Comments on: The 2008 Mariners through ZiPS http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Graham http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-2/#comment-251454 Graham Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:32:15 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251454 <i>As if not trading Jones would turn this all around?</i> Way to hilariously miss the point. As if not trading Jones would turn this all around?

Way to hilariously miss the point.

]]> By: Scooter4 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-2/#comment-251450 Scooter4 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:54:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251450 As if not trading Jones would turn this all around? As if not trading Jones would turn this all around?

]]> By: galaxieboi http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-2/#comment-251336 galaxieboi Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:59:53 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251336 I've finished 3 seasons of '08 DMB with the M's sans the Bedard trade. Still not real pretty. Derek knows this game a lot better than I, but I tried to use the same staff and bench he did. I picked up whatever clues (Balentien subs some of Raul's vsL ABs) when I could. Anywho, I've got a lot to learn but here they are. 67-95 612/795 26 Games back of LAA last in OPS 75-87 649/741 22 3rd last in OPS 69-93 688/770 22 4th 26th in OPS Consistently Adam has hit .260-.275 with a OBP 40-50 point higher than that with decent power. Felix had one bad year (the first) and two really good years. Pretty much every other starter has been average or a lot, lot worse. Drawing walks was this team's problem last year. And it probably will this year too. Like I said, take it for what it's worth. You need to run hundreds of these things to make them worth anything. I'll do some more later. I’ve finished 3 seasons of ‘08 DMB with the M’s sans the Bedard trade.

Still not real pretty. Derek knows this game a lot better than I, but I tried to use the same staff and bench he did. I picked up whatever clues (Balentien subs some of Raul’s vsL ABs) when I could. Anywho, I’ve got a lot to learn but here they are.

67-95 612/795 26 Games back of LAA last in OPS
75-87 649/741 22 3rd last in OPS
69-93 688/770 22 4th 26th in OPS

Consistently Adam has hit .260-.275 with a OBP 40-50 point higher than that with decent power. Felix had one bad year (the first) and two really good years. Pretty much every other starter has been average or a lot, lot worse.

Drawing walks was this team’s problem last year. And it probably will this year too.

Like I said, take it for what it’s worth. You need to run hundreds of these things to make them worth anything. I’ll do some more later.

]]> By: Jeff Nye http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-2/#comment-251319 Jeff Nye Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:02:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251319 No, I am not that Jeff. I am better looking. No, I am not that Jeff. I am better looking.

]]> By: Taylor H http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-2/#comment-251318 Taylor H Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:47:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251318 Makes you wonder if a singles-hitting, NOT-strikeout-pitching, poor-defensively team can win 88 games... two years in a row. Also, is Jeff Nye also Lookout Landing Jeff? They both seem to like Willie B and his noble steed (actually a pony). Makes you wonder if a singles-hitting, NOT-strikeout-pitching, poor-defensively team can win 88 games… two years in a row.

Also, is Jeff Nye also Lookout Landing Jeff? They both seem to like Willie B and his noble steed (actually a pony).

]]> By: galaxieboi http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-1/#comment-251306 galaxieboi Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:06:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251306 Seriously. We need the Rally Pony. Lookout has the Rally Dino. Graham you need to get to work on this. Seriously. We need the Rally Pony. Lookout has the Rally Dino.

Graham you need to get to work on this.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-1/#comment-251293 msb Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:22:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251293 I wonder if the Pony can do the Rally Jig. I wonder if the Pony can do the Rally Jig.

]]> By: galaxieboi http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-1/#comment-251291 galaxieboi Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:19:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251291 Ha! F*** the Rally Monkey. We've got the power of the USSM Pony! Ha! F*** the Rally Monkey. We’ve got the power of the USSM Pony!

]]> By: mln http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-1/#comment-251281 mln Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:52:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251281 ZiPS may not have many nice things to say about the Mariners, but the team does have something that no baseball projection/simulation system--no matter how sophisticated--can account for: The Power of the USSM Pony! ZiPS may not have many nice things to say about the Mariners, but the team does have something that no baseball projection/simulation system–no matter how sophisticated–can account for: The Power of the USSM Pony!

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/comment-page-1/#comment-251277 joser Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:32:33 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/the-2008-mariners-through-zips/#comment-251277 You know, it occurs to me that when I get into that inevitable conversation with the guy on the next barstool this summer, there's going to be a quick and easy way to figure out if it's worth continuing the discussion. I'll just say "You know why the team ERA is so high? Because they traded Adam Jones" If he treats that with understanding and agreement, I've found a kindred (or at least informed) soul; if he's confused by my mixing pitching stats and position players, it's time to just go back watching the game. Likely with my hands pressed to my temples. Or one slapping my forehead. You know, it occurs to me that when I get into that inevitable conversation with the guy on the next barstool this summer, there’s going to be a quick and easy way to figure out if it’s worth continuing the discussion. I’ll just say
“You know why the team ERA is so high? Because they traded Adam Jones”
If he treats that with understanding and agreement, I’ve found a kindred (or at least informed) soul; if he’s confused by my mixing pitching stats and position players, it’s time to just go back watching the game. Likely with my hands pressed to my temples. Or one slapping my forehead.

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