anything like this, though. So here’s a newbie to beat up.

  31. jdsc55 on January 20th, 2008 2:18 pm

    I’d definitely be interested

  32. docmwj on January 20th, 2008 2:21 pm

    I’m in…

  33. D. Birinyi on January 20th, 2008 2:21 pm

    I skipped fantasy last season, but I’ve done those dinky Yahoo leagues in the past. I could definitely stand to get back into it this season.

  34. Jared on January 20th, 2008 2:26 pm

    I’d try to

  35. Jared on January 20th, 2008 2:26 pm

    be a competitor

  36. Wood Dog on January 20th, 2008 2:30 pm

    I would love to play, but not being in the inner circle of USSM guys, I am sure I wont make the cut. That said, I’ll be happy to head the USSM JV league. Maybe we’ll go Premier League style and you can relegate your worst team into our league, and our winner will get promoted into yours.

  37. joesuperdad on January 20th, 2008 2:31 pm

    I’d be in for something… I’m no fantasy all-star, but I do enjoy it.

  38. Dayve on January 20th, 2008 2:31 pm

    First.

  39. Dayve on January 20th, 2008 2:32 pm

    Ok then, 33rd.

  40. thefin190 on January 20th, 2008 2:41 pm

    I’ll do it!

  41. Goob on January 20th, 2008 2:43 pm

    Count me in as well!

  42. lailaihei on January 20th, 2008 2:54 pm

    I’d love to!
    Nobody better take HoRam first round before I can.

  43. seadiv88 on January 20th, 2008 2:54 pm

    I’m in if it isn’t one of those leagues that whoever exchanges their SP’s with the free-agents the most, wins.

  44. Bretticus on January 20th, 2008 3:00 pm

    If there’s still room I’ll give it a try.

  45. Russ on January 20th, 2008 3:07 pm

    I’m not likely to be consistent enough to participate due to work issues. However, for various reasons, I’d love to see the results posted. Watching a fantasy league with some the mind’s here would be an interesting event. I’d bet there’d be some very predictable results.

    Even more interesting…a competitive league with the readers of USSMariner vs. the KJR listeners.

  46. todda70 on January 20th, 2008 3:09 pm

    I would be happy to partake.

  47. imfinkspa on January 20th, 2008 3:10 pm

    Unfortunately, I would have to pass as I’m plenty busy with my Scoresheet leagues (plug, really a very nice sim game). Nevertheless, I would like to track a Yahoo league with USSMariner participants. I suppose that a real rough, linear weights type formula could be used for offense and, maybe, a DIPSlight type formula for pitching. Yahoo does allow for points leagues with each category weighted differently, so it should be possible to do something that approximates actual value.

  48. Uncle Ted on January 20th, 2008 3:28 pm

    I’d love to participate, especially if it’s an auction league since i’ve never done one before.

  49. RussM on January 20th, 2008 3:46 pm

    me too!

  50. Dash on January 20th, 2008 3:46 pm

    I’d be in. Draft or Auction.

  51. earinc on January 20th, 2008 3:51 pm

    I would dig it.

  52. dlb on January 20th, 2008 3:59 pm

    I’m in.

  53. AK4Sea on January 20th, 2008 4:01 pm

    Who wouldn’t want to be in a fantasy league with the USSMariner community? The bragging rights alone would be worth solid gold.

    Definitely interested.

  54. msb on January 20th, 2008 4:11 pm

    I’d be interested. Never done anything like this, though. So here’s a newbie to beat up.

    that would be two of us.

  55. xxtinynickxx on January 20th, 2008 4:14 pm

    Yahoo is my fav., Id be down for sure. Yahoo just seems more fluid and easy to use and understand and the servers seem faster.

  56. SCL on January 20th, 2008 4:25 pm

    #36 I am all for the JV league.

  57. schneidler on January 20th, 2008 4:29 pm

    A huge YES I’d be in. Like many of you I’ve been in a more “for fun” league with friends and family for about 10 years or more. I agree with #47 completely. I’ve actually tried to get something like this off the ground before. Here is a rough idea of what values could be used, if we wanted to go that route.

    http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902event.html

    As opposed to points systems in which a stolen base is equal in value to a double or whatever.

