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You know, if you could average out all those runs….
(My head is in liquid nitrogen and my feet are in flames, but on average I’m just fine…)
May 10th, 2008 at 9:04 amIs that the total AL average, or just the average minus the M’s?
May 10th, 2008 at 9:21 amnow, that’s offensive.
May 10th, 2008 at 9:34 amIt disturbs me how much that looks like a normal distribution of data. I’m trying to remember all the stuff about kurtosis from grad school and figure out what comes next!
May 10th, 2008 at 9:58 amIt’s the AL average, just like the label says, nothing fancy.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:01 amOn my screen the label says A_ average… but dang, what msb said.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:33 amHey, we’re better than we should be. We’ve scored above the average 12 times but won 14. Nice pitching staff for the most part.
But: yeccchhh. Four out of the last twenty is not good. It’s almost like we have a roster full of Cairos and Bloomquists.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:35 am12 games with above AL average runs scored, 25 games with below AL average runs. Awesome.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:43 amAlso, remember when everyone (present company excepted) thought the major off-season need was a #1 starter? Yeah.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:45 amMaybe in shape, but it means nothing - a histogram of runs scored might reasonably be normal, but the x-axis here is date, not runs scored.
May 10th, 2008 at 10:50 amSo, what you’re saying is that our offense is below average? That we would be better off trotting eight pitchers and a catcher out there? That’s OK, this team’s strength is defense, according to the Evil Rick Rizzs. Seriously, have you compared (or do you plan to compare) our DH (or heck, half our lineup) to what NL pitchers are hitting?
May 10th, 2008 at 12:05 pmMicah Owings, well hell the whole D-Backs staff, is producing more than our DH.
May 10th, 2008 at 12:13 pmYeah, Dave wrote it up over at Fangraphs.
May 10th, 2008 at 12:21 pm3 -
very offensive, [Mariners] [can't] be talking about my momma that way
May 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pmYeah, but probably more of a Poisson distribution (unless there is a positive probability of the Mariners scoring negative runs. Was Sexson trying to do that during that bizarre let’s get me suspended incident?
May 10th, 2008 at 12:29 pmI know I warned all my casual fan friends that the team wasn’t that well built and the offense and defense wasn’t good enough to support the good pitching. They actually thought they were going all the way this year, which I told them no, they will just be average at best, infact below the A’s. I wasn’t expected them to implode, not this early in the season.
I am just wondering, Dave or Derek, with the current team, do you expect the team to even out towards the mean after they break out of the slump, or do you expect them to continue to play this poorly with the current roster construction?
May 10th, 2008 at 12:37 pm14 and 23… how’d we ever win 14.
It’s a miracle!
May 10th, 2008 at 2:31 pmwhat I learned about the Mariners on the drive home today, and frankly, I thought I’d be safe listening on a saturday …
a) They have no fire in their belly. I’m not sure what fire in the belly is, or how it gets there, but golly there are a lot of guys who think you need it to win in baseball.
b) there is no leadership in the clubhouse. Not in the players, and not in the manager. Why, gosh, just look at the Rockies last year, or at the D-backs — they don’t have any more talent than any other team, but they obviously have leadership that tells them they can win.
May 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pmYeah, but probably more of a Poisson distribution (unless there is a positive probability of the Mariners scoring negative runs. Was Sexson trying to do that during that bizarre let’s get me suspended incident?
Runs are actually distributed in a Weibullian fashion (the Poisson distribution is a special case of the Weibull distribution). You can read more about that at the following two links:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/consistency-is-key-part-two/
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/consistency-is-key/
Since actual runs are a discrete thing, Derek, it might make more sense to show your plot with the AL mode runs scored instead of mean, but your point is well made either way.
May 10th, 2008 at 3:41 pmtwo of those shut outs are from Texas….wtf
May 10th, 2008 at 10:33 pm