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Game 20, Mariners at Angels
Batista v Moseley. It’d sure be nice for the team to get out of town with a win here.
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well, as Pitman just pointed out, they are looking to last-year’s wins leader to stop the losing streak.
oh, wait.
Well, Moseley is tough on lefties but he was significantly worse at home than he was on the road last year, so there is that. Did the M’s really only score one run on him in 10.2 IP last year?
WFB spelling Yuni today
all in favor of a 3-3 record against the hated angels (hated more than the oh so hated padres?), say aye.
AYE!!!
And on a good note (for me anyways), MLB Extra Innings is playing the M’s feed again today, so no Hudler! Yay!
Can we have the real Ichiro back, please?
at-bats like these won’t be getting the job done.
No Hunter today. The M’s have a shot.
Man I had the pregame show one while I was taking a shower. So I was forced to listen when Rizzs started interviewing Hudler. No one has been trapped in a shower in such horror since “Psycho.” Though it was probably a savvy move on Rizzs part: next to Hudler, he sounds positively sane, sedate, and sincere.
That’s just mean for our guys to be discussing getting Frank Thomas while Vidro’s batting in all his Weeble glory.
So, Vidro at bat and Blowers, for some reason, starts wondering if anyone will sigh Frank Thomas, helpfully pointing out the team that signs him would only need to pay league minimum.
Hmmm.
Now Richie’s up. Wonder if it’s a good time for the broadcast crew to discuss whether Thomas can still play first?
at least AREA 51 is in full operation.
WOOT! A Richie Funk Blast!
…Sexson is BACK!
BIG RICHIE
Sexson… again!?
Ichiro always starts off slow.
Nice. Sexson got around on that one.
Richie heard you, JMHawkins. Vidro sort of heard the Thomas chatter, but could only get to the wall on the long fly ball.
Sexson kicking ass.
Sexson is on fire this series!
Please let it be sustainable.. please let it be sustainable..
Time for some grit!
Of course, Willie painted his eye black on instead of the using the tape, because it’s grittier!
That was a gritty groundout. He really hustled.
Richie heard you, JMHawkins. Vidro sort of heard the Thomas chatter, but could only get to the wall on the long fly ball.
Well, if that’s all it takes, maybe we should photoshop up the Bug Hurt in a M’s uniform…
Is that like the Orkin Man? =)
Can he be put on a pink pony? I really like those pictures.
That’s the Authentic Ichiro!
Ichiro needs to run.
Is that like the Orkin Man? =)
Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of ‘em…
Sheesh, I guess that button should say “free of spelling errors and typos”
Rizzy and the Crime Dog…now that’s a scary combo if ever there was one.
I thought that Fred McGriff was the Crime Dog, and Hudler was the stray dog or something like that.
Well,that rundown wasn’t a good thing.
Hudler is the “Wonder Dog.”
I think Hudler is the Crimes Against Broadcasting Dog.
We’re not going to get even one run out of this, are we?
There’s something about seeing a guy who resembles my plumber standing up there with a bat that doesn’t make me believe….and sure enough.
Lost opportunity there. Ouch
That inning was a crime against broadcasting.
Man, that really sucked.
Rex Hudler the Wonder Dog. Sounds like a character in a PBS special.
Sorry, thanks! I remembered he went by some kind of canine alias…though he’s still scary behind a microphone.
Beltre’d!
Beltre! Yay!
Nice play by Beltre….And a retarded discussion about his sunglasses follows…
Gotta love hard-hitting broadcast journalism at its finest!
That rundown play gave me an idea for next years Ichiro commercial. Ichiro gets caught in a run down between first and second, an extended one. The defenders are throwing the ball back and forth, and pretty soon, they’re standing next to each other and Ichiro’s no where to be seen. They look around, and there he is at second base. Ichiro steps off towards third and says, “Wanna try again?”
I’m not watching the game on TV, so I’m not sure who is in the booth right now, but at least Sims and Blow talk. When Rizz used to do it, it was dead air 50% of the time.