  58. Taylor H on January 20th, 2008 4:46 pm

    In case I wasn’t clear in my earlier comment: i’m in!

  59. ooter on January 20th, 2008 4:50 pm

    I’d love to participate. It would be nice to do a league with people who follow their teams.

  60. Pete Livengood on January 20th, 2008 4:50 pm

    I would love to do this. I’ve been investigating a fantasy league myself – this would be more fun and less work (for me).

  61. forte40 on January 20th, 2008 5:14 pm

    Have been doing Yahoo for a while, love it. I’m in.

  62. kmsandrbs on January 20th, 2008 5:16 pm

    Well, I’d love to. Never done a fanatasy league so I’d be the third newbie to trash!

  63. Sane on January 20th, 2008 5:25 pm

    I would be interested if the USSM mods didn’t delete my comments stating that I’m interested. In any case, I vote for Yahoo as the format.

  64. Sane on January 20th, 2008 5:27 pm

    Re: 63 … and I must be imagining things, as now my original response is there. It was completely gone before. Oh well. Yes for USSM Fantasy Baseball, no for my confusion and multi-posting. :)

  65. katal on January 20th, 2008 5:30 pm

    I would be interested.

  66. Graham on January 20th, 2008 5:39 pm

    The British delegation would like to announce their interest.

  67. ArtfulDodger on January 20th, 2008 5:40 pm

    I have been looking for just such a thing. I checked out http://www.mendozabaseball.com but i wasn’t sold on its stats (plus it seemed a little too labor intensive). I think it would be fun to start measuring players on more stats than the typical ones.

    It looks like you have more than a league.

  68. mariners23 on January 20th, 2008 5:57 pm

    I would check it more then once a month.

  69. Rain Delay on January 20th, 2008 6:03 pm

    I’d be up for it!

  70. cebo04 on January 20th, 2008 6:04 pm

    this would be outstanding!

  71. NBarnes on January 20th, 2008 6:35 pm

    I’d be very interested.

  72. David Lippman on January 20th, 2008 6:36 pm

    Sounds good to me.

  73. Mr. Egaas on January 20th, 2008 6:51 pm

    I thought I was in a U.S.S. Mariner league last year when I joined that league named “Fire Bill Bavasi”. I guess not.

    None the less, mark me as interested.

  74. Typical Idiot Fan on January 20th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Done football before, but never baseball. I’d be hugely interested in giving this a shot.

  75. Kacidy on January 20th, 2008 7:17 pm

    love to play. newby

  76. mrmitra on January 20th, 2008 7:46 pm

    I’m all game. And yes, I’ll even keep playing til the end of the year even if my team sucks. My first three picks: Bonds, Clemens, and Tejada.

  77. Gillis27 on January 20th, 2008 8:02 pm

    I’m interested as well, I’m curious, have you ever checked out Out of the Park Baseball? I started with DMB 7 a long time ago and went to OOTP eventually. Just curious how you feel about each game if you even played OOTP.

  78. Gillis27 on January 20th, 2008 8:06 pm

    I’m also curious, what realistic measures do you feel would be good for a fantasy league? For a 5×5 or 6×6 league or what not, what categories would you use?

  79. Marcel on January 20th, 2008 8:09 pm

    Count me as interested.

  80. Stark Raving on January 20th, 2008 8:14 pm

    Yes, please…

  81. Jar on January 20th, 2008 8:18 pm

    I am very interested!

  82. ferocious_gentleman on January 20th, 2008 8:48 pm

    A few years ago I carefully devised what I thought were decent settings for Yahoo’s system. By my recollection, the highlights were:

    - I only tracked defense-independent pitching stats (BB, K, HR).

    - To prevent loading up on relievers, I gave a small but significant award for each IP, based on a realistic season inning total for the staff size. The effect would be that if you didn’t staff enough starters, you’d lose horribly in pitching by not getting enough inning points. If you ran an all-starter staff to try to win on the inning award, quality dilution would ruin you. There’s probably a better way, but that’s what I came up with at the time.

    - I had no solution for park adjustments, and couldn’t find a reasonable way to track GB% for pitchers. Those were frustrating.

