Comments on: Horacio Ramirez, a not at all fond retrospective of his time in a Mariner uniform

By: BigJared

BigJared — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:09:42 +0000

“I’d rather throw the wrong pitch, but a pitch I throw with conviction,” Ramirez said. “That makes it right.”

A Rumsfeld-esque soundbite if ever one existed.

That is a golden nugget I will forever charish when I think of the man affectionately known as ‘HoRam’. You can totally suck, but if you do it with conviction that makes it all good.

Using this newfound optimism I look back at the some of last year’s lowlights and see new things……….

After another 0-4 with 3 K’s, 1 GIDP and 8 LOB night Richie can say, “I swung and missed with conviction so that makes them good swings.”

By: jlc

jlc — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:10:35 +0000

I hate that veiled, “there was something going on we can’t tell you about,” crap. Either say what was wrong or keep your mouth shut and don’t do character assasination by implication.

By: scott19

scott19 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:16:20 +0000

If Dickey, as a Rule 5 guy, ends up posting anything even slightly resembling respectable numbers this season, he’ll still end up being a better value than HoRam’s second cup of Spring coffee was.

By: Jay R.

Jay R. — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:31:03 +0000

It only cost them $458,000. Remember that next time you are buying a $60 ticket, $25 hat or $8 beer at Safeco. If you can stomach darkening its door any time in the near future. Personally, that won’t be until the clowns they have running the front office are a distant memory.

By: hiRes

hiRes — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:28:54 +0000

4- If BB truly believes you can build a pen cheaply, and that TOTR pitchers come dear, fairly conventional wisdom, then why oh why does he keep Morrow in the pen?

This guy would be much better off if he was able to develop in Tacoma for another year instead of being stuck in situational hell.

So, I conclude that BB doesn’t truly ascribe to conventional wisdom in this case.

By: DEO

DEO — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:27:48 +0000

4 – The Oakland A’s built a cheap rotation in 2001-2003, led by Hudson, Zito and Mulder.

The Twins built a fairly cheap rotation in 2004 (winning 92 games). The surrounded the expensive Radke with Carlos Silva, Kyle Lohse and some guy named Santana.

The late 90’s Indians also did it relatively cheaply (again typically having one high priced starter surrounded by good, cheap young guys.

There are lots of examples.

By: abender20

abender20 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:10:54 +0000

9 – could be. Although it doesn’t take a baseball lifer to determine that a soft throwing lefty with poor command and no ability to miss bats should not be receiving upwards of 4 million dollars.

By: eternal

eternal — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:24:57 +0000

I’m wondering. Do you think Mel S is helping the team to better understand how to eval a pitcher?

By: rea

rea — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:39:05 +0000

Well, I attempted to link something, there, but it didn’t work.

By: rea

rea — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:38:05 +0000

Did they make the Soriano trade for off-fieled reasons? If so, what were they?

Last fall, Mariners president Chuck Armstrong hinted the Ramirez-for-Soriano trade wasn't Bavasi's fault, that it happened for more than just baseball reasons. Armstrong said last Sept. 27, without naming specific off-field incidents, that "a lot of things went on that compelled us to make that move" of Soriano for whatever the Mariners could get.