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	<title>Comments on: Five Days</title>
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	<description>Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267481</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A player&#039;s true talent level doesn&#039;t change with varying conditions; it might change the way that talent gets expressed on a per-situation basis, but the underlying talent level doesn&#039;t change. Raul Ibanez doesn&#039;t become a better or worse player for even one at-bat based on the dinner he just got done eating, or any other random variable.

That&#039;s why we call it true talent level; it is &quot;filtered&quot; from outside characteristics. The only way to do that, of course, is to look at a large enough sample size; random variation is exactly why you can&#039;t look at one play on Sportscenter and decide, based on that highlight reel, that Derek Jeter&#039;s a great defender.

Well, not if you expect anyone to care about your defensive evaluations, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A player&#8217;s true talent level doesn&#8217;t change with varying conditions; it might change the way that talent gets expressed on a per-situation basis, but the underlying talent level doesn&#8217;t change. Raul Ibanez doesn&#8217;t become a better or worse player for even one at-bat based on the dinner he just got done eating, or any other random variable.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we call it true talent level; it is &#8220;filtered&#8221; from outside characteristics. The only way to do that, of course, is to look at a large enough sample size; random variation is exactly why you can&#8217;t look at one play on Sportscenter and decide, based on that highlight reel, that Derek Jeter&#8217;s a great defender.</p>
<p>Well, not if you expect anyone to care about your defensive evaluations, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: marinersintheblood</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267479</link>
		<dc:creator>marinersintheblood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me feel a little better to look around the league and see who else is pretty much done already.  Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Texas are no surprise, but Colorado and San Diego?   Last year&#039;s World Series team and the team they beat in a one game, 13 inning playoff to get into the postseason?   Those fans must REALLY be feeling the sting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me feel a little better to look around the league and see who else is pretty much done already.  Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Texas are no surprise, but Colorado and San Diego?   Last year&#8217;s World Series team and the team they beat in a one game, 13 inning playoff to get into the postseason?   Those fans must REALLY be feeling the sting.</p>
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		<title>By: Manzanillos Cup</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267478</link>
		<dc:creator>Manzanillos Cup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Trying to make adjustments for specific contextual situations, and throwing out the rules of probability in the process, is how you end up with Jose Vidro as your DH.&lt;/em&gt;

What about playing platoon splits?  I can see how micro-managing based on small sample size contexts is folly, but so is making decisions without a player&#039;s skill set and health in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Trying to make adjustments for specific contextual situations, and throwing out the rules of probability in the process, is how you end up with Jose Vidro as your DH.</em></p>
<p>What about playing platoon splits?  I can see how micro-managing based on small sample size contexts is folly, but so is making decisions without a player&#8217;s skill set and health in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267472</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can.  It&#039;s this belief that you can&#039;t, and that everyone is special, and every situation is an exception, that leads to terrible, horrible roster decisions, and ridiculous notions like Miguel Batista reinventing himself into a frontline starting pitcher at age 38.  

When dealing with probability, it is implied that you are speaking in generalizations.  Trying to make adjustments for specific contextual situations, and throwing out the rules of probability in the process, is how you end up with Jose Vidro as your DH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can.  It&#8217;s this belief that you can&#8217;t, and that everyone is special, and every situation is an exception, that leads to terrible, horrible roster decisions, and ridiculous notions like Miguel Batista reinventing himself into a frontline starting pitcher at age 38.  </p>
<p>When dealing with probability, it is implied that you are speaking in generalizations.  Trying to make adjustments for specific contextual situations, and throwing out the rules of probability in the process, is how you end up with Jose Vidro as your DH.</p>
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		<title>By: Manzanillos Cup</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267470</link>
		<dc:creator>Manzanillos Cup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players do not have a “true talent level”, at least not in the sense that so many are using the phrase here.  

When Raul Ibanez is facing a LHP, and his shoulder is hurting, and the shellfish he ate for lunch isn’t sitting too well, and he’s got a speck of dust in his eye, he’s not going to perform as the “true talent level” Raul we expect from his career or seasonal averages.  Raul is not a .450 slugging “coin” –  he has skill sets that are affected by context.  If you’re playing poker, and you know that historically your opponent bluffs an average of 70% of the time, do you call his bluff without a second thought of the cards in play?  The point is, you can’t just assign someone a “true talent level” derived from an non-context specific average and claim that your “true talent level” is a good representation of probabilities involved in any one event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players do not have a “true talent level”, at least not in the sense that so many are using the phrase here.  </p>
<p>When Raul Ibanez is facing a LHP, and his shoulder is hurting, and the shellfish he ate for lunch isn’t sitting too well, and he’s got a speck of dust in his eye, he’s not going to perform as the “true talent level” Raul we expect from his career or seasonal averages.  Raul is not a .450 slugging “coin” –  he has skill sets that are affected by context.  If you’re playing poker, and you know that historically your opponent bluffs an average of 70% of the time, do you call his bluff without a second thought of the cards in play?  The point is, you can’t just assign someone a “true talent level” derived from an non-context specific average and claim that your “true talent level” is a good representation of probabilities involved in any one event.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJive</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyJive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll respond to that question in the upcoming greatly anticipated GRIFFEY POST!!

Sorry Jeff...I need a Red Bull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll respond to that question in the upcoming greatly anticipated GRIFFEY POST!!</p>
<p>Sorry Jeff&#8230;I need a Red Bull</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267458</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267457</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Like I saidbefore sign him now before he hits number #600&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and why would the Reds get rid of him before he hit 600 for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Like I saidbefore sign him now before he hits number #600</p></blockquote>
<p>and why would the Reds get rid of him before he hit 600 for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267456</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave&#039;s already said that he&#039;s working on a Griffey post. Please save that discussion for that post when it goes up.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8217;s already said that he&#8217;s working on a Griffey post. Please save that discussion for that post when it goes up.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJive</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/06/five-days/comment-page-3/#comment-267455</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyJive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I&#039;m past caring about that...
I just want a reason to watch this team again...
Like I saidbefore sign him now before he hits number #600</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;m past caring about that&#8230;<br />
I just want a reason to watch this team again&#8230;<br />
Like I saidbefore sign him now before he hits number #600</p>
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