Someone should tell announcers that 30 seconds of silence during down time is better than talking about something retarded for 2 1/2 minutes…
I like that idea Hawkins! Nice!
I’d rather hear them chit-chat than have silence when nothing is happening in the game.
Richie is looking like he could be back to his pre-Mariner form…
Good news there about Wlad! X-rays negative and is day to day.
Well, though I hate to admit that the Angels announcers can get anything right, they’re absolutely right that we should be missing Jose Guillen.
And then was Rizzy was actually trying to clear dead-air time, he wound up launching into yet another of his monologues about the glories of the ‘95 or ‘01 seasons…arrgh!
Man, when you’re going bad, you get no breaks. That pitch looked pretty far outside on Wilk.
Miggy’s playing the mound like a goalie right now…
46: I could totally picture that Ichiro ad in my mind…great idea!
Grit!
Ignition!
Yes!
Dang! That’s the Ichiro! we need to see more of! Sweet!
ICHI!!!
Is that the first run we’ve gotten this series with a hit other than a homer?
I loves me Ichiro’s talent.
It’s a good thing the M’s didn’t give up on Lopez after last year…He’s near his all-star form of ‘06 right now…
DougP Says:
Is that the first run we’ve gotten this series with a hit other than a homer?
I think you are correct sir!
If Lopez were grittier though he would have scored on the single.
I dream about dead air when Rick is on-mike …
speaking of which, Rebecca Hale was on the pregame talking about the work they’ve been doing over the last few years to recycle, and to try to get carbon-neutral status; she made a comment about their commitment to it, and getting the message to the players as well. um. well, not driving giant gas-guzzlers might help
pygmalion Says:
If Lopez were grittier though he would have scored on the single.
But this team is all about roles, and grit isn’t Mr. Lopez’s role.
Four wide ones to Richie are in order here.
Dick Sexy time
I’m calling a homer
If you’re the Angels, why would you even pitch to Richie in that situation? With Wilkerson on deck and all?
Come on, Wilk. Double your RBI count for the season with one swing.
Sounds like a porno flick!
Oops, that’s right, his role is “advancing runners.”
72 – Maybe because, despite his recent hot streak, he is hitting .230
Is it just me or does Wilkerson always looked pissed off?
Jesus Wilkerson, take a few pitches
How long of a leash do you think Wilk has at this point?
True, but in this series, he’s hit 5 balls out of the park (too bad 2 of them were brought back on nice plays).
Wilkerson pissed? No that’s us, watching him ground out to second again.
Logger said:
His OPS coming into the game was however a none too shabby .828, and can only have risen. Wilkerson meanwhile continues to show his need for a pony.
God, Wilkerson is awful. I can recall a more unproductive Mariner. As a graduate of University of Florida, I am embarasssed that Wilkerson is a Gator. Just an rotten player!
well, if you were hitting like that …
Is there any spot in left field other than a dinker directly in front of him that doesn’t turn into an automatic double when Ibanez is there?
Nice K Miggy!
“Batista threw him a fastball, and the Angel’s rally is over.” That is some optimistic broadcasting. A 2-out double constitutes a rally…right.
If I were Wilkerson, I’d have leaned in and let him try to hit me with a pitch — at least that would’ve been good for an RBI.
That was funny. Wilkerson wanted nothing to do with that flyball.
Games like this must be how high LOB%’s are forged. Miggy has been quite fortunate in that many of the hits he’s given up today have been with two outs. At that point, he doesn’t have much to worry about. One more out and the problem is solved.
This game is exceptionally boring. So much so that I found myself thinking that if we score two more runs in the eighth and zero in the night then we will have a nice palindrome of scoring: 020020020.
I like this games boring compared to last nights boring.
It is dull, isn’t it?
Yet there’s this underlying tension from the fact that four runs isn’t really that many.
And yes, there’s that lead-off basehit.
Yes, this boring much better than last night’s boring.
Batista 8 is great!
Damn Miggy! You to bomb today!
Boring? You’d rather it was a one-run game? Because those always turn out so well.
The game might not be especially exciting, but it’s the baseball I love. It’s a 162-game season, folks.
