U.S.S. Mariner

08 May

Game 36, Rangers at Mariners

Gabbard v Felix. 7:10. Chance to make up a game, with the A’s and Angels off.

On mariners.mlb.com, one of the rotating top stories is “Vote to send Beltre, Mariners to the Bronx.”

I started laughing when I saw the pictures. Yes! Let me go vote for Jose Vidro as the all-star DH.

Here’s your lineup of inexplicableness:
CF-L Ichiro!
DH-R Lopez
LF-L Ibanez
3B-R Beltre
1B-R Sexson
SS-R Betancourt
RF-R Balentien
C-R Johima
2B-R Bloomquist

384 Responses to “Game 36, Rangers at Mariners”

  1. 1
    Benne Says:

    No Clement? Boom Boom at 2nd? The hell you smoking, Mac?

  2. 2
    SequimRealEstate Says:

    Let just pick straws to see who DH’s the pick straws to see who plays 2nd base. Way to shake things up or shank things up. Sigh!!!!

  3. 3
    Benne Says:

    From Mac, via Baker re: Clement.

    “I think he might be pressing a little bit,” Mariners manager John McLaren said. “He’s trying to get his feet on the ground. They’re making some pitches on him and he’s pressing, so we’ll just let him take a deep breath.”

    Saying a guy is “pressing” is one of the most overused baseball cliches this side of “he plays the game the right way.”

  4. 4
    sealclubber253 Says:

    I hate to say it, but I think this is a better lineup than yesterday. Is Vidro hurt, or have they just finally realized how bad he is?

  5. 5
    confess Says:

    When I hear “he’s pressing”, I usually assume the speaker is too lazy to:

    a) Figure out the problem.

    b) Explain the problem.

    I am positive at least one of the above apply here.

  6. 6
    Benne Says:

    Apparently Turbo has back spasms. I guess somebody has to keep Cairo company on the bench so he won’t get too bored.

  7. 7
    DMZ Says:

    Vidro’s back is out.

  8. 8
    HamNasty Says:

    They need a Felix Day broadcast of this game where they only show the top half of innings. I am not interested in watching the offense act like a monkey fucking a football.

  9. 9
    JMHawkins Says:

    Saying a guy is “pressing” is one of the most overused baseball cliches this side of “he plays the game the right way.”

    But during an extended futility streak such as we are in, “pressing” becomes even more overused than “plays the game the right way.” Sort of like Pluto and Neptune’s orbits.

    So, when does Neptune become the farthest planet* from the sun again? Maybe we’ll make the playoffs again when that happens.

    * and I reject any hurtfull comments about Pluto not being a planet.

  10. 10
    Dave Says:

    The M’s crush lefties. They should do well against Gabbard tonight.

  11. 11
    Typical Idiot Fan Says:

    Vidro’s back is out.

    Then wake up Pepe!

  12. 12
    Sklyansky Says:

    When a person’s favorite “snack” is hotdogs, its pretty shocking that they aren’t out more often with back problems.

  13. 13
    Typical Idiot Fan Says:

    The M’s crush lefties. They should do well against Gabbard tonight.

    Except, isn’t Gabbard “good”? I was reading somewhere that he throws almost the exact same way that Bedard does, same break and movement and stuff, but with higher velocity.

  14. 14
    vj Says:

    The M’s crush lefties.

    IIRC, in 2006 the M’s struggled against lefties causing them to trade for Edouardo Perez. What’s odd about this is that all of today’s starters except Balentien were already on the roster at that time.

  15. 15
    Dave Says:

    Uh, no. Gabbard has a good sinker, no outpitch, and lousy command. He’s a decent back end starter, but he’s about as far from Bedard as a pitcher can get.

  16. 16
    dlb Says:

    “Designated Hitter” apparently translates into Marineragese as “washed up veteran”, “backup middle infielder”, or “mediocre second baseman”.

    Awesome. Go M’s!!! WOOOO! I can’t wait to see what’s next.

  17. 17
    Benne Says:

    So, when does Neptune become the farthest planet* from the sun again? Maybe we’ll make the playoffs again when that happens.

    * and I reject any hurtfull comments about Pluto not being a planet.

    Pluto is like the David Eckstein of the solar system. So small, so insignificant, yet so damn scrappy it’s adorable. Pluto will always be a planet in my heart.

  18. 18
    juneau_fan Says:

    I never understand the ‘he’s pressing so we’re going to sit him.’ I don’t know about anyone else, but sitting for me leads to brooding which leads to more pressing.

    But what do I know? Apparently putting Zito in the bullpen for a week stopped him from ‘pressing.’ (Although he did lose #7, he just didn’t do it as badly.)

  19. 19
    Tek Jansen Says:

    At least Mac didn’t play Cairo for a second straight night. I think that Cairo will have a 2005 Player A line in terms of average/OBP/slugging.

    At least Cairo will forego the surly attitude and gratuitously awful tatooes. I hope.

  20. 20
    Sports on a Schtick Says:

    I have freshly baked chocolate chip cookies. Damn Mariners aren’t making this night a complete disaster.

  21. 21
    Benne Says:

    Looks like another sparse crowd there. I’m setting the over/under on attendance at 20,000 (surely people will show up for Felix, no?)

