U.S.S. Mariner

14 May

Game 42, Mariners at Rangers

Carlos Silva v Scott Feldman. 11:05.

Clement’s catching, which should be interesting, Kenji goes to DH, and 1B-0 Cairo is still batting second. I don’t feel like saying a lot more about this game if McClaren cares that little about it.

Okay, okay, so here’s the would-you-swap-’em for today.
C - Ennnhhhh… yes, because I think he’s the better catcher. This should not in any way be taken as denigrating Clement, who I think will hit but may not end up catching.
1B- Yes. You believe Shelton stinks? Doesn’t matter even if he does. Yes.
2B- Yes.
SS - Uhhhhhh…. no. Maybe? I don’t like his deal, and his defense is horrible. Is that enough to spike a deal, though?
3B - No. No. No.
LF - I’m going to have to give this some more thought. My initial reaction was “yes” and then I started to backtrack pretty quickly.
CF- No. I don’t care, I’m not trading Ichiro in one of these, ever.
RF - No.
DH - No, but it’s a weird DH thing going on tonight. Cat v Vidro, absolutely.

And Silva for Feldman? Sure.

335 Responses to “Game 42, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. 1
    jspektor said:

    Good thing I am at work and don’t have to watch them on TV. Stat tracker is far less painful.

  2. 2
    AuburnM said:

    Cairo! Unbelievable.

    Given the information we have available to us, one thing is clear: McLaren should be fired. Today. It is the next logical move, and it sure sounds like that clubhouse needs some new leadership.

    This team may not be as good as the optimists (including me) thought, but no way is it the worst team in the majors.

  3. 3
    Zero Gravitas said:

    I hope Jose Lopez gets a walk or two today, because his BA/OBP inversion is kind of freaking me out right now.

    I also hope to win the Lotto, a gold-plated Mercedes, etc.

  4. 4
    bakomariner said:

    Silva’s gonna get shelled…Cairo will do jack squat…we’ll have another couple errors…and I’ll have to wait till I get home tonight to watch the recording…so the real question is, “Who’s the more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?”

  5. 5
    joser said:

    Here’s the question though: say you fire McLaren — what then? You stick Riggleman or Perlozzo in there for the rest of the season while you look for a replacement? How is that better? If there was a great candidate out there you could jump on, sure, but who would that be? Would they want to join up mid-season? If not, what’s the rush? And McLaren is far from the limit of the problems. Shouldn’t there be a housecleaning from top to bottom? Shouldn’t the (hopefully) new GM have input on the new coach?

  6. 6
    okobojicat said:

    I think the swap M Young for Betancourt isn’t really fair, because Young is a 2B playing out of position. Would you take Young for Lopez/Vidro/Cairo? And I think you answer that is Yes-in a heartbeat, in spit of his contract. Sure, he’s paid too much, but as a slight -defensive 2B, he’s worth it.

    Also, Saltalamacchia is not that good of a defensive C either. He’ll also probably be moved eventually. But I would take his stick over Clement’s. Salty scares pitchers more so than Clement does.

  7. 7
    joser said:

    Jose Lopez’ “inversion” is kind of cool, actually. Maybe he’ll keep it up all season and set the season record for Sacrifice Flies in the process (19 - Gil Hodges, 1954)… at 8 already, he’s well on his way.

  8. 8
    don52656 said:

    I agree. The GM should be sacked first, and the replacement should choose the field manager.

    It would be interesting if someone in the media asked McLaren what the rationale is behind having your worst hitter hitting in the #2 hole.

  9. 9
    joser said:

    I think it’ll be interesting to make that Saltalamacchia - Clement comparison next year, or the year after, or at the end of their respective careers.

  10. 10
    joser said:

    So anybody want to lay odds there’s a rain delay long enough that at least some people will get to watch the end of this game after work?

  11. 11
    don52656 said:

    Lopez has gone 121 at bats since his last BB. During that time, his BA has gone up from .308 to .319, but his OBP has gone down from .341 to .316.

