Mariner all-time putout and assist leaders
I realized in making a quip earlier this week about Ichiro’s base stealing that the information on who the M’s leaders in putouts and assists is not readily available. Caveat: in the database, outfielders frequently have their position listed as “OF” and since center fielders dominate defensive statistics, it’s hard to pick out left fielders particularly. I welcome corrections.
Neither of these are particularly great defensive statistics on their own, though they’re also not as worthless as you might have been led to believe — but I’ll leave that discussion for another day. So!
Mariner all-time putout leaders
| Player | Year | Putouts | Position |
| Dan Wilson | 1997 | 1050 | C |
| Alvin Davis | 1985 | 1438 | 1B |
| Harold Reynolds | 1991 | 348 | 2B |
| Alex Rodriguez | 1998 | 268 | SS |
| Bill Stein | 1977 | 146 | 3B |
| Randy Winn | 2003 | 299 | LF |
| Mike Cameron | 2003 | 485 | CF |
| Ichiro! | 2005 | 381 | RF |
A putout is an action that “causes the out of a batter-runner or runner”. Catchers rack up putouts for strikeouts, first basemen rack up putouts for catching balls thrown to them. Centerfielders get theirs the hard way.
Beltre owns spots 2-4.
Updated: 1999 Brian Hunter gets bumped by 2003 Randy Winn, who managed that line in only 134 games started in left (!).
Mariner all-time assist leaders
| Player | Year | Assists | Position |
| Dan Wilson | 1997 | 72 | C |
| John Olerud | 2000 | 133 | 1B |
| Harold Reynolds | 1987 | 507 | 2B |
| Omar Vizquel | 1993 | 475 | SS |
| Jim Presley | 1985 | 335 | 3B |
| Brian Hunter | 1999 | 14 | LF |
| Ken Griffey Jr. | 1998 | 11 | CF |
| Ichiro! | 2004 | 12 | RF |
A shortstop gets an assist for fielding a grounder and throwing to first (where the first basemen gets a putout). So the infielders get a ton of those, while outfielders have to really work for those.
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Al Davis?
What kind of heathen, Mariner-hating bloggers are you?
Al Davis. Jeesh.
Geez, one small mistake and all of the accusations of non-fandom, pessimism, and hatred are validated.
Anyway, this just further proves the awesomeness of Ichiro. Is there any other player in baseball who is more awesome in as many ways? Besides baseball skills, he’s possibly wackier than Rickie.
Does an assist get credited to the fielder on an unassisted double play? I’m thinking specifically of that unassisted double play Cameron managed in 2003 or so. He caught the fly (first putout), and then ran to second and doubled off the runner (second putout). But does he get an assist for that, as well?
Did I miss something in a drunken fog back in 1999, or was Hunter really that good?
No
(He gets two putouts, zero assists)
Only if outfield putout and assists are the start and end of outfield goodness.
Brian Hunter was athletic, with elite speed, on a team that I’m sure had a high flyball rate. Shouldn’t be surprising that he recorded a lot of put outs.
Jim Presley??
He wasn’t all that good — his 235 is nowhere close to the major league record for left fielders, which is well over 400, and not even anywhere near the about 380 or so needed to be in the top 10 all-time.
Ichiro’s got a couple of about 380’s to be in the top 5 all-time twice among right fielders … and Cameron’s 485 is just shy of the top-10 all-time for center fielders.
It does say something, however, about the quality of Mariner left fielders over the years….
A quick glance at Randy Winn’s ESPN card here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3837&context=fielding
says that he had 299 putouts in 2003 as a LF in 139 games (134 games started; he had another 64 putouts split betwen CF and RF that year).
That was just my gut instinct to check. Maybe he isn’t the putout leader in LF but he certainly had more than Hunter in 1999.
Too many people will believe that those assists are the OF using their cannon arms to throw people out taking an extra base (Ichiro vs. Terence Long, for example). While I’m sure a few of those are, most of them are times when the ball was caught on the fly and thrown back to a base for a double play because some idiot ran with the hit instead of waiting for it to drop.
Great catch — I was trying to screen for full-timers, and missed that entirely.
Anyone interested in the topic of how reputation and “style points” overrides statistics in Gold Glove awards should compare Harold’s 1991 stats with “Gold Glover” Roberto Alomar. One had 79 DPs, one had 133. Their other stats are nearly identical. Guess who had 133.
Um. DPs have a bit to do with runners on base, so you have to adjust for that- otherwise you’d habitually say that the best players at turning the DP play on teams that have bad pitching staffs that let lots of runners on base.
anyone bothered to see what Olney’s Beltre defense piece has to say today?
“Beltre’s great, but he’s not worth his contract”
Ugh. That meme.
It’s journalism like that that is really going to sell me on ESPN Insider, someday.
13: You can’t explain away 54 double plays by runners on base. Harold had 7 seasons of more than 100 DPs; Alomar, in a much longer career, had three. Alomar was a far better hitter, and I’m not knocking his defense, but at that one skill Harold was significantly better.
“Beltre’s great, but he’s not worth his contractâ€
DEAD MEME!
Wait, wrong blog.