  22. 22
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    The Forehead seems to be… growing?

  23. 23
    Benne Says:

    Dave Sims seems like he should be wearing cool sunglasses and working for an undercover organization, rather than being a baseball announcer and acting white.

  24. 24
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    23… naah, a superhero. The Forehead.

    Who would his arch-enemy be?

  25. 25
    Benne Says:

    Who would his arch-enemy be?

    Bill Krueger’s hair alone is villian-worthy.

  26. 26
    vin Says:

    If you are giving Clement the day off why not start WFB in left and let Ibanez DH? Or does that make too much sense?

  27. 27
    SpokaneMsFan Says:

    Is the audio all messed up for anyone else?

  28. 28
    Benne Says:

    Beltre once again reaffirms his awesomeness.

  29. 29
    Benne Says:

    Is the audio all messed up for anyone else?

    I hear it just fine on FSN. Are you watching it on mlb.tv?

  30. 30
    Jake Says:

    I’m in Spokane too, and the audio is fouled up. It’s actually an improvement though.

  31. 31
    SpokaneMsFan Says:

    I’m watching FSN but it must be Spokane only

  32. 32
    austinspace Says:

    Might be our bad luck in Spokane. My audio sounds like messages from Satan–or perhaps M’s management.

  33. 33
    Benne Says:

    Felix can’t place his fastball. Not good.

  34. 34
    Sentinel Says:

    “Designated Hitter” apparently translates into Marineragese as “washed up veteran”, “backup middle infielder”, or “mediocre second baseman”.

    Awesome. Go M’s!!! WOOOO! I can’t wait to see what’s next.

    My money is on this scenario:

    John McLaren, after being completely fed up with professional hitters and gritty veterans, makes the move of the century by calling in the Mariner Moose to DH. Amazingly enough, the Moose posts a slash line of .315/.448/.602 for the remainder of the season. However, the Mariners still fail to clinch the AL West as, over in Los Angeles of Anaheim (whaaaa…?!?), Mike Sikorsky (or whatever the hell his name is!) one-ups McLaren by batting the Rally Monkey lead-ff. The Monkey leads the LAA Angels into the top division spot, and, eventually, a World Series victory over the Philly Phanatic and his Phillies.

    Hey, crazier things have happened. I mean, Bill Bavasi traded Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez, for Christ’s sake.

  35. 35
    Benne Says:

    This is getting ugly fast.

  36. 36
    Sentinel Says:

    Might be our bad luck in Spokane. My audio sounds like messages from Satan–or perhaps M’s management.

    They’re synonymous, aren’t they?

  37. 37
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Mommy, where did the good Felix go?

  38. 38
    MedicineHat Says:

    Well, this game should be over…..one run is enough to beat the M’s….argh.

  39. 39
    Benne Says:

    Fairchild is not going to give him the outside pitch today.

  40. 40
    juneau_fan Says:

    One more run, and the game’s lost.

    And is it me, or does Ibanez look like Evil!Spock in the mirror universe with the goatee? Although a little bit of evil may help at this point.

  41. 41
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Bill Krueger’s hair alone is villian-worthy.

    Maybe it could team up with Rick Rizzs’ toupee?

  42. 42
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    … past a diving Sexson!

  43. 43
    G-Germ Says:

    2 - 0 … Dare I say GAME OVER?

  44. 44
    Benne Says:

    To people who don’t think 1B defense is important: Screw you.

  45. 45
    north Says:

    Pluto is like the David Eckstein of the solar system. So small, so insignificant, yet so damn scrappy it’s adorable. Pluto will always be a planet in my heart.

    And Pluto’s almost same-sized moon is like John Macdonald. In the background, an undervalued asset but perhaps just as valuable.

  46. 46
    OppositeField Says:

    my goodness Safeco Field is lifeless, this is pretty tough to watch

  47. 47
    Mike Snow Says:

    We could always bring Broussard back.

  48. 48
    notsohaole Says:

    Too many fastballs.

  49. 49
    notsohaole Says:

    Too many fastballs.

  50. 50
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    I haven’t been paying careful attention but… has Felix established his fastball?

  51. 51
    juneau_fan Says:

    past a diving Sexson!

    Diving suggests too much athleticism to me. I see him more as a toppling redwood, or perhaps, when he gives real effort, a giraffe when shot with a tranquilizer gun.

    And meanwhile, that Band-aid is being pulled, hair by hair, sllllooowwwllly off….

  52. 52
    SpokaneMsFan Says:

    If I only had a dollar for every grounder that got past Richie as he “dives” to his left. Well I was on the fence about getting season tickets to the Indians (Spokane) but seeing as Mariners baseball isn’t going to be fun this summer, Avista Stadium here I come! So at least they settled that for me.

  53. 53
    Typical Idiot Fan Says:

    Real headline on seattlemariners.com right now:

    Seattle seeking third straight victory over Texas

    Buh?

  54. 54
    SpokaneMsFan Says:

    That would be his right, my left as I watch him, whoops.

  55. 55
    DMZ Says:

    OMG Niehaus will get a memo on use of “King Felix” during the broadcast for that one.

