Comments on: Stacked for your convenience http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: msb http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-271021 msb Wed, 14 May 2008 16:44:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-271021 <blockquote>As an aside (?)… in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed.</blockquote> it appears to say that it was <a href="http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070927/BLOG05/70927012&SearchID=73317634834528" rel="nofollow">"a winning season"</a> that did it.

As an aside (?)… in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed.

it appears to say that it was “a winning season” that did it.

]]> By: Breadbaker http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270965 Breadbaker Wed, 14 May 2008 05:28:41 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270965 This is pretty ridiculous, if you think about it. In a real business, you'd look at performance rationally, see that the M's were basically lucky last year, and treat the "slight bump" as having nothing to do with either Bavasi's or McLaren's performance, and bring in someone capable of getting the team younger, faster and cheaper. The M's fell apart in 2004, the same year the Diamondbacks did, and the Diamondbacks looked at their problems rationally and built a real contender. Last year, they were about as lucky as the M's but they knew they had gobs of young talent coming up, cashed some of it in for Haren, and put the rest on the field. We traded for Bedard and signed the highest-paid free agent pitcher of the year, but left ourselves with a gaping hole in right and a team that was a year older and slower. This is pretty ridiculous, if you think about it. In a real business, you’d look at performance rationally, see that the M’s were basically lucky last year, and treat the “slight bump” as having nothing to do with either Bavasi’s or McLaren’s performance, and bring in someone capable of getting the team younger, faster and cheaper. The M’s fell apart in 2004, the same year the Diamondbacks did, and the Diamondbacks looked at their problems rationally and built a real contender. Last year, they were about as lucky as the M’s but they knew they had gobs of young talent coming up, cashed some of it in for Haren, and put the rest on the field. We traded for Bedard and signed the highest-paid free agent pitcher of the year, but left ourselves with a gaping hole in right and a team that was a year older and slower.

]]> By: gwangung http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270962 gwangung Wed, 14 May 2008 04:56:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270962 <blockquote>As an aside (?)… in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed.</blockquote> Well, duh. Win more, draw more, and in any non-Steinbrennerian universe, that usually saves your job.

As an aside (?)… in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed.

Well, duh. Win more, draw more, and in any non-Steinbrennerian universe, that usually saves your job.

]]> By: PaulMolitorCocktail http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270961 PaulMolitorCocktail Wed, 14 May 2008 04:41:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270961 As an aside (?)... in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed. <a href="http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10823765" rel="nofollow"></a> As an aside (?)… in an article in the Herald, Lincoln credits the slight bump in attendance last year with saving Bavasi and McLaren from the chemical shed.

]]> By: scott19 http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270960 scott19 Wed, 14 May 2008 04:24:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270960 14: Hey, it might work as a shaman chant to produce some runs for us! :) 14: Hey, it might work as a shaman chant to produce some runs for us! :)

]]> By: scott19 http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270959 scott19 Wed, 14 May 2008 04:22:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270959 <blockquote>‘Bill Bavasi is doing an outstanding job’</blockquote> Yeah..."Doin' a heck of a job, <strike>Brownie</strike> Billy!"

‘Bill Bavasi is doing an outstanding job’

Yeah…”Doin’ a heck of a job, Brownie Billy!”

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270957 joser Wed, 14 May 2008 04:21:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270957 <i>Bavasi was at the game watching batting practice. What’s that about? Do most GM’s go on the road with the team?</i> Enjoying a roadtrip for the last time since he anticipates "spending more time with his family" very soon? So... this weekend vs the Padres. The worst teams in each league face off in... what? The Battle to be Least Worst? The AllStar-less Games? The Series of Suck? Bavasi was at the game watching batting practice. What’s that about? Do most GM’s go on the road with the team?

Enjoying a roadtrip for the last time since he anticipates “spending more time with his family” very soon?

So… this weekend vs the Padres. The worst teams in each league face off in… what? The Battle to be Least Worst? The AllStar-less Games? The Series of Suck?

]]> By: tomas http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270956 tomas Wed, 14 May 2008 04:20:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270956 This is good. Really. Last year, when they went tits up, I had a bad feeling (even though as an M's fan I'm sort of used to feeling you get from seeing how many different ways they can lose games) about Mac. He couldn't do jack to stop that slide and he doesn't seem to be able to do jack to stop this one. I don't know that I've ever seen a team so unprepared to play ball. I don't particularly blame the players. Every team has their weak points, a slow outfielder etc etc. I've always said it's a fundamental/philosophical thing with this club, and the closest we got to countering it was the Gillick/Piniella era. So this is good. If they were to pull out of this, I'm sure the FO would spin it somehow and the needed changes would not come. This is good. Really. Last year, when they went tits up, I had a bad feeling (even though as an M’s fan I’m sort of used to feeling you get from seeing how many different ways they can lose games) about Mac. He couldn’t do jack to stop that slide and he doesn’t seem to be able to do jack to stop this one.

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team so unprepared to play ball. I don’t particularly blame the players. Every team has their weak points, a slow outfielder etc etc. I’ve always said it’s a fundamental/philosophical thing with this club, and the closest we got to countering it was the Gillick/Piniella era.

So this is good. If they were to pull out of this, I’m sure the FO would spin it somehow and the needed changes would not come.

]]> By: PaulMolitorCocktail http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270954 PaulMolitorCocktail Wed, 14 May 2008 04:18:34 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270954 <em>Time for drastic measures there McLaren… like um… a new catcher. Oh wait…there’s one sitting at DH. Hmm… maybe we can try him at the dish?</em> Turbo catching? I dunno... Time for drastic measures there McLaren… like um… a new catcher. Oh wait…there’s one sitting at DH. Hmm… maybe we can try him at the dish?

Turbo catching? I dunno…

]]> By: jspektor http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/13/stacked-for-your-convenience/comment-page-1/#comment-270953 jspektor Wed, 14 May 2008 04:18:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5145#comment-270953 18 - My father grew up a cubs fan, then moved to seattle to be an M's fan. So I think he's got the ultimate trump card. Cubs then M's. Whoaaa Nelly. 18 – My father grew up a cubs fan, then moved to seattle to be an M’s fan.

So I think he’s got the ultimate trump card.

Cubs then M’s. Whoaaa Nelly.

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