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		<title>By: galaxieboi</title>
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		<dc:creator>galaxieboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t recommend leaving the highway. Surrey isn’t the nicest place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha.  I had a friend who told me a joke once about Surrey.  &#039;What&#039;s the difference between garbage and boys from Surrey?&#039; she asks.  &#039;At least the trash gets picked up once a week&#039;.  *rim shot*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t recommend leaving the highway. Surrey isn’t the nicest place.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha.  I had a friend who told me a joke once about Surrey.  &#8216;What&#8217;s the difference between garbage and boys from Surrey?&#8217; she asks.  &#8216;At least the trash gets picked up once a week&#8217;.  *rim shot*</p>
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		<title>By: Say Hey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Say Hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will the cut Wilkerson loose and admit their mistake? Never? As soon as they pick up a new right fielder. What about Reed as a replacement level player? Balentien? Or is it heavy drinking all year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the cut Wilkerson loose and admit their mistake? Never? As soon as they pick up a new right fielder. What about Reed as a replacement level player? Balentien? Or is it heavy drinking all year?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Also, Surrey definitely is “on the way to Vancouver from here” for certain values of here.&lt;/em&gt;

Surrey&#039;s is on the way to Vancouver from Seattle, which is probably what Derek meant.  And no, you don&#039;t need to turn off at some point - you will pass through Surrey without leaving the highway.

I don&#039;t recommend leaving the highway.  Surrey isn&#039;t the nicest place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Also, Surrey definitely is “on the way to Vancouver from here” for certain values of here.</em></p>
<p>Surrey&#8217;s is on the way to Vancouver from Seattle, which is probably what Derek meant.  And no, you don&#8217;t need to turn off at some point &#8211; you will pass through Surrey without leaving the highway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recommend leaving the highway.  Surrey isn&#8217;t the nicest place.</p>
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		<title>By: don52656</title>
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		<dc:creator>don52656</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Willie can play multiple positions, but who the heck cares?  He can&#039;t hit.  Period.  I&#039;m not saying Reed is a panacea for anything, but right now what we need is outfield help.  Reed has a lifetime line against RHP of .271/.329/.396.  That&#039;s not great; in fact, it&#039;s below average for a corner outfielder, but it&#039;s more than marginally better than Willie&#039;s .255/.307/.305 line against RHP&#039;s.  Plus, he&#039;s a better outfielder than Willie (in my opinion), he can play all three outfield positions, he hits left-handed, and he&#039;s a decent baserunner.  He is not a long-term solution, but he would make the bench more usable and effective.  Of course, that&#039;s not setting the bar very high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Willie can play multiple positions, but who the heck cares?  He can&#8217;t hit.  Period.  I&#8217;m not saying Reed is a panacea for anything, but right now what we need is outfield help.  Reed has a lifetime line against RHP of .271/.329/.396.  That&#8217;s not great; in fact, it&#8217;s below average for a corner outfielder, but it&#8217;s more than marginally better than Willie&#8217;s .255/.307/.305 line against RHP&#8217;s.  Plus, he&#8217;s a better outfielder than Willie (in my opinion), he can play all three outfield positions, he hits left-handed, and he&#8217;s a decent baserunner.  He is not a long-term solution, but he would make the bench more usable and effective.  Of course, that&#8217;s not setting the bar very high.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t understand where the fascination with Reed comes from at this point. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

back-up quarterback syndrome?

from Raul &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2004372414_marinotes25.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this morning&lt;/a&gt; on the Mariner offense:

&quot;I think the key is patience through aggression&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t understand where the fascination with Reed comes from at this point. </p></blockquote>
<p>back-up quarterback syndrome?</p>
<p>from Raul <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2004372414_marinotes25.html" rel="nofollow">this morning</a> on the Mariner offense:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think the key is patience through aggression&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
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		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Is Jeremy Reed really so bad that we think Willie is a better option in RF?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, Reed is really so bad that Willie is a better option on the bench, because Willie can play multiple positions and Reed can&#039;t, and Reed is only a marginally better hitter.  (You don&#039;t need both Willie and Cairo, but that&#039;s another issue.)

I don&#039;t understand where the fascination with Reed comes from at this point.  When he was here, everyone wished he wasn&#039;t.  Now I guess we&#039;ve forgotten how bad he was.  840-odd plate appearances, .314 onbase, .366 slugging, 17 for 32 as a base stealer, not making anyone forget Mike Cameron in the outfield.  He&#039;s a AAA player.  Sure, he&#039;s 27, so maybe it&#039;s time for him to have one decent year, convince management that he&#039;s finally reached his potential, get an overpriced contract, and go back to sucking. I figure that&#039;s the best-case scenario.</description>
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Is Jeremy Reed really so bad that we think Willie is a better option in RF?
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<p>No, Reed is really so bad that Willie is a better option on the bench, because Willie can play multiple positions and Reed can&#8217;t, and Reed is only a marginally better hitter.  (You don&#8217;t need both Willie and Cairo, but that&#8217;s another issue.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand where the fascination with Reed comes from at this point.  When he was here, everyone wished he wasn&#8217;t.  Now I guess we&#8217;ve forgotten how bad he was.  840-odd plate appearances, .314 onbase, .366 slugging, 17 for 32 as a base stealer, not making anyone forget Mike Cameron in the outfield.  He&#8217;s a AAA player.  Sure, he&#8217;s 27, so maybe it&#8217;s time for him to have one decent year, convince management that he&#8217;s finally reached his potential, get an overpriced contract, and go back to sucking. I figure that&#8217;s the best-case scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: mln</title>
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		<dc:creator>mln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After another bullpen meltdown, there is one option for Bavasi: BRING BACK RICK WHITE AND HIS DAYGLO GOATEE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After another bullpen meltdown, there is one option for Bavasi: BRING BACK RICK WHITE AND HIS DAYGLO GOATEE!</p>
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		<title>By: Benne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got home from the game.  My thoughts:


--The cold.  Good lord, was it cold.