  56. 56
    coffeemonkey100 Says:

    From the M’s front page “Mariners seeking third straight win versus Texas”. Could someone please explain this? All of M’s nation is living in fantasy land! My, Oh, My.

  57. 57
    Sentinel Says:

    51,

    I see Richie’s flopping around as more of a “Weekend at Bernie’s” flop when the music stops.

  58. 58
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    We’re half way to our hit total from yesterday and it’s only the first inning! Things are looking up!

    Plus, I think there are at least five more people there tonight. Perhaps six.

  59. 59
    Sentinel Says:

    I’m just looking at the ESPN box score, and see that the King has walked two and K’d ZERO!!! If Felix fails me… I… I don’t know what I’ll do!

  60. 60
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    55… what did he say?

  61. 61
    CCW Says:

    Sorry - I don’t get it. What would the memo to Dave say about his use of the term “King Felix”.

  62. 62
    north Says:

    Might be our bad luck in Spokane. My audio sounds like messages from Satan–or perhaps M’s management.

    They’re synonymous, aren’t they?

    Satan is malevolent. Mariners management are inept.

  63. 63
    Sentinel Says:

    60,

    It’s been said that they don’t want the announcers to use the term “King Felix”, as they feel it’ll add pressure to the kid. As if he doesn’t already know what the entire world calls him.

  64. 64
    Sentinel Says:

    61,

    Well put.

  65. 65
    Benne Says:

    Well. The Bellingham Bells start playing next month. Guess I’ll save my money and go watch Jake Locker.

  66. 66
    Mike Snow Says:

    The broadcasters have been instructed not to call him that on air by Howard Lincoln

  67. 67
    WTF_Ms Says:

    Well, at least we’ll get this one over with early too…I got things to do…I can’t be wasting my time hoping we’ll get a hit…(Outside Ichiro that is)

  68. 68
    HamNasty Says:

    Felix doesn’t hear the broadcast, why does it matter?

  69. 69
    Benne Says:

    This is what it sounds like when doves cry.

  70. 70
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Are these guys blind? It didn’t hit him on the elbow! I’m sure it hurt, but that wasn’t hit elbow.

  71. 71
    Mike Snow Says:

    You’d have to ask Howard that.

  72. 72
    CCW Says:

    It doesn’t matter. Lincoln doesn’t have a clue what matters when it comes to the details of running a baseball team.

  73. 73
    coffeemonkey Says:

    #53: Moral victories, moral victories. They were behind the 8 ball last night, only losing by 2 when behind the 8 ball is a moral victory.

  74. 74
    north Says:

    Wait ’til later in the season. It’ll be like those midsummer Orioles-Royals or Pirates-Nationals tilts of recent years. Almost no reason to watch - too few young interesting players and bad teams. Ichiro, Beltre isn’t enough and Felix is one in five.

    (Actually, scratch that - Ichiro is unique and entertaining enough to tune in every couple of innings.)

  75. 75
    jspektor Says:

    Hey M’s faithful, jspektor here at the game again … decided to go back for more abuse … although I dont know why (iphones are awesome, lets me check this site)…

    Anyways I decided that I am becoming that guy from the Major League series (Randy Quaid) who somehow goes to every game, but Boo’s the team the whole way through wearing Indians gear that is crossed out and inside out.

    Here is a quote from the movie while talks about Rick ‘Wild Thing’ Vaughn (Charlie Sheen):

    “NO! You rotten bums! You overpaid weenies! Mild thing, you make my butt sting! I *detest* you! You’re all garbage! All of ya! Back up the truck! Back it up! ”

    That who I’ve become … and I have to say after a few beers its kind of fun.

    I just hope we have a movie ending this year. over and out.

  76. 76
    Benne Says:

    Johjima caught that ball. Dammit.

  77. 77
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Who starts warming up in the bullpen?

  78. 78
    WTF_Ms Says:

    Here we go…..2 run shot.

    I guess the good news is that Felix is throwing strikes?

  79. 79
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Haha. Niehaus: “Here are two upcoming kids’ giveaways.”

    Hmm, does that mean Triunfel and Clement for Griffey??

  80. 80
    juneau_fan Says:

    Now the Band-aid is stuck on the scab. *OWWW*

  81. 81
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Damnit! I really want to watch this team……..but for Christ’s sake, this is just awful.

  82. 82
    Benne Says:

    Time for Baek.

  83. 83
    joser Says:

    The M’s gotta start playing bad teams. Playing these teams with killer pitching that mutes their offense….

    Oh, wait.

    Crap, they may never win a game again.

  84. 84
    lailaihei Says:

    So… I don’t know if I can watch the Mariners ever again.

  85. 85
    Tom Says:

    30 minutes in and game over.

    Worst team in the American League, ladies and gentlemen.

  86. 86
    SpokaneMsFan Says:

    WTF, I was just going off at work how I don’t care if we’re down 20 games in the middle of August I’m still happy on Felix day. I guess I jinxed them.

  87. 87
    Sentinel Says:

    Time for Baek.

    Screw Baek! We don’t happen to have a guy with the last name of Christ in the ‘pen, do we?

  88. 88
    pensive Says:

    I am so happy FSN is replaying this game not only 11pm tonite, but also tomorrow at noon.