  12. 12
    msb said:

    oooh, a threat of rain– so they could lose this one in just 5 innings!

  13. 13
    don52656 said:

    Brad Wilkerson had 10 BB’s in his rather limited time with the M’s. Lopez and Betancourt have combined for 6 BB’s this season. While Lopez is enjoying a good year so far, batting average-wise, the Lopez/Betancourt combo is a contributing factor to the offensive anemia we’ve seen.

    In fact, Cairo’s OBP is pretty much equal to Betancourt’s, even though he’s only hitting .154.

  14. 14
    IndieSnob said:

    I’d love to say that I’m surprised by the placement of Cairo again in the two hole, but I can’t lie to myself.

    Honestly at this point, I’m more curious as to how short or long of a leash Mac is on at this point. Has there been any indication of this publicly or privately at this point?

  15. 15
    joser said:

    So (courtesy of Rizzs) the Rangers own the best record in baseball since April 15th. Think a schedule that gave them four games against KC and six (now seven) against the M’s might have something to do with that?

  16. 16
    Mike Snow said:

    Looks like Feldman has the drill totally figured out. Throw nothing but strikes, let the Mariners get themselves out. This one will be over quick.

  17. 17
    msb said:

    Honestly at this point, I’m more curious as to how short or long of a leash Mac is on at this point. Has there been any indication of this publicly or privately at this point?

    “A couple of hours before the game, Armstrong offered a vote of confidence in McLaren and his coaches.

    “He’s doing a fine job,” Armstrong said. “I like our staff. I like the manager. … I think Mac is doing a fine job. He’s got a good staff, and they give him good support.”"

  18. 18
    RoninX said:

    Think a schedule that gave them four games against KC and six (now seven) against the M’s might have something to do with that?

    To think, just last monday we were all looking at 6 more games vs. the Rangers in 9 days and eyeing the prospect of getting back in the division race.

  19. 19
    joser said:

    This one will be over quick.

    Depends on how many times the Rangers bat around.

  20. 20
    Xteve X said:

    “Honestly at this point, I’m more curious as to how short or long of a leash Mac is on at this point. Has there been any indication of this publicly or privately at this point?”

    I would be surprised if they fired MacLaren at all this season since whoever they stuck there wouldn’t be a long term replacement and the season’s virtually over for the Ms anyways barring nothing less than a miracle.

    At this point it’s likely that both Mac and Bavasi will get canned at the end of the season so might as well let them tough this year out, fire Bavasi and let his replacement pick his own manager.

  21. 21
    AuburnM said:

    Fire them all.

    Seriously. Fire them all and bring in a whole new group of baseball people from Bavasi down. We need fresh eyes and fresh ideas.

  22. 22
    msb said:

    wow. they didn’t even wait until the 5th to lose.

  23. 23
    Max Power said:

    Niehaus sounds kinda dejected.

  24. 24
    Jeff Nye said:

    …at this point, I’m more curious …at this point. Has …at this point?

    That’s an awful lot of points in one paragraph!

    (I tease you solely because I do this same thing myself sometimes, don’t be mad)

  25. 25
    Sklyansky said:

    Maybe both Bavasi and McClaren have standing job offers elsewhere, and both are trying to get fired (kind of like George and Mr. Wilhelm on Seinfeld). Its the only thing that would make sense.

    Its been said before, but pulling line-ups out of a hat would probably yield better results than having McClaren choose line-ups. This season is becoming very interesting in its own way…I no longer look forward to winning, but wonder what zany and wacky thing McClaren will think of next.

  26. 26
    scott19 said:

    Yep, it didn’t even take Silva 15 minutes to put the game completely out of reach.