--Our offense was its usual anemic self and our bullpen imploded again, which should surprise no one.

--Nobody did the wave, which was a refreshing change of pace.

The only real highlight was the kids running onto the field, with one of the security guards doing his best Lofa Tatupu impression and laying him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got home from the game.  My thoughts:</p>
<p>&#8211;The cold.  Good lord, was it cold.</p>
<p>&#8211;Our offense was its usual anemic self and our bullpen imploded again, which should surprise no one.</p>
<p>&#8211;Nobody did the wave, which was a refreshing change of pace.</p>
<p>The only real highlight was the kids running onto the field, with one of the security guards doing his best Lofa Tatupu impression and laying him out.</p>
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		<title>By: don52656</title>
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		<dc:creator>don52656</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After attending this game and then listening to the drivel that passes for the post-game shows on the local radio stations, I am just totally pissed off!  All I heard on the way home is the lack of options the M&#039;s have in the bullpen, and how they couldn&#039;t pinch hit for Willie in the 8th because they have no one else to play RF.  It&#039;s a total crock, because the bench is the way it is because they constructed it that way, and they ought to be ashamed of themselves.  All I heard when JJ was hurt was how we so badly needed him back so everyone could go back to the roles they were comfortable with, and now I&#039;m hearing that because JJ is back, we haven&#039;t figured out which roles to put everyone in!  First of all, we&#039;re playing with a 23-man roster at best.  Cairo has absolutely no role on this team.  Baek has pitched what, 3 times in 23 games.  The bench has no left-handed hitters and no one to play the outfield.  Half the starting lineup is batting below .210, but we keep trotting the same anemic lineup out there.  Where in the heck is Clement, Balentien, or for crying out loud, Reed?  Is Jeremy Reed really so bad that we think Willie is a better option in RF?  

We&#039;ve about finished April, and have played the AL West, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, and Baltimore.  It is by far the easiest month of the year, and we&#039;re sitting at 11-12.  May ought to be fun, with Cleveland, Detroit, and two series at New York.

And the worst freaking thing about this situation is that we threw the kitchen sink into the off season, and if the Bedard trade doesn&#039;t work out, we&#039;re screwed and rebuilding for years.

I had to laugh when I heard the &quot;we could trade for Griffey&quot; talk tonight.  Do these people think the Reds will give him to us for free?  

Off to cool down....have a good night all.

PS...I&#039;m really sick and tired of freezing my tail off at Safeco.  Can winter go away already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After attending this game and then listening to the drivel that passes for the post-game shows on the local radio stations, I am just totally pissed off!  All I heard on the way home is the lack of options the M&#8217;s have in the bullpen, and how they couldn&#8217;t pinch hit for Willie in the 8th because they have no one else to play RF.  It&#8217;s a total crock, because the bench is the way it is because they constructed it that way, and they ought to be ashamed of themselves.  All I heard when JJ was hurt was how we so badly needed him back so everyone could go back to the roles they were comfortable with, and now I&#8217;m hearing that because JJ is back, we haven&#8217;t figured out which roles to put everyone in!  First of all, we&#8217;re playing with a 23-man roster at best.  Cairo has absolutely no role on this team.  Baek has pitched what, 3 times in 23 games.  The bench has no left-handed hitters and no one to play the outfield.  Half the starting lineup is batting below .210, but we keep trotting the same anemic lineup out there.  Where in the heck is Clement, Balentien, or for crying out loud, Reed?  Is Jeremy Reed really so bad that we think Willie is a better option in RF?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve about finished April, and have played the AL West, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, and Baltimore.  It is by far the easiest month of the year, and we&#8217;re sitting at 11-12.  May ought to be fun, with Cleveland, Detroit, and two series at New York.</p>
<p>And the worst freaking thing about this situation is that we threw the kitchen sink into the off season, and if the Bedard trade doesn&#8217;t work out, we&#8217;re screwed and rebuilding for years.</p>
<p>I had to laugh when I heard the &#8220;we could trade for Griffey&#8221; talk tonight.  Do these people think the Reds will give him to us for free?  </p>
<p>Off to cool down&#8230;.have a good night all.</p>
<p>PS&#8230;I&#8217;m really sick and tired of freezing my tail off at Safeco.  Can winter go away already?</p>
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		<title>By: jlc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got back from the game. I only get to a couple of games a year, so I was jazzed until I found out Washburn was pitching. I tried to be confident with the 5 runs we had, but 3 errors and double digit hits is bad for confidence. Fun to see AJ and Sherrill, in a Twilight Zone kind of way. And, OMG, it was cold.

I think the only thing I&#039;ll choose to remember is the double steal. Yeah, that&#039;s the ticket. There was this amazing double steal that was just like the way the pros do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from the game. I only get to a couple of games a year, so I was jazzed until I found out Washburn was pitching. I tried to be confident with the 5 runs we had, but 3 errors and double digit hits is bad for confidence. Fun to see AJ and Sherrill, in a Twilight Zone kind of way. And, OMG, it was cold.</p>
<p>I think the only thing I&#8217;ll choose to remember is the double steal. Yeah, that&#8217;s the ticket. There was this amazing double steal that was just like the way the pros do it.</p>
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