  89. 89
    Lauren, token chick Says:

    Soooo… what’s the nearest team to us geographically? San Francisco/Oakland? Or Colorado? Just, yknow. Just wondering. Not planning on deserting the sinking ship or nuthin’.

  90. 90
    Benne Says:

    60 pitches in 1/13 innings. Brutal, just brutal.

  91. 91
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Joe’s tracer is the most worthless piece of shit that FSN could possibly use.

  92. 92
    Benne Says:

    Er, 1 1/3 innings.

  93. 93
    Sklyansky Says:

    They probably won’t score 4 runs in the next ten games combined, so its probably safe to say this is over.

    This feels like ‘04 all over again. Maybe I can finally stop watching baseball, in much the same way I’ve completely stopped watching basketball. It would be convenient regarding time and money.

  94. 94
    Benne Says:

    Good Felix! Thanks for showing up, can you get your evil twin off the mound please?

  95. 95
    jspektor Says:

    BOOOOOOOOOOO. Time to quote Bob Yuker the announcer from the Major League series … I just have to put up another couple quotes that apply to the Mariners.

    Harry Doyle: Remember, fans, Tuesday is Die Hard Night. Free admission for anyone who was actually alive the last time the Indians won the pennant.

    and

    Harry Doyle: That’s all we got, one goddamn hit?
    Assistant: You can’t say goddamn on the air.
    Harry Doyle: Don’t worry, nobody is listening anyway.

    Hahahhaha I’m done. So sad. At least the scalper outside gave me the ticket for 4 dollars … a new record low.

  96. 96
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    I’m actually going to wear a bag over my head on Saturday at the game.

    Well, I think I have to go pull teeth.

  97. 97
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    I’m actually going to wear a bag over my head on Saturday at the game.

    Well, I think I have to go pull teeth.

  98. 98
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Felix is really Frank Drebin.

    “Hey, it’s Enrico Palazzo!”

  99. 99
    vin Says:

    It seems to me that since the Oakland game Felix has been throwing more fastballs than anything else (this inning notwithstanding) and it’s cost him. He had a lot of success just blowing pitches by that lineup, but the last two games not so much.

  100. 100
    Sports on a Schtick Says:

    Buster Olney says the M’s have internally discussed sending Turbo down to Tacoma.

    Mojo Risin’.

  101. 101
    Tom Says:

    Chuck Armstrong and Howard Lincoln better realize FAST what Bill Bavasi has given us in 5 years.

    Fire his ass, NOW.

  102. 102
    Jay R. Says:

    This is becoming useless even as background noise while I putter around on the PC. So ugly.

  103. 103
    Benne Says:

    4 batters, 4 groundballs. Puke.

  104. 104
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Something else is risin’, and it ain’t Mojo.

  105. 105
    MojoSinking Says:

    Big Richieeeeeeeee, he can swim the nile with a corcodile

  106. 106
    WTF_Ms Says:

    Oh by the way…Here’s Norton’s line thus far this year:

    BA HR RBI OBP SLG
    .474 0 7 .524 .579

    And here’s Willies:

    .185 0 2 .333 .185

    Who should we have traded???

  107. 107
    DMZ Says:

    I wish the broadcast crew had some latitude for when to plug season tickets and stuff. Having Dave go on about how long it’s been since the M’s have scored any runs, down 4-0 in the second inning, horrible record, you have to think there’ll be a better chance to plug a 16-game plan.

  108. 108
    north Says:

    Vidro plan - back spasm lurch to the disable list - preferably the 60 day.

  109. 109
    Benne Says:

    Does anyone else hold their breath in dread whenever Yuni swings at a pitch away?

  110. 110
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Hey, the Rangers have just designated a lefty bat. Maybe we should pick him up.

  111. 111
    Benne Says:

    Fuck this. I’m watching Survivor.

  112. 112
    MojoSinking Says:

    Greg Norton… hmm, why keep Cairo…oh thats right, hes a mark mclemore, but worse.

  113. 113
    Jay R. Says:

    Mid-80s all over again. Was that Spike Owen grounding into a DP?

  114. 114
    Sklyansky Says:

    Yeah, I think I’m going to tune out. Not sure if there’s a Nielsen box in my house, but don’t want to take the chance of helping out the ratings for this garbage.

  115. 115
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Hell, even a mediocre team would feel like they had a chance at coming back if they were 4 runs down heading into the bottom of the 3rd. Not the M’s, no sir, 4 runs down in the 3rd, at home, with Felix pitching better and we have no shot, no fucking shot.

  116. 116
    joser Says:

    Seattle to:
    Oakland: 677 miles
    SF: 679 miles
    Denver: 1021 miles

    That’s city center to city center, not ballfield to ballfield. Of course, the A’s will be moving further south when they become the Alameda A’s of Oakland at Cisco Field in Fremont(or WhateverTF they’re going to be called) in 2012 so the Giants will definitely be closer.

    Personally, I think I’m going to become a Rays fan. Still plenty of room on that bandwagon.

    Man, Rizzs sounds like he needs a belt of Zoloft. Even announcing WFB, his favorite player, his relentless perky boosterism has been beaten into the dirt.

  117. 117
    Sentinel Says:

    Am I now allowed to be happy that Kinsler hit a HR? He is on my fantasy team.