  27. 27
    joser said:

    (Rizzs plugging “your local Chiropractor”) — say Rangers fans, if you’re getting whiplash from watching all the balls your guys are hitting off Silva…

  28. 28
    et_blankenship said:

    Here’s the question though: say you fire McLaren — what then? You stick Riggleman or Perlozzo in there for the rest of the season while you look for a replacement? How is that better? If there was a great candidate out there you could jump on, sure, but who would that be? Would they want to join up mid-season? If not, what’s the rush? And McLaren is far from the limit of the problems. Shouldn’t there be a housecleaning from top to bottom? Shouldn’t the (hopefully) new GM have input on the new coach?

    Unlike Managers, GM’s and other front office gurus don’t grow on trees and finding the right fit for your organization takes time and timing (i.e. the off-season). Firing and replacing McLaren would take all of five seconds. Who cares if a new GM will replace McLaren’s interim replacement? The Mariners should at least insert somebody who can fill out a freaking lineup card until that day arrives.

  29. 29
    IndieSnob said:

    That’s an awful lot of points in one paragraph!

    (I tease you solely because I do this same thing myself sometimes, don’t be mad)

    Heh, too funny that you pointed that out. I didn’t even realize that, and I did find the humor in it myself.

  30. 30
    shortbus said:

    Two runs aaaaand the game is officially out of reach.

    Well, ok, the ONE TIME the M’s have overcome a two-run deficit is when it occurred in the first inning. They’ve got eight innings to catch up this time. The problem is, Silva will still be pitching for at least five of those innings.

  31. 31
    joser said:

    bring in a whole new group of baseball people from Bavasi down

    You need to go higher than that. Or you’ll just get the same hiring process that yielded Bavasi.

  32. 32
    Mike Snow said:

    Despite predicting a quick ending, I’m still shocked by just how fast it was.

  33. 33
    RoninX said:

    “A couple of hours before the game, Armstrong offered a vote of confidence in McLaren and his coaches.

    “He’s doing a fine job,” Armstrong said. “I like our staff. I like the manager. … I think Mac is doing a fine job. He’s got a good staff, and they give him good support.””

    Not that this means anything in pro sports these days. Front offices routinely praise managers/coaches right up until (and sometimes past) the point when they fire them.

  34. 34
    joser said:

    They’ve got eight innings to catch up this time.

    Not if the rain moves in. Silva may have a complete game loss in those five innings.

  35. 35
    Xteve X said:

    27 - Awesome.

    So which would be more excruciating … watching this team or the Phantom Menace?

  36. 36
    RoninX said:

    They’ve got eight innings to catch up this time. The problem is, Silva will still be pitching for at least five of those innings.

    The other problem is that the bullpen will be pitching after that. It seems like they’ve been good for allowing at least 2-3 runs in 3+ innings of work every night lately.

  37. 37
    et_blankenship said:

    6-inning, rain-shortened perfect game for Corey . . . oops . . . Scott Feldman. You heard it here first.

  38. 38
    RoninX said:

    So which would be more excruciating … watching this team or the Phantom Menace?

    Hey. The M’s have a chance to make history today: So, does a “complete game” 5 inning no-hitter count… because I’ve got a hunch.

  39. 39
    scott19 said:

    If these guys end up getting no-hit by a rotation bottom-feeder like Feldman, that’s gotta be hitting rock-bottom.

  40. 40
    RoninX said:

    ah! beaten to the punchline!

  41. 41
    msb said:

    Chad Fairchild makes himself even more popular.

  42. 42
    Vortex said:

    Nice catch Ichiro.

  43. 43
    HamNasty said:

    Ichiro never argues…

  44. 44
    DMZ said:

    The next time someone says that Ichiro’s lazy, I’m going to go Clockwork Orange on them and make them watch that play over and over until they repent.

  45. 45
    juneau_fan said:

    Ichiro did as close to a dive that he’s going to do for a ball–give him the damn out!

    I’m actually shocked that something went the M’s way.

  46. 46
    CaptainPoopy said:

    [no]

  47. 47
    scott19 said:

    So, does a “complete game” 5 inning no-hitter count… because I’ve got a hunch.

    I believe so…I think they were talking about that last year in that game which Paul Byrd started against us in Cleveland…

    Which ended up getting suspended short of being “official” due to that raging blizzard.

