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	<title>Comments on: M&#8217;s make money, Safeco Field to repay city in 125 years</title>
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	<description>Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg</description>
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		<title>By: Maury Brown</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/10/ms-make-money-safeco-field-to-repay-city-in-125-years/comment-page-1/#comment-254238</link>
		<dc:creator>Maury Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My research shows the Mariners pulling almost &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1993&amp;Itemid=42&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;$98 million in profits&lt;/a&gt; since their first full season in Safeco (2001). On the $23.3 million in 2006, which is the largest figure for profit by the M&#039;s, that was due to the one-time payment to all 30 clubs after the sale of the Expos to the Lerner group in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My research shows the Mariners pulling almost <a href="http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1993&amp;Itemid=42" rel="nofollow">$98 million in profits</a> since their first full season in Safeco (2001). On the $23.3 million in 2006, which is the largest figure for profit by the M&#8217;s, that was due to the one-time payment to all 30 clubs after the sale of the Expos to the Lerner group in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: John D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: # 4 -

&lt;em&gt;Is this still coasting on the vapor trail from 2001?

Lordy, this town needs a champion.&lt;/em&gt;

W/R/T: One day in 2001, I went into the Mariner team store. &quot;The way they&#039;re going now,&quot; I said to the clerk, &quot;makes you forget about &#039;95.&quot;
&quot;I&#039;ll never forget &#039;95,&quot; she said.
So there you have it. Why try for a WS championship? An ALDS championship will do. (That should fil up those seats for a decade or two--maybe a century or two.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: # 4 -</p>
<p><em>Is this still coasting on the vapor trail from 2001?</p>
<p>Lordy, this town needs a champion.</em></p>
<p>W/R/T: One day in 2001, I went into the Mariner team store. &#8220;The way they&#8217;re going now,&#8221; I said to the clerk, &#8220;makes you forget about &#8216;95.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;ll never forget &#8216;95,&#8221; she said.<br />
So there you have it. Why try for a WS championship? An ALDS championship will do. (That should fil up those seats for a decade or two&#8211;maybe a century or two.)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when are we going to finish paying off that other stadium, the one we imploded?  We still owe quite a few million for that one, don&#039;t we?

Safeco&#039;s starting to look a little old, a little ratty. Time for a new one, don&#039;t you think? We need more luxurious luxury boxes, with spas and prostitutes. The taxpayers can take it; they&#039;ll take anything for their sports teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when are we going to finish paying off that other stadium, the one we imploded?  We still owe quite a few million for that one, don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>Safeco&#8217;s starting to look a little old, a little ratty. Time for a new one, don&#8217;t you think? We need more luxurious luxury boxes, with spas and prostitutes. The taxpayers can take it; they&#8217;ll take anything for their sports teams.</p>
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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  So, theoretically PFD &lt;b&gt;could&lt;/b&gt; be checking the team&#039;s books but simply can&#039;t comment on the results.  Huh.

Yeah, always with my it&#039;s/its.  I gotta work on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  So, theoretically PFD <b>could</b> be checking the team&#8217;s books but simply can&#8217;t comment on the results.  Huh.</p>
<p>Yeah, always with my it&#8217;s/its.  I gotta work on that.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s/its there.

Generally, teams are extremely reluctant to let outside parties look into, much less disclose, information about their finances. You get problems like Zimbalist tearing into you in excessive detail for your constant lying.

It&#039;s one of the reasons they don&#039;t want the teams themselves to be publicly owned.

In cases like this, though, where there&#039;s money involved, the sides have audit rights, though that right may not include public disclosure of audit results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s/its there.</p>
<p>Generally, teams are extremely reluctant to let outside parties look into, much less disclose, information about their finances. You get problems like Zimbalist tearing into you in excessive detail for your constant lying.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of the reasons they don&#8217;t want the teams themselves to be publicly owned.</p>
<p>In cases like this, though, where there&#8217;s money involved, the sides have audit rights, though that right may not include public disclosure of audit results.</p>
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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any MLB teams allow independent audits of their books and accounting practices?  I would think it&#039;d behove the PFD (and it&#039;s counterparts in other cities) to require something approaching this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any MLB teams allow independent audits of their books and accounting practices?  I would think it&#8217;d behove the PFD (and it&#8217;s counterparts in other cities) to require something approaching this.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jamie Moyer career retrospective that started in the 1920&#039;s was pretty great, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jamie Moyer career retrospective that started in the 1920&#8217;s was pretty great, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: J.L. White</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.L. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best Mariner commercial has to be the one where Dan Wilson is chatting up the batter for a solid minute, waiting for a Jamie Moyer fastball (with a little mustard on it) to finally make its way to the plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best Mariner commercial has to be the one where Dan Wilson is chatting up the batter for a solid minute, waiting for a Jamie Moyer fastball (with a little mustard on it) to finally make its way to the plate.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in honor of Coach Amaral:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlb.com/sea/fan_forum/video_room.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pie Drills.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in honor of Coach Amaral:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mlb.com/sea/fan_forum/video_room.jsp" rel="nofollow">Pie Drills.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robo Ape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo Ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a huge fan of the Russ Davis bad dancing commercial.  Just seeing Lou&#039;s reaction when Russ says: &quot;I think he&#039;s pretty good.&quot;  That one and (going way back to 1994) Jay Buhner as a standup comedian were priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a huge fan of the Russ Davis bad dancing commercial.  Just seeing Lou&#8217;s reaction when Russ says: &#8220;I think he&#8217;s pretty good.&#8221;  That one and (going way back to 1994) Jay Buhner as a standup comedian were priceless.</p>
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