  118. 118
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Hey look, it’s Indiana Jones, over behind the M’s dugout.

  119. 119
    crazyray7391 Says:

    As bad as this is, I could never bring myself to cheer for a different team. I’m a Mariners fan through and through, but this does suck.

  120. 120
    Benne Says:

    Yeah, I’m not ready to change my loyalties. It’s getting to the point where the losing is becoming compelling, almost comical.

  121. 121
    justinh Says:

    http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/roughcut/2008/05/steve_kelley_rough_cut_582008_1.html

    This will at least make you laugh your ass off!

  122. 122
    lailaihei Says:

    There are very few reasons to be a Mariners fan right now…
    =/
    I don’t think I’ll ever betray the Ms, but the Rays and A’s are definitely rising in stock in terms of teams that I follow…

  123. 123
    juneau_fan Says:

    Buster Olney says the M’s have internally discussed sending Turbo down to Tacoma.

    What for? What skills he tune?

    Why did Sims’ comment, “Felix has already hit Laird once,” sound like a veiled thread? Watch out, Buddy! You don’t strike out, and he’s gonna knock you down!

  124. 124
    eternal Says:

    When is the last time the Mariners scored a run?

  125. 125
    sealclubber253 Says:

    105—

    Cairo. 000 0 1rbi. How many batters in the AL are still hitting 0 with 10 or more at bats?

  126. 126
    praetor Says:

    have a little faith, yeah felix had a shitty start, but he has 4 k’s and looks like he can get back on track, my highschool baseball team has better offense though

  127. 127
    praetor Says:

    have a little faith, yeah Felix had a shitty start, but he has 4 k’s and looks like he can get back on track, my high school baseball team has better offense though

  128. 128
    BlazerD Says:

    I just tuned in. Ouch.

  129. 129
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Thank God the right field wall was there to stop that one from getting out. YEAH!!! Great defense.

  130. 130
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    119… I liked “So what should they do with Richie Sexson?”

  131. 131
    Benne Says:

    When is the last time the Mariners scored a run?

    It happened around the last time Halley’s Comet appeared.

  132. 132
    praetor Says:

    Ok, never the fuck mind, GODDAMNIT get your shit together!

  133. 133
    vin Says:

    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Felix will be out for the 5th at 101 pitches.

  134. 134
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Blowers is taking some of the blame for the lack of offense because he hasn’t given out the rally fries for a couple games. Damnit Blow, you’re supposed to be on top of this shit.

  135. 135
    Benne Says:

    People who bring signs asking for Rally Fries shouldn’t be allowed in the stadium. God, what a bunch of tools.

  136. 136
    juneau_fan Says:

    The Ball Girl’s been getting fielding tips from Richie over there on the first base side….

  137. 137
    crazyray7391 Says:

    15 million dollars, well spent!!!!

  138. 138
    justinh Says:

    Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  139. 139
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    I went to a fight, and a baseball game broke out!

  140. 140
    ndrfx Says:

    YAH BABY!!!

  141. 141
    cgmonk Says:

    Fight!

  142. 142
    justinh Says:

    RITCHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  143. 143
    Swungonandbelted Says:

    most excitement I’ve seen out of the M’s in 4 days

  144. 144
    crazyray7391 Says:

    Who’s Felix going after? The home plate ump?

  145. 145
    HamNasty Says:

    WTF lol Hide Felix!

  146. 146
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Eddie!

  147. 147
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    That was nowhere near Richie’s head. Is he mentally retarded?

  148. 148
    juneau_fan Says:

    And Milton Bradley blows his knee out picking up his fat ol’ catcher.

  149. 149
    jspektor Says:

    People who bring signs asking for Rally Fries shouldn’t be allowed in the stadium. God, what a bunch of tools.

    AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN

  150. 150
    joser Says:

    There’s your “family friendly” M’s, Chuck.

    Sexson is like those big guys they put on hockey teams in the 70s — no talent, just there to get in fight. Though nobody paid millions of dollars for those guys.

  151. 151
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Why exactly is the crowd cheering?

  152. 152
    lailaihei Says:

    XD this is ridiculous. Maybe the Mariners should punish this guy with their bats rather than their fists.

  153. 153
    PaulMolitorCocktail Says:

    Felix may have a ten cent head, he’s not someone the Ms can afford to lose due to injuries from fighting.

  154. 154
    juneau_fan Says:

    I assume Ichiro took this opportunity to go get a soy milk from the vending machine.

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    jspektor Says:

    149 -

    Either the Hydro’s, Groundskeeper dance or a fielders choice. Potentially captain f*ing plastic.

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    _David_ Says:

    Sexson is such an idiot.

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    joser Says:

    Well, it’s sure a good thing they’ve got Broussard and Norton on the bench so they have someone who can play 1st…

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    ndrfx Says:

    Hahah, this is the highlight of the season so far.

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    Sklyansky Says:

    I’m so glad I tuned back in. Signs of life!

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    HamNasty Says:

    Props for Beltre getting in quick and digging Richie out of the pile of Rangers.

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    jspektor Says:

    Maybe they can all get thrown out.

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    Benne Says:

    Holy shit, did I miss a fight? Damn you Survivor! Can somebody give me a play-by-play?