  48. 48
    CecilFielderRules said:

    For some reason, the fact that Cairo is regularly starting at 1B and hitting 2nd in the line-up has pushed me over the edge. In the grand scheme of things it’s not that big of a deal, and no where near as meaningful as, say, the Silva contract or insisting that Ibanez play LF all the time. But when I keep seeing Cairo at 1st base AND getting the 2nd most plate appearances each game, I want to pick up my monitor and throw it against the wall. There’s just no reason that should be happening.

  49. 49
    joser said:

    Kenji likes this ballpark, doesn’t he?

  50. 50
    shortbus said:

    #38…in the analogy of M’s game to Episode I…who is the M’s answer to Jar Jar Binks? Who is so annoying, foolish and useless that you simply spend the whole show hoping Obi Wan decapitates him with a light saber?

    My vote is for Miguel Cairo who kind of looks funny and adds nothing to the team. If Ron Fairly were still around, however…

  51. 51
    scott19 said:

    Kenji!

    Officially ending the no-hit discussion…

  52. 52
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    Has USSM been lagging for people lately? It’s been chugging the past couple days for me.

    Chuck Armstrong as Senator Palaptine? Willie as Amidala?

  53. 53
    jase411 said:

    1 hit shutout still alive, and VERY VERY possible.

  54. 54
    joser said:

    Isn’t Willie more like the chick that pretends to be the actual princess, but really isn’t?

  55. 55
    CaptainPoopy said:

    Raul as Qui-Gon?

  56. 56
    DMZ said:

    It’s just the one server… it gets hit really hard during game threads. Sorry, we don’t have our own shared server farm with a hundred other sports blogs or anything.

  57. 57
    et_blankenship said:

    The next time someone says that Ichiro’s lazy, I’m going to go Clockwork Orange on them and make them watch that play over and over until they repent.

    Or just give them a real horrorshow tolchock to the glazzies. Moloko anyone?

  58. 58
    jefffrane said:

    The game is moving rapidly, isn’t it? At least it is when the M’s are batting. Feldman must be a genius pitcher.

  59. 59
    jro said:

    Kenji gets a no-out double, and we can’t get the ball out of the infield the rest of the inning. Fundamentals…

  60. 60
    CaptainPoopy said:

    Who’s Vidro? The Frog king dude from Jar Jar’s world!

  61. 61
    HamNasty said:

    Don’t worry DMZ, McLaren keeps throwing out this lineup and no one will be on the game threads anyways.

  62. 62
    Xteve X said:

    “in the analogy of M’s game to Episode I…who is the M’s answer to Jar Jar Binks? Who is so annoying, foolish and useless that you simply spend the whole show hoping Obi Wan decapitates him with a light saber? ”

    Mike Blowers?

  63. 63
    Mike Snow said:

    A scout quoted on Baker’s blog sums up my feeling about the Mariners right now: “You want to see a team waiting to lose every night, that’s them.”

  64. 64
    CaptainPoopy said:

    I’d say McLaren 62. Blowers is better than Valle and Fairly.

  65. 65
    jefffrane said:

    Mike Blowers?

    I dunno, that exchange with Sims the other night about the wind and the old stadium was worth the price of admission. Funniest thing I’ve heard at a Mariners game for some time.

  66. 66
    bakomariner said:

    I’m glad I had the first Star Wars reference of the day in comment 4…

  67. 67
    bakomariner said:

    And predicted that Silva would get shelled…right on so far…

  68. 68
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    Don’t worry DMZ, McLaren keeps throwing out this lineup and no one will be on the game threads anyways.

    I find your lack of faith disturbing.

  69. 69
    jase411 said:

    Cairo hitting a ball that deep should be worth 12 runs. Might be a close game then…

  70. 70
    zvazda said:

    DMZ - don’t apologize when you are already doing so much for all of us.