No, don’t try for third, Brad.
Thanks, Wilk…wish that could have happened in your last at-bat.
So the pope is at Yankee stadium today? And he was pitching for the Nationals just a couple of days ago? See, this is how interleague play has ruined the game. And talk about short rest. Why isn’t he working for the Cardinals? Then they could set things up and just bring him in to close.
Anyway, don’t the Yankee faithful believe they already have a infallible eminence who plays shortstop? And if he’s going to spend time with an NY team isn’t there a greater need for someone to perform an exorcism on the Knicks?
103: The Yankees call their stadium “the Cathedral.” I was there the first week of the season, and that is without question the butt-ugliest cathedral on the face of this planet.
Too bad papa B-wilks gets the hit NOW.
Johjima looks like one of my baseball coaches, for real
Let’s see, 5 HRs in 20 games…. you realize Sexson’s on pace to hit 40? No, I don’t believe it either, but that should be enough for us to turn our ire elsewhere for a while. Vidro, Wilkerson, Vidro, Wilkerson, hmmmm.
103: Hmm…I think the Padres were actually trying to sign him, too.
Hey, at least Wilks is getting hits… I guess.
Having Vidro and Wilkerson batting back-to-back basically assumes one dead inning out of every three.
One run games aren’t the only exciting games. Dominant pitching is exciting. Lots of offense is exciting. Base stealing is exciting. Lots of things are exciting to watch.
Nice job Miggy, nice job!
Nice job Miggy
McLaren must think that Ibanez is a better fielder than Wilkerson, since he moved Willie out to right and put Yuni in at short.
Is that true? Could Wilkerson possibly have less range in the OF than Raul?
Considering the offense involved, that’s a heck of an outing by Batista. Yeah, it was a tightrope walk that easily could’ve gone the other way — especially if the defense (including his own) hadn’t held up — but still: he kept them on the ground and in the park, and given who he is that’s all you can ask.
104: And if the Lord’s name is not to be taken in vain — especially toward the opposing team — then that is the most un-cathedral-like “Cathedral” I’ve ever heard of.
I’m proposing a new nickname for Wilkinson:
Pillsbury Doughboy.
It could catch on.
Miguel is balled!
Nice work, Miggy!
Standing O for Miggy!
Based on how Wilkerson has played the wall, the force of gravity apparently affects him even more than Ibanez. I didn’t think M’s could find somebody with less vertical reach, but somehow they did. He’s the guy at the pickup basketball game that everybody dunks over.
Rhodes!
Oh man…I misspelled bald. How retarded can you get?
Wilkerson’s defense is so stunning, he almost makes one pine for the days of Glenallen Hill.
Hey, as long as Ibanez keeps swinging his hot bat, I couldn’t care less if he lets a few balls drop in front of him.
ndrfx. That’s almost as bad as “Dick Sexy”
113: Since he’d pinch run for Wilkerson, he really didn’t have any choice.
Pretty retarded, apparently, and Kevin Mitchell too!
I’m chalking it up to the fact I was watching baseball…balled…yah, that was it.
I think its time to stop hatin on Sexson
I BELIEVE
maybe
I’m just glad, with a first name of Richard, my last name’s not Bulger.
4 balls in a row?
RuhRhro
What an awesome job Rhodes has. Get paid big bucks (even if it’s the league minimum, that’s still a hell of a lot more than I make) to come in and face a couple batters at a time a few times a week.
Oh man, this ain’t good.
get him out of there now
You think a loss here wouldn’t haunt this team all year?
2 walks in a row?
RuhRO
what was wrong w/ rhodes?
Egads…is Lowe now auditioning for Arson Squad: Seattle?
quick, bring in Sherrill!!
Oh. right.
What the hell? It looks like he walked those first two guys on purpose the way he’s throwing now.
Wow, that was close as all heck. Sweet!
Did you see who the umpire is at first?
Replay shows he was out. Thank you
Niehaus: “The fans hate the call…”
It’s the bottom of the 9th…you mean they haven’t all headed out already to go throw tri-tips on the barbie?