    - I used a Runs Created formula (though I don’t remember which one) for offense. I went ahead and included all the little stats like GIDP and HB since Yahoo supported it.

    Ultimately, I didn’t know enough baseball geeks to use the system, but I’m certainly interested in giving a well-designed league a try.

  83. IdahoInvader on January 20th, 2008 9:10 pm

    Yahoo is DEFINITELY the way to go. ESPN can be brutal, especially for football fwiw.

    Draft day is always the most fun day imho. Not sure if it really needs to be a keeper league though.

  84. Shizane on January 20th, 2008 9:44 pm

    I am interested as well.

  85. royal curve on January 20th, 2008 9:48 pm

    another newbie throwing my hat in the ring, then going to look up how a fantasy league works.

  86. crazyray7391 on January 20th, 2008 9:50 pm

    I’d be in. I’ve been looking to get back into a fantasy league for a while now.

  87. xeifrank on January 20th, 2008 10:04 pm

    Nothing like getting some fantasy baseball mock draft practice against the computer.
    vr, Xei

  88. Agathon on January 20th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Eager to see if this takes off… :)

  89. cfolson on January 20th, 2008 10:07 pm

    I’ve been known to play fantasy sports…

  90. mremis on January 20th, 2008 10:19 pm

    I’m down

  91. weebs on January 20th, 2008 10:23 pm

    I would love to get in on this, big time.

  92. lombardie360 on January 20th, 2008 10:27 pm

    Well basically we are all very capable of creating our own league and finding 10+ teams to fill each one. why not have everyone post their level of interest on a scale of 1-5 or something (1 being very casual 5 being checking your team multiple times a day). then we could match up accordingly. This is a bit early though i think if most of us are considering yahoo as they dont have anything on the new season yet. Not even a date as to when sign ups start.

  93. Boy9988 on January 20th, 2008 10:42 pm

    I would be very very interested in participating. I have been playing in one time only leagues for years and keep owning people. Last year in Yahoo I won 140-62 in head to head games. It would be nice to have some real competition. Im commish of a Yahoo league this year and i have played fox, espn, and mlb.com formats. If we arn’t going to use a payed mlb.com league, I recommend yahoo.

    #45 What if we are USS Mariner readers and KJR listeners.
    Faithful member of the 40 and a half.

  94. BobbyRoberto on January 20th, 2008 11:02 pm

    I run a league that uses OBP, SLG, R, RBI, NET-STEALS for hitters and W, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, NET-SAVES for pitchers. It’s not totally sabermetric but it’s better than traditional. What categories are people thinking of using?

  95. milendriel on January 21st, 2008 12:34 am

    I want to play. Games are fun.

    It’d have to be Head to Head though. Roto is garbage.

  96. hub on January 21st, 2008 12:53 am

    If anyone is in search of another Diamond Mind Sim-League, we have a couple spots that just opened up in our 24-team full-keeper.

  97. Boy9988 on January 21st, 2008 2:15 am

    #96

    hey hub, I’d like in! What do i do?

  98. galaxieboi on January 21st, 2008 8:21 am

    I played in a live auction keeper league for years uptil 5 years or so ago. TONS of fun. If USSM (or anyone else in Seattle) wants to do something like that, I’d love to.

  99. galaxieboi on January 21st, 2008 8:27 am

    Derek,

    Do you like Diamond Mind? I’m thinking about picking it up. I’ve been playing with APBA (first DOS, than Windows) since I was 13 or 14. APBA is cool, but I want something with a little more sim realism. Thoughts??

  100. arbeck on January 21st, 2008 8:42 am

    I’d love to be in on this.

  101. pumpkinhead on January 21st, 2008 8:54 am

    I’m pretty amaeturish, but it sounds like it would be fun.

  102. ajdaddy on January 21st, 2008 9:04 am

    I don’t know what I’m doing, but I’d give it a whack!

  103. LMF on January 21st, 2008 9:09 am

    Count me in.

  104. trentonkyle on January 21st, 2008 9:19 am

    In!

  105. Otto on January 21st, 2008 9:27 am

    Looks like you may need several leagues lol

    count me in.

  106. Colorado Mariner Fan on January 21st, 2008 9:42 am

    Sorry am late… busy weekend. I would participate.