  71. 71
    David* said:

    It’s fun watching Raul “run”

  72. 72
    joser said:

    “The odds of successfully making a hyperspace jump to the front of the division with a rusted scrapheap of a team–”
    “Never tell me the odds!”

  73. 73
    juneau_fan said:

    Raul moves like a cartoon character. But I won’t mock–it’s a run.

  74. 74
    shortbus said:

    DMZ is like Yoda, providing his wisdom from a tower in the clouds millions of miles away.

  75. 75
    RoninX said:

    Holy cow! Two out rally?!

    You mean Feldman isn’t the second coming of Sandy Koufax?

  76. 76
    Nayners said:

    Guys! I have my M’s hat on today though! I’m not supposed to wear it at work, something has to change…… I am doing what I can. GO M’s! *Laughs at myself at desk*

  77. 77
    scott19 said:

    The 2008 Seattle Mariners: “Another Night, Another Zero!”

  78. 78
    joser said:

    Laird to Gabbard, as Richie is charging the mound: “Let the Wookie win”

  79. 79
    murphy_dog said:

    Too bad Beane hates the Pacific NW, otherwise you spend whatever it takes to lure him out of Oakland, trade for him a la NFL coaches, anything!

  80. 80
    joser said:

    But Dave sounds like Yoda. If Yoda was hopped up on meth and coke and six double espressos.

  81. 81
    confess said:

    Does is go without saying that Sims is Jar Jar Binks?

  82. 82
    CaptainPoopy said:

    joser-

    Best comparison yet. Freakin hilarious!

  83. 83
    scott19 said:

    You mean Feldman isn’t the second coming of Sandy Koufax?

    And see, McLaren probably thinks this guy is “tough to hit” because “he hasn’t started against us before”.

    Hmm…interesting that scouting reports and video tape have not been invented yet.

  84. 84
    msb said:

    maybe the Rangers know the Ms lose when two runs are scored, and they have gotten complacent …

  85. 85
    bakomariner said:

    78- That’s rad…

  86. 86
    CaptainPoopy said:

    Chris Young v. Washburn? Ugh… chalk that up as another loss.

  87. 87
    Xteve X said:

    “Isn’t Willie more like the chick that pretends to be the actual princess, but really isn’t?”

    Willie would be the annoying lil kid version of Anakin.

    Team overall: Bantha poodoo.

  88. 88
    msb said:

    Too bad Beane hates the Pacific NW, otherwise you spend whatever it takes to lure him out of Oakland, trade for him a la NFL coaches, anything!

    Too bad Beane is a part-owner of the A’s …

  89. 89
    joser said:

    Beane has a small ownership share in the A’s, they’re on their way to a new stadium and all the added payroll that entails, and he’s got a nice pool of young talent with no ugly overhanging contracts. Why would he leave for anything less?

  90. 90
    murphy_dog said:

    Thanks joser, I’d forgotten he had a share of the team now, and I live down here with them.

    I just like the way he consistently moves the AAA manager up to the show to be a bench coach for a year or two, and then they get the manager’s job.

  91. 91
    scott19 said:

    As if that upcoming series wasn’t promising to be painful enough, we don’t even get to see Peavy or Maddux go for our Hated Rivals.

    Good thing it’s supposed to be 80-85 and sunny this weekend…they might actually draw 20k for one or two of those games.

  92. 92
    Joe said:

    Hee, can’t you just see Richie standing at 1B waiting for a pitch, occasionally letting out that wookie yowl?

  93. 93
    murphy_dog said:

    As a long time Sacramento resident, and supporter of the Kings; that’s how you judge when a team is truly awful: when more people show up to watch the opposition’s stars than their own team.

  94. 94
    scott19 said:

    Too bad Richie didn’t play in more games back in ‘98…he could’ve been “Wookie Of The Year”! ;)

  95. 95
    et_blankenship said:

    If Mike Blowers were a Star Wars character he would be Steven Wright, but only if Steven Wright were a Star Wars character.