Not much trouble reading Scioscia’s lips at the end there, especially since he repeated himself several times. It was the right call, though.
Just based on range factor (looking at the past when Wilkerson played LF) he actually does have less range than Ibanez. Small sample size caveats apply. So do the limitations of range factor.
What I don’t understand is why you would warm up Morrow and then not use him. He can walk guys just as good as Lowe can.
HGH, Jr. with the bases loaded…nice.
Not too boring now!
Well, it’s not dull now.
Nor are those four runs enough.
This may make McLaren’s decision about who to send to Tacoma when Putz comes back a little easier.
Come on guys, one more out. Surely you can do that.
Hopefully Kenji used that visit to the mound to steal the gas can…
Here comes the pitching machine. Set it to 95mph and hope that it’s not more erratic than usual.
I was really liking boring. This excitement is not so much fun.
I really wish we had Rafael Soriano back.
This would really put a damper on my Sunday.
Not the man I hoped to see coming in.
Geez, I thought I was making a joke about Morrow.
Do not groove one to Vlad. Do not groove one to Vlad.
I really, really, wish we had Rafael Soriano back.
Garret’s a lot less effective against LHP, so that’s good
160 and 155
+1
Soriano would be injured, but I understand…
c’mon RRS feed!
How did they not call that a swing?
Ah, I remember the days when McLaren didn’t believe that RRS could pitch in the 8th/9th.
Woohoo bloglines!
Strike Four! Game over, M’s win. Whoo. Hooo.
I remember the days when Dave said RRS was not a legitimate major league pitcher.
Beautiful final pitch. Everything away until that last strike. Nice road trip guys, come on home!
Wow, my Sunday just got a whole lot better.
That was nice to see Mac get riled up for once. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him show emotion towards anything.
Ya know I am beginning to think this season is becoming one big conspiracy. Everyone from old man Nintendo who owns the team, to the manger is in on it.
But with all of that said. JJ will be back sometime this week. We are only 2 games behind the halo’s. The team is back to 500. Besides things could always be worse.
Nice job shutting the door, RRS…my BP has now returned to a safe level!
Nice job shutting the door, RRS…my BP has now returned to a safe level!
First my connection is thrown into purgatory, then it double-posts…yikes.
I’m pretty sure Dave thought RRS might turn into a decent reliever in the 2004 offseason. Yup.
DMZ, your link leads to an administrators log in, not Dave’s post from 2004:
[nobody click this]
that darned Dave.
well, that was a lot more interesting than I was wanting.
oooh, Mike Pelfrey vs Snohomish’s own Adam Eaton tonight.
Whooooooooooops. Lemme go fix that.
gotta love that hard-hitting Joe Morgan analysis. The Mets have to beat the Phillies & the Braves to win the division.
Now that Sexson is one away from 300 are they going to have him throw 300 balls into the stands to commemorate the achievement after his next home run just like Willie Horton did in ‘79? I almost was in attendance for his 300th. Horton was sitting on 299 and crushed one in the Kingdome but it hit a speaker. Ahh for the pre-juice days when 300 meant something.
I remember the days when people didn’t claim Dave said the opposite of what he actually did say, just to fabricate a cheap shot.
The thing is, if you write enough about players, your opinions will change ad they develop (or fail to develop). If someone has a huge hole in their swing and you say “Bob’s going to have trouble hitting major league fastballs” without saying “right now if he were promoted and nothing changed” and then over the next two seasons he shortens his swing a lot and starts mashing those pitches, throwing that original fastball quote out as evidence someone was wrong substantially misrepresents the complexity of your ongoing observation.
I know Dave changed his mind. I was just reminiscing, not intending to imply something different. I asked him last year (in one of the future 40 threads) why he didn’t have RRS on the future 40 list since he was already on the team, and he said at that time he didn’t think he had what it takes to be a major league pitcher. He has since said that RRS is a legitimate number 5 starter, so I know he changed his mind.
Actually, what Dave said last July was that RRS wasn’t much of a prospect. See comment 11
Btw, Chris Snelling? DL. Who had April 20 in the pool?