Comments on: Jones spent Super Bowl Sunday being poked and prodded http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: SeattleKurt http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251390 SeattleKurt Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:31:07 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251390 Just a FEW of the headlines of the past two weeks... * O's ace not in Seattle yet * Even Batista waiting for trade to happen * Bedard trade almost complete * Reports: Bedard trade might be closer to reality * Orioles, M's look to clear hurdle for Bedard trade * Report: O's options are Bedard extension, trade * Source: Angelos yet to greenlight Bedard trade * Bedard trade talks heat up between O's, Mariners * Bedard trade talks still in limbo * Deal or no deal? O's expect resolution soon * * MacPhail: Angelos didn't veto proposed Bedard trade *Angelos' involvement could be delaying Bedard deal * MacPhail: No agreement with Mariners on Bedard trade * Is Jones-Bedard trade a done deal? * M's deal for Bedard on hold * Bedard to Mariners getting closer * Seattle not alone in Bedard hunt * O's-Mariners trade talks stall * O's deny deal in place with Seattle for Bedard * Mariners ask Jones to return to U.S. * Jones-Bedard trade in the works Just a FEW of the headlines of the past two weeks…

* O’s ace not in Seattle yet
* Even Batista waiting for trade to happen
* Bedard trade almost complete
* Reports: Bedard trade might be closer to reality
* Orioles, M’s look to clear hurdle for Bedard trade
* Report: O’s options are Bedard extension, trade
* Source: Angelos yet to greenlight Bedard trade
* Bedard trade talks heat up between O’s, Mariners
* Bedard trade talks still in limbo
* Deal or no deal? O’s expect resolution soon
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* MacPhail: Angelos didn’t veto proposed Bedard trade
*Angelos’ involvement could be delaying Bedard deal
* MacPhail: No agreement with Mariners on Bedard trade
* Is Jones-Bedard trade a done deal?
* M’s deal for Bedard on hold
* Bedard to Mariners getting closer
* Seattle not alone in Bedard hunt
* O’s-Mariners trade talks stall
* O’s deny deal in place with Seattle for Bedard
* Mariners ask Jones to return to U.S.
* Jones-Bedard trade in the works

]]> By: BigB http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251303 BigB Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:49:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251303 Can this trade please just go through or get axed? The suspense is killing me. Can this trade please just go through or get axed? The suspense is killing me.

]]> By: Celadus http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251135 Celadus Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:14:55 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251135 #128. We don't have the vocabulary to make meaningful distinctions. If we classify Jones as a prospect, then Triunfel isn't, certainly not to the same degree. I'd call him a young minor leaguer with promise and be done with it. Jones is a prospect. Or Jones is a major league talent without at bats in the majors and Triunfel is a prospect. Lumping them into the same category seduces one into making lazy and inaccurate equivalences. #128. We don’t have the vocabulary to make meaningful distinctions. If we classify Jones as a prospect, then Triunfel isn’t, certainly not to the same degree. I’d call him a young minor leaguer with promise and be done with it.

Jones is a prospect.

Or Jones is a major league talent without at bats in the majors and Triunfel is a prospect.

Lumping them into the same category seduces one into making lazy and inaccurate equivalences.

]]> By: Sidi http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251134 Sidi Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:39:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251134 <i> “The Mariners are losing Jones, but they have Wladimir Balentien waiting in the wings in case the Wilkerson experiment fails or Jose Vidro grinds to a halt.” Do you this this statement has any merit?</i> Well, we may be losing penicillin, but we still have ritualistic chanting in case animal sacrifice or blood-letting fails. “The Mariners are losing Jones, but they have Wladimir Balentien waiting in the wings in case the Wilkerson experiment fails or Jose Vidro grinds to a halt.”

Do you this this statement has any merit?

Well, we may be losing penicillin, but we still have ritualistic chanting in case animal sacrifice or blood-letting fails.

]]> By: Zobmie http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251133 Zobmie Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:58:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251133 I keep reading statements about the Bedard trade that go something like this: "The Mariners are losing Jones, but they have Wladimir Balentien waiting in the wings in case the Wilkerson experiment fails or Jose Vidro grinds to a halt." Do you this this statement has any merit? I keep reading statements about the Bedard trade that go something like this:
“The Mariners are losing Jones, but they have Wladimir Balentien waiting in the wings in case the Wilkerson experiment fails or Jose Vidro grinds to a halt.”

Do you this this statement has any merit?

]]> By: Sports on a Schtick http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251132 Sports on a Schtick Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:40:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251132 I was looking up "bad Mariner trades" and came across this <a href="http://ussmariner.com/2006/07/11/trade-chips/" rel="nofollow">USSM doozie.</a> I'm pretty sure AJ is still among the top five most valuable Mariners. And if there was an up-to-date list I would think Sherrill, Tillman and (probably) Butler would be in the top 25 as well. Also Yahoo! readers are <a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080121182444AAQO8AT" rel="nofollow">smart.</a> I was looking up “bad Mariner trades” and came across this USSM doozie.

I’m pretty sure AJ is still among the top five most valuable Mariners. And if there was an up-to-date list I would think Sherrill, Tillman and (probably) Butler would be in the top 25 as well.

Also Yahoo! readers are smart.

]]> By: Slippery Elmer http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251131 Slippery Elmer Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:10:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251131 Jake N.:". . . Were gonna play small ball, but the one guy beside Ichiro that can actually steal a bag just left to Baltimore." How does The Ignitor being dealt not deserve its own thread? Jake N.:”. . . Were gonna play small ball, but the one guy beside Ichiro that can actually steal a bag just left to Baltimore.”

How does The Ignitor being dealt not deserve its own thread?

]]> By: edgar for mayor http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251130 edgar for mayor Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:12:59 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251130 a1... a1…

]]> By: Carson http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251129 Carson Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:39:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251129 125 - Sorry, but a 17 year old who hasn't even seen AA yet can't be classified as anything but a prospect. What do you want to call him? "A potential star?" "A star in the making?" "A kid with talent past his years, but still needs some minor league refining?" It doesn't really matter, they all mean the same thing. 125 – Sorry, but a 17 year old who hasn’t even seen AA yet can’t be classified as anything but a prospect.

What do you want to call him? “A potential star?” “A star in the making?” “A kid with talent past his years, but still needs some minor league refining?”

It doesn’t really matter, they all mean the same thing.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/comment-page-3/#comment-251128 msb Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:13:10 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/04/jones-spent-super-bowl-sunday-being-poked-and-prodded/#comment-251128 from <a href="http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080204/BLOG05/766742321" rel="nofollow">Kirby Arnold</a> "Adam Jones and George Sherrill of the Mariners were in Baltimore for their physicals on Monday, but Erik Bedard wasn't expected to have his physical until Tuesday at the earliest. As of Monday night, Bedard hadn't ben told to leave for Seattle, the Baltimore Sun said ... neither Tillman nor Butler had been told anything officially from the Mariners as of early Monday evening. That came from a Mariners teammate who'd spent most of the afternoon bowling with Tillman and Butler in Peoria, Ariz., where they're all working out at the Mariners' spring training facility." from Kirby Arnold

“Adam Jones and George Sherrill of the Mariners were in Baltimore for their physicals on Monday, but Erik Bedard wasn’t expected to have his physical until Tuesday at the earliest. As of Monday night, Bedard hadn’t ben told to leave for Seattle, the Baltimore Sun said … neither Tillman nor Butler had been told anything officially from the Mariners as of early Monday evening. That came from a Mariners teammate who’d spent most of the afternoon bowling with Tillman and Butler in Peoria, Ariz., where they’re all working out at the Mariners’ spring training facility.”

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