    Bavasi sort of reminds me of that tall, bald dude with the proboscis sticking out of his head who answers the door at Jaba’s palace. “I am sorry, but you cannot enter. Your OBP is much too high. But you . . . what did you say your name was? Cairo? Yes, you may enter at once.”

    Bedard is Han Solo frozen in carbonite.

  96. 96
    tomas said:

    Yeah, the A’s know what they’re doing. No doubt about that. It almost doesn’t even matter who the manager is. Look at how Art Howe did so well there, the moved on to the Mets, sucked, and is probably now knitting.

  97. 97
    msb said:

    Good thing it’s supposed to be 80-85 and sunny this weekend

    well, saturday. on sunday, when I have tickets it is supposed to drop to the 60s.

  98. 98
    juneau_fan said:

    Just reading Baker’s blog, and he said that the coaches adjusted the outfield alignment, pulling them in so there’d be fewer singles sending runners to third, if the balls go over their heads, so be it. And how many doubles have the Rangers had so far? They were pushed in both runs, right?

    Jeez.

  99. 99
    msb said:

    Look at how Art Howe did so well there, the moved on to the Mets, sucked, and is probably now knitting.

    um, Art is sitting across the field next to Ron Washington

  100. 100
    scott19 said:

    96: Isn’t he hosting a cooking show on the Food Network these days? :)

  101. 101
    huckleB said:

    Anyone pay any attention to Brian Myrow, down in P-town? The guy is stuck in AAA with the Padres, who have Adrian Gonzales at first. Since the M’s have put their money on youth, why not go all the way. Talk to the Padres while they’re in town. Myrow could have four or five good years in the majors, and he would be a massive step up from what the M’s have had the last four or five years.

  102. 102
    sealclubber253 said:

    I vote Bill Bavasi as Jar Jar binks. So annoying and pointless.

  103. 103
    scott19 said:

    Speaking of wookies, Niehaus just mentioned that Sexson’s suspension will be over on Friday and that he should be in the lineup.

    Hoo-boy…can’t wait for that excitement!

  104. 104
    Nayners said:

    Why the hell is Cairo bunting?

  105. 105
    scott19 said:

    Why the hell is Cairo bunting?

    Because he and Mac both know he can’t reach base swiging away.

  106. 106
    joser said:

    Ok, I’m sorry, but very little is supposed to be OT in a game thread and, well, this game is dull and the M’s have that Japanese connection, so….I found this (while reading about Sony’s financial results, I swear). It’s pretty amazing that somebody can invent a solar-powered bra and that’s not the most ridiculous thing about it:

    A model (C) displays lingerie maker Triumph International Japan’s “Photovoltaic-Powered Bra” during an unveiling in Tokyo May 14, 2008. The camisole bra, which the company calls it as “earth and human friendly”, features a solar panel which can display messages on the removable small electric board when the cell generates electricity. The bra is also equipped with pads designed to hold beverages so that the usage of cans and plastic bottles can be reduced, the company said.

    (from the picture caption)

  107. 107
    RoninX said:

    Does anyone track 3-1 counts converted into strike outs?

  108. 108
    Sneekes said:

    Not watching it that avidly (watching the UEFA Cup final at the same time) but I thought I saw Balentien bunting at some point - seems to make no sense having your best power threat bunting in a one run game.

  109. 109
    Jeff Nye said:

    joser, that is quite possibly the most off-topic thing I’ve ever seen posted on this site.

    I don’t think I can even bring myself to nuke it, but I can’t guarantee someone else won’t.

  110. 110
    scott19 said:

    106: Gee, maybe Terry and Dale Bozzio can get Missing Persons back together for a revival tour — Dale has something new to wear now!

  111. 111
    Nayners said:

    108- Who is winning? You watching online somehow?

  112. 112
    Sneekes said:

    I’m in the UK. It’s 0-0, but it’s all Zenit at the moment.

  113. 113
    jspektor said:

    109 - Screw Griffey, can I get chris bosio back?

    Are we winning?