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    vin Says:

    That was fun, but Cairo? COME ON!

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    G-Man Says:

    I didn’t think it was all that close to Richie either, but I guess he was figuring it was intended to be a payback.

    I disagree with Blowers, I think that getting down would be the best way to avoid a knee or ankle injury a la Bradley. Yeah, you might take a few punches, but you know your mates are going to be in there damn quick.

    And yes, the is something that might get the M’s going. Nothing else has worked lately, so I’m all for trying anything.

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    tgf Says:

    That was completely stupid. The pitch wasn’t even close. Pent up frustration at your plummeting career, Richie?

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    outtathequestion Says:

    Sooo what just happened for those who missed it? A play by play would be appriciated :D

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    Carson Says:

    I don’t know. Saying it was “nowhere near his head” isn’t completely accurate. It was head level, but over the plate. Guys don’t generally miss that high. Sexson is pretty tall.

    On the flip side, that doesn’t mean he was throwing at him either. Sexson is a big target, and probably not that hard to miss if you are a major league pitcher.

    Tough to say, but I could see why Sexson would be upset after that. Guys go up to the plate in that situation cautious of being hit because of what happened in the previous half inning. So, when something comes head level, you’re going to see someone get angry.

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    Lorenzo Says:

    Does anyone know what exactly just happened?

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    Scooter4 Says:

    You figure Gabbard would be smarter than to throw near the head of a guy who is 6 foot 8, especially since Felix had already plunked one of their guys.

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    justinh Says:


    Sexson is such an idiot.

    That was the best thing Sexson could do. He knew he was going to get thrown at after the Kinsler and Laird pitches by Felix. He took the opportunity to light a fire. That is what veterans do. Had nothing to do about the pitch being up. He was looking to start a fire. Great job Ritchie!!!

    If you have ever played competitive ball you would know Ritchie did the right thing. Everyone knew with 2 outs he was going down there.

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    HamNasty Says:

    Ya send Felix back out there, McLaren must be a special kind of smart.

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    opiate82 Says:

    On the bright side I bet throwing his helmet at the guy earns Richie a few days off courtesy of the league.

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    bunk_medal Says:

    165 - Agreed, it was the situation that led to that reaction, not the location of the pitch per se.

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    MarinersDave Says:

    Fight video up on mlb.com

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    justinh Says:

    Felix threw at Kinsler after HR. Threw in on Laird, the catcher. Gabbard quickly got 2 outs and no one on and one of the M’s big guns up, he threw up and somewhat in on Ritchie. He charged, took his helmet and threw it at Gabbard. Got maybe one good blow in. Broken up quick. Felix was chirping like he always does when the benches clear. Ichiro and Bedard were absent.

    Good move Ritchie.

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    Swungonandbelted Says:

    Nice catch Ichiro!

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    Carson Says:

    If you have ever played competitive ball you would know Ritchie did the right thing. Everyone knew with 2 outs he was going down there.

    Wow. Really? You’re new around here, aren’t you?

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    jspektor Says:

    Sims is such a moron, its absolutely ridiculous.

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    DougP Says:

    Gabbard threw a high pitch that wasn’t really that far inside to Sexson. Richie turned his head when he saw the pitch was riding high. Richie imediately threw his bat down and charge the mound carrying his helmet. Gabbard threw down his glove and held his ground. Richie threw his helmet (not very hard) at Gabbard. He took a low position as Richie came up on him. Richie jumped him with the catcher Laird piling on top. I’m kind of embarassed as a M’s fan to tell you the truth about the whole thing.

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    clueless joe Says:

    Love how Sims is commenting the whole time on what an excellent job Guardado was doing of calming down Felix. What a great job of calming!!!

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    justinh Says:

    [this is not a board]

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    Tom in Edmonds Says:

    juneau_fan Says:

    I assume Ichiro took this opportunity to go get a soy milk from the vending machine.

    LOL That is Priceless……

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    fetish Says:

    This is a no-heart team. less heart than No-heart Anythony.

    It’s time someone in the clubhouse said so.

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    scraps Says:

    If you have ever played competitive ball

    I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a reasonable argument that included this phrase.

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    eternal Says:

    Was Gabbard just shaken up? Why did he leave?

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    killer_ewok18 Says:

    They have soy milk? I doubt it. It’s not veterany enough. Probably just 2%.

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    bunk_medal Says:

    “I’m kind of embarassed as a M’s fan to tell you the truth about the whole thing.”

    I’m more embarrassed about the fact that the team is incapable of scoring runs. Personally, I thought it was hugely entertaining.

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    jspektor Says:

    177 - This is an all time low for Mariner baseball. I disagree with starting a fight … why cant he just hit the ball.

    I’m glad Ritchie did what he needed to do.

    do you mean hit the ball? oh wait, he doesnt do what he needs to do

  189. 189
    griffin Says:

    im all for Richie charging the mound. yeah it wasnt THAT close, but it was indeed high and somewhat inside.

    the team had 1 hit at that point, through 4 innings.
    might as well try and spark this team which is falling fast in this early season.
    if anything it just pumped up his teammates.