  107. Brent on January 21st, 2008 9:56 am

    Count me in! I’ve played in Yahoo leagues for the past 6 years, commish 4 times. I don’t know if ESPN.com does the same thing for baseball, but in Fantasy Football, they had a bunch of different divisions. Just a thought…

  108. Some actor guy on January 21st, 2008 10:04 am

    I’d love to be part of this. Count me in! Although judging by all the responses I’ll be in league 7b. As far as whether ESPN or Yahoo should be used, it’s been my experience that Yahoo! tends to be more user friendly. I’m not sure which site offers the best customization tools though, as I’ve only ever GM’d on Yahoo.

  109. cipole on January 21st, 2008 10:15 am

    I’d be interested

  110. tad on January 21st, 2008 10:48 am

    I would be interested too! How many leagues are we going to need?

  111. HamNasty on January 21st, 2008 11:00 am

    Like the other 110 people, I would also be interested.

  112. marinerfaninvenice on January 21st, 2008 11:30 am

    I’m interesed and it would be nice (as I think someone else suggested) to have a multiple division league, division playoffs taking place in september. Maybe 8, 10-team leagues (80 participants). This would only work in a head-to-head format which isn’t my preference but it would be the only way to accomodate so many people. I’d think that there’s a fantasy system out there that is built for large communities like this.

  113. gocougs on January 21st, 2008 11:32 am

    As a long time reader, and VERY infrequent poster, I’d like to throw my hat in along with the other 111 people who have shown interest. As to what sites to use, I’ve been a part of leagues on Yahoo for the last 3 seasons, and haven’t had many complaints at all. I’d be very interested in a keeper league as well.

  114. LoydKristmis on January 21st, 2008 11:32 am

    I’m interested. Been playing for 7 or 8 years. Very competitive. Roto or H2H. Serpent or auction live (online) draft. Doesn’t matter to me!

  115. Bruce on January 21st, 2008 11:42 am

    I’d love to jump in, too. I’ve been in private Yahoo! leagues for the last few years. I couldn’t convince our group to branch out from the standard roto categories, but Yahoo!’s options seemed flexible enough to do something much more interesting.

  116. Taylor H on January 21st, 2008 11:50 am

    We might need more like five or six leagues!

  117. oac001 on January 21st, 2008 12:08 pm

    I’d be down for a Yahoo fantasy league, been doing that for a couple of years now.

  118. gthorson on January 21st, 2008 12:16 pm

    I’m very interested.

  119. Joe C on January 21st, 2008 12:31 pm

    I’m in.

  120. Trev on January 21st, 2008 12:40 pm

    I’ll make it 120. You can do a reasonable linear-weights system on Yahoo (that’d be season totals), but you can’t do any sort of non-roto head-to-head.

  121. bongo on January 21st, 2008 3:04 pm

    I’d be up for it. I’m still in a Diamond Mind league, but the simulator behavior strangely and the stats provided aren’t as useful as they could be (e.g. no GB/FB ratios).

  122. Lifelong_Fan on January 21st, 2008 9:43 pm

    Count me in as interested!

  123. e.vole on January 22nd, 2008 9:22 am

    Love to!
    Consider me a glutton for punishment.

  124. drakelelane on January 22nd, 2008 10:36 am

    sound of throwing pork pie hat into ring

  125. Wood Dog on January 22nd, 2008 11:30 am

    Looks like the JV league is a go. I’ll copy whatever format the Varsity league uses and we’ll take it from there.

  126. brown1981 on January 22nd, 2008 12:36 pm

    count me in

  127. tangotiger on January 22nd, 2008 12:53 pm

    If you are looking for LWTS-style values, studes has an easy set:
    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-to-evaluate-hitters/

  128. thefin190 on January 22nd, 2008 1:55 pm

    i’ll most likely be JV.

  129. NVS on January 22nd, 2008 8:20 pm

    Count me in. nothing like drafting ichiro first round just to trade him.

  130. dh on January 23rd, 2008 9:19 am

    I’m interested.

  131. kingsman on January 23rd, 2008 11:15 am

    Put my name in the hat…long time reader, first time commenter (done with sarcastic talk radio call-in intro).

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