  114. 114
    joser said:

    Well, I don’t care if it gets nuked, as long as it amuses the dozen or so people who got to see it while it was there.

    Missing Persons, the Bozios, whoa, there’s an 80s flashback.

  115. 115
    RoninX said:

    It will never cease to amaze me how huge a one run deficit appears when behind and how slim a one run lead looks when ahead.

  116. 116
    Nayners said:

    112- Thanks for the reminder, got it on Gamecast now. I know it’s OT but who are you pulling for in the Champions League Final?

  117. 117
    juneau_fan said:

    On my cable line-up, I get FSC, which is some Fox soccer network, and it’s on there.

    I’m confused about storing beverages in a bra. Are there cupholders, or little sacs?

    And a man on second, no outs! Goooo, M’s!

  118. 118
    Nayners said:

    Man,… Clement better not K!

  119. 119
    joser said:

    Hey look, balls can go over the head of the Rangers’ fielders too.

    Was that really Clement’s first RBI this year??

  120. 120
    Vortex said:

    Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, I’ll take it.

  121. 121
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    I would argue a Japanese solar-powered bra would be a better $24 million investment than… oh, never mind.

  122. 122
    huckleB said:

    Dang it all. Sexson will be back for the weekend?

    Sheesh.

    It looks like Portland fans might think they’re at PGE Park this Sunday. Estes will be pitching, Carlin will likely catch. With Gerut in the outfield, and Edgar Gonzales off the bench, this weekend will seem a lot like a Rainiers-Beavers game from a couple weeks ago.

  123. 123
    scott19 said:

    Speaking of 80’s flashbacks, Clement was really, ah, “motorin’” right there!

  124. 124
    jspektor said:

    CAN I GET A FLY BALL

  125. 125
    RoninX said:

    Arg! Man on third, no outs, tie game and nobody can get it out of the infield?

    Come on Yuni, bloop one in!

  126. 126
    Nayners said:

    Woot - woot, atta boy!

  127. 127
    scott19 said:

    The way the two “major” league parent clubs are playing, a Rainiers-Beavers matchup is liable to outdraw a Mariners-Padres matchup.

    Today’s Apocalypse Update: Mariners have a LEAD!

  128. 128
    RoninX said:

    w00t! We’ll take that too!

  129. 129
    juneau_fan said:

    Balentien and Yuni seemed to have decided to try the ol’ “Let’s change our pants and see if it makes us hit better” trick.

    Worked for one guy for one at-bat.

  130. 130
    EastCoastMsFan said:

    Man, Yuni will never take pitches when he rips the first pitch like that.

  131. 131
    BillyJive said:

    WOO HOO!!! We’re winning!!
    Sorry..I don’t get to say that very often…

  132. 132
    juneau_fan said:

    Dammit, team finally wakes up and I have to leave for an appointment!

    Oh, well. Goooooo, M’s! Keep that lead!

  133. 133
    RITTEM1 said:

    Regarding Clement’s triple…for those watching on tv was it a legit shot or was it ‘outfield aided?’

  134. 134
    scott19 said:

    Uh-oh…wonder what’s up with Silva?

  135. 135
    jzalman said:

    Yeah, TV watchers, what kind of injury?

  136. 136
    themedia said:

    I can’t watch the game so I’m just using MLB.com’s Gameday thing. Is Silva hurt?

  137. 137
    RoninX said:

    Injury? Watching the gamecast I just assumed that it was time to get the bullpen involved in R v. L matchups.

  138. 138
    DMZ said:

    “Silva removed from game: excessive stomach pain caused by delicious smells of clubhouse spread”

  139. 139
    CaptainPoopy said:

    DMZ, I’ve never seen you more wrong about anything, ever! It was the delicious Texas’ clubhouse spread. Not the M’s. He’s busy sneaking in there right now.

  140. 140
    jefffrane said:

    Blowers was going on about some local place with fantastic fried chicken; maybe they stock the Texas clubhouse.