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    Benne Says:

    I maybe new on this board but I played ball my entire life and know when you are in a funk like we are sometimes the best thing is to try and light a fire whenever you can. The Mariners are known for being soft. I’m glad Ritchie did what he needed to do.

    This sounds like the kind of nonsense Joe Morgan would spout out.

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    praetor Says:

    [nope]

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    Carson Says:

    DougP - You have much better reasons to be embarrassed than a silly fight. The majority of people who see it on ESPN tonight will chuckle, then forget about it in a couple days.

    At which time, they’ll still remember this is a poorly run franchise headed in the wrong direction.

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    DougP Says:

    It looked like his knees buckled a little on the collision. He may of had a slight limp walking into the dugout. Maybe I saw it wrong

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    justinh Says:


    From Geoff Baker Blog —-Hernandez had hit Ian Kinsler with an inside pitch in the top of the inning that the latter did little to get out of the way of. The pair exchanged some words. Earlier on, Hernandez had plunked Gerald Laird. Laird had to be picked up piggyback style by massive teammate Brandon Boggs when he did his own “hold me back” thing and got too close to reigniting the fracas. Sexson didn’t hesitate. I think he expected this might happen and knew what he was going to do before the pitch was thrown. Anyhow, nothing wrong with what he did. But Hernandez has to cut it out.

  195. 195
    killer_ewok18 Says:

    Sims has the first “no doubt about it” at precisely 9:00 pm. Bet no one had him in the pool.

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    naviomelo Says:

    Attendance was 22,922.

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    scraps Says:

    When good teams are getting their asses kicked, they get their act together and kick some ass back. When crap teams are getting their asses kicked, they take some lame excuse to “light a fire”.

    This is a no-heart team.

    It’s a no-hit, no-field team. “Heart” isn’t going to fix that.

  198. 198
    Scooter4 Says:

    What ever happened to the times with a fight would amp up both the players and the fans and get them into it? Now it’s just going to be people taking verbal shots at Richie, even though he did the right thing in that situation. Maybe instead of charging the mound he should have taken Gabbard out to dinner after the game and they could have talked it over. Nothing gets people fired up like civilized debate.

  199. 199
    Carson Says:

    justinh - Fine, I won’t try to convince you that there is no such thing as pixie dust that makes baseball players better after they try to “start a fire.”

    But, could you at least spell Richie right? There is no t in his name.

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    HamNasty Says:

    It really was not that bad. Richie charges and throws the helmet then everyone just kind of hugged. No punches, headlocks, or kicks that I saw. It isn’t going to spark the team nor is it a disgrace to the team.

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    hate the bugle Says:

    The Mariners are playing tonite? I was watching Overhaulin’.

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    jspektor Says:

    194 -

    I think I agree with that … I think there should be more brawls - if anything they are hilarious …

  203. 203
    scraps Says:

    that pussywhipped texas pitcher was so scared, he walked even Cairo on 4 (3) straight

    Are the ESPN boards broken tonight or something?

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    scraps Says:

    Right, Scooter4, because there’s no middle ground between making an ass out of yourself charging the mound for no good reason and a tea party.

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    Benne Says:

    Whatever happened to the good ol’ days when Robin Ventura gets his ass whooped by a pitcher twice his age?

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    juneau_fan Says:

    My god, it’s only the fifth inning. What a game…and not in a good way.

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    Carson Says:

    scraps - If I give you directions, could you go pick up Sexson, drive down here and have him punch me in the head so I’ll pass out and not have to read this stuff anymore?

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    Scooter4 Says:

    No good reason? I’d say having a fastball thrown at me after my pitcher had already hit one of their guys is as good a reason as any. If he hadn’t done anything, everyone here would questioning why he didn’t stand his ground and do something about it.

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    tgf Says:

    Now it’s just going to be people taking verbal shots at Richie, even though he did the right thing in that situation.

    No, it really wasn’t the right thing to do. Charge the mound if someone throws at you head, not if they throw high but nowhere near your head. He was just looking for an excuse to go vent his frustrations. He was a washed-up player before and now he is a washed-up player who made a fool of himself.

  210. 210
    dnc Says:

    176 - thank you, jspektor, for proving that you’re not actually at the game. You’re “I’m Randy Quaid” schtick was a little tough to swalllow. Glad to see you’re just a fraud, rather than the alternative.

  211. 211
    profmac Says:

    You guys are ridiculous. You are so down on the team.. Why don’t you go and get behind some other team. Damn. Find a better use for your time than to rip on a team that you are supposedly a fan of. Give me a break.

    This team has no heart… This team sucks…. Seriously.. shut your damn mouths

    I’m glad Richie went after that guy… it was quite amusing to see how rattled he was after that… Now he can go drink some warm milk and have his mommy tuck him in.

  212. 212
    paulkersey Says:

    When I was playin’ ball, Ol’ Frank Baker used to throw his bat at the pitcher just to put a skeer in ‘im. A ball player warn’t worth his weight in tobacee juice if he didn’t sock someone every now and then. Bunch a sissies playin’ these days.

  213. 213
    justinh Says:

    But, could you at least spell Richie right? There is no t in his name.

    That was good. R-I-C-H-I-E.

    Good thing it wasn’t German (current Texas pitcher) who Richie charged. Don’t think anyone would make it out alive.

