Comments on: Mariner all-time putout and assist leaders http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:32:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Evan http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253832 Evan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:14:04 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253832 <em>“Beltre’s great, but he’s not worth his contract”</em> DEAD MEME! Wait, wrong blog. “Beltre’s great, but he’s not worth his contract”
DEAD MEME!

Wait, wrong blog.

]]> By: Breadbaker http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253779 Breadbaker Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:36:21 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253779 13: You can't explain away 54 double plays by runners on base. Harold had 7 seasons of more than 100 DPs; Alomar, in a much longer career, had three. Alomar was a far better hitter, and I'm not knocking his defense, but at that one skill Harold was significantly better. 13: You can’t explain away 54 double plays by runners on base. Harold had 7 seasons of more than 100 DPs; Alomar, in a much longer career, had three. Alomar was a far better hitter, and I’m not knocking his defense, but at that one skill Harold was significantly better.

]]> By: Jeff Nye http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253769 Jeff Nye Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:17:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253769 It's journalism like that that is really going to sell me on ESPN Insider, someday. It’s journalism like that that is really going to sell me on ESPN Insider, someday.

]]> By: DMZ http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253768 DMZ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:06:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253768 "Beltre's great, but he's not worth his contract" Ugh. That meme. “Beltre’s great, but he’s not worth his contract”

Ugh. That meme.

]]> By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253767 msb Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:50:10 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253767 anyone bothered to see what Olney's <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3274355&name=olney_buster&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3274355%26name%3dolney_buster" rel="nofollow">Beltre defense</a> piece has to say today? anyone bothered to see what Olney’s Beltre defense piece has to say today?

]]> By: eponymous coward http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253763 eponymous coward Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:37:40 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253763 Um. DPs have a bit to do with runners on base, so you have to adjust for that- otherwise you'd habitually say that the best players at turning the DP play on teams that have bad pitching staffs that let lots of runners on base. Um. DPs have a bit to do with runners on base, so you have to adjust for that- otherwise you’d habitually say that the best players at turning the DP play on teams that have bad pitching staffs that let lots of runners on base.

]]> By: Breadbaker http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253756 Breadbaker Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:50:28 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253756 Anyone interested in the topic of how reputation and "style points" overrides statistics in Gold Glove awards should compare Harold's 1991 stats with "Gold Glover" Roberto Alomar. One had 79 DPs, one had 133. Their other stats are nearly identical. Guess who had 133. Anyone interested in the topic of how reputation and “style points” overrides statistics in Gold Glove awards should compare Harold’s 1991 stats with “Gold Glover” Roberto Alomar. One had 79 DPs, one had 133. Their other stats are nearly identical. Guess who had 133.

]]> By: DMZ http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253728 DMZ Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:30:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253728 Great catch -- I was trying to screen for full-timers, and missed that entirely. Great catch — I was trying to screen for full-timers, and missed that entirely.

]]> By: Typical Idiot Fan http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253727 Typical Idiot Fan Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:37:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253727 Too many people will believe that those assists are the OF using their cannon arms to throw people out taking an extra base (Ichiro vs. Terence Long, for example). While I'm sure a few of those are, most of them are times when the ball was caught on the fly and thrown back to a base for a double play because some idiot ran with the hit instead of waiting for it to drop. Too many people will believe that those assists are the OF using their cannon arms to throw people out taking an extra base (Ichiro vs. Terence Long, for example). While I’m sure a few of those are, most of them are times when the ball was caught on the fly and thrown back to a base for a double play because some idiot ran with the hit instead of waiting for it to drop.

]]> By: milquetoast http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-253726 milquetoast Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:32:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/02/mariner-all-time-putout-and-assist-leaders/#comment-253726 A quick glance at Randy Winn's ESPN card here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3837&context=fielding says that he had 299 putouts in 2003 as a LF in 139 games (134 games started; he had another 64 putouts split betwen CF and RF that year). That was just my gut instinct to check. Maybe he isn't the putout leader in LF but he certainly had more than Hunter in 1999. A quick glance at Randy Winn’s ESPN card here: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3837&context=fielding

says that he had 299 putouts in 2003 as a LF in 139 games (134 games started; he had another 64 putouts split betwen CF and RF that year).

That was just my gut instinct to check. Maybe he isn’t the putout leader in LF but he certainly had more than Hunter in 1999.

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