  141. 141
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    So I guess today is Bad Morrow.

  142. 142
    joser said:

    How is this the same Morrow we saw the other night?

  143. 143
    fret_24 said:

    133 - MLB Gameday posted the video. Hamilton got a terrible read on the ball off the bat. It was definitely outfield aided. I don’t think Hamilton realized that the mojo was rising, that causes balls to carry you know.

  144. 144
    Jeff Nye said:

    I thought it might be due to Silva eating Bloomquist.

  145. 145
    joser said:

    Clement’s triple was outfield-aided: Hamilton took a couple of steps in and then started backpedaling but it went over his head.

  146. 146
    RoninX said:

    Morrow is so crafty. Why don’t more pitchers realize that it favors the defense when you can get a force out at any base.

  147. 147
    crazyray7391 said:

    Is it a bad thing that I want to wear a bag over my head when I’m listening to the game at work?

  148. 148
    Mike Snow said:

    In the future, they need to warm up both Lowe and Morrow simultaneously and figure out while they’re still in the bullpen which one of them has his control that day.

  149. 149
    scott19 said:

    Hmm…didn’t know there were Taco Del Mar’s down in DFW…darn those day-old fish tacos!

  150. 150
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    Time for Vasquez to beat the crap out of the M’s. Again.

  151. 151
    jzalman said:

    10 pitch walk. Sweet.

  152. 152
    RoninX said:

    Vazquez, up with yet another chance to kill us.

  153. 153
    justinh said:

    WTF does this happen every time with Green? There was already one on, bring him then instead of Morrow. I do not agree whatsoever with Mac’s use of the pen this year. Brutal!

  154. 154
    jzalman said:

    Phewww…Arthur Rhodes. We’re safe.

  155. 155
    scott19 said:

    I forget…what carton of sunflower seeds did we get for Vasquez again?

  156. 156
    Vlad said:

    Geez guys, how come we want to be anything close to contender, ever, without having a solid back up for any infield position??? TIme to dig some young guns from the farm

  157. 157
    lailaihei said:

    Leaving Rhodes in against a righty? No, 4 straight righties?? Seriously?

  158. 158
    crazyray7391 said:

    Holy crap, they got out of it?

  159. 159
    joser said:

    Wow, and the middle infield didn’t boot it.

  160. 160
    justinh said:

    Hey, great job Mac. Just like you planned it. Phewww.

  161. 161
    LewLegend said:

    that’s gritty veteran toughness right there

  162. 162
    scott19 said:

    Today on Arson Squad: Seattle, the squad actually manages to get through the bottom of the seventh with a lead intact!

  163. 163
    shortbus said:

    Lucky > Good

  164. 164
    EastCoastMsFan said:

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

  165. 165
    Nayners said:

    It’s Amazing! The M’s had something go their way? Arthur even tried to screw it up…..and Vasquez didn’t destroy us!

  166. 166
    RoninX said:

    Another thing I hate about gamecast:

    The “ducks on the pond” graphic changed to just men on second a third. So I start to flip out, thinking that Rhodes gave up a double, then it changes again to “End of the 7th”

    I’m so relieved, but that was cruel….

  167. 167
    LewLegend said:

    I thought #2 hitters were supposed to make contact…

  168. 168
    EastCoastMsFan said:

    Yeah, that was a bad move by the Rangers. Don’t they know by now that Vasquez is an M’s killer?

  169. 169
    scott19 said:

    Oh yeah…it was the legendary Ben Davis.

    How could I ever forget that first-ballot Hall Of Famer?!

  170. 170
    justinh said:

    In the same year we traded for Ben Davis we also forfeited our 1st round pick for Greg Colbrun. That was a good move.

  171. 171
    fret_24 said:

    Gameday is saying Carlos left with an injured back.

  172. 172
    scott19 said:

    Gameday is saying Carlos left with an injured back.

    That may not be good…

  173. 173
    LewLegend said:

    “I knew I shouldn’t have eaten Bloomquist.