    I remember the brawl in Balt. Boz broke collerbone and Ripken almost ended steak.

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    jspektor Says:

    207 - I’m sorry I left before the brawl, I am not a fraud. Thank you very much. 4 dollar ticket, free parking. What’s the problem?

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    bunk_medal Says:

    201 - you must admit that, at worst, it was somewhat entertaining. Nobody was hurt, it didn’t harm the reputation of the team to any great extent and it’ll all be forgotten about by those concerned within an hour of the game being over. It’s a bit of theatre and drama, there’s nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

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    Scooter4 Says:

    Oh yeah. I forgot that only all-stars are allowed to show emotion during a game. “Washed up” players should just run back to the dugout and hide whenever confrontation arises.

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    jspektor Says:

    And yes, I am a very depressed fan who has to get up for work at 530 in the morning so I cant stay all hours of the night, especially freezing my ass off and watching us suck more than ever.

    You want to come to a game with me?

  218. 218
    paulkersey Says:

    Second Sims-generated “no doubt about it.”

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    HamNasty Says:

    You would have thought we threw the ball at each others head. Why is it a big issue?

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    area 51 Says:

    R-I-C-H-I-E is da man!

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    msb Says:

    well, I missed a few things, apparently.

    about all I saw of the game was Felix hitting Kinsler, and I thought it was odd the way Kinsler & Joh & the ump reacted. Guess you needed the whole story. well, glad I missed the histrionics, and also glad I missed the ensuing discussion.

  222. 222
    tgf Says:

    Oh yeah. I forgot that only all-stars are allowed to show emotion during a game. “Washed up” players should just run back to the dugout and hide whenever confrontation arises.

    I’d rather have a first baseman who can hit than a drama queen. And the “confrontation” was a pitch that was high, but not really all that close to his head. He made a mountain out of a mole hill.

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    paulkersey Says:

    You would have thought we threw the ball at each others head. Why is it a big issue?

    We’re washed up commenters venting our frustrations.

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    smb Says:

    Holy hell, that was funny…get wild with Sexson? You want to come up and/or inside on someone, why not someone who isn’t going to get himself out if you only throw a few strikes?

    Then, the crowning piece of the video…Kinsler (looks like) and Yuni appear to be in a 1 on 1 at the outskirts of the scrum, looks like maybe a punch will be thrown…then it looks like maybe Kinsler is just restraining Yuni, then it looks like they might be restraining each other, only neither of them is trying to hurt the other, and neither is trying to get away. At the end it just looks like they’re hugging and gently rocking each other from side to side in a loving embrace. High comedy.

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    scraps Says:

    Scooter4, the pitch wasn’t thrown at Richie. Confrontation didn’t “arise”; Sexson provoked the confrontation. “Emotion” is a straw man, and not the first one you’ve set up and knocked over.

    profmac, you don’t have the authority to tell anyone to shut up.

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    ianbrown Says:

    Mom’s day t-shirts!? oh how i love my mom

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    Benne Says:

    201 - you must admit that, at worst, it was somewhat entertaining. Nobody was hurt, it didn’t harm the reputation of the team to any great extent and it’ll all be forgotten about by those concerned within an hour of the game being over. It’s a bit of theatre and drama, there’s nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

    Indeed. There are differing degrees that determines whether a fight is entertaining or not.

    Sexson throwing a hissy fit and fighting like a girl=funny.

    Ron Artest leaping into the stands and the arena devolving into a riot=not funny.

    Nolan Ryan making Robin Ventura his bitch=award worthy.

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    jspektor Says:

    [this is not a board]

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    paulkersey Says:

    This is the point in the movie where somebody (me) yells, “Stop fighting! That’s exactly what they want us to do!”

  230. 230
    Swungonandbelted Says:

    holy crap a hit…

  231. 231
    Benne Says:

    You guys are ridiculous. You are so down on the team.. Why don’t you go and get behind some other team. Damn. Find a better use for your time than to rip on a team that you are supposedly a fan of. Give me a break.

    I would rather criticize my team for its obvious flaws and mismanagement than blindly drink the Kool-Aid, laugh at their dumb commercials and beg for Rally Fries.

  232. 232
    justinh Says:

    Gotta amdit guys. Richie made some good connection with the helmet!!!

  233. 233
    HamNasty Says:

    smb- Just saw the Kinsler and Yuni dance, it kind of got romantic near the end.

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    profmac Says:

    I have ALL authority. I am a man. haha. A real man.

    What kind of soy milk do you think Ichiro drinks… I’m thinking about making a run to the grocery store.

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    jspektor Says:

    I would rather criticize my team for its obvious flaws and mismanagement than blindly drink the Kool-Aid, laugh at their dumb commercials and beg for Rally Fries.

    amen.

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    paulkersey Says:

    What kind of soy milk do you think Ichiro drinks… I’m thinking about making a run to the grocery store.

    You couldn’t afford Ichiro’s brand.

  237. 237
    profmac Says:

    I just get tired of all the bitching.. It’s like reading commentary from the view. Only everyone is Joy Behar… Gosh, I hate that woman.

  238. 238
    juneau_fan Says:

    holy crap a hit…

    Totally. I was like, whaaaa? And it’s a man in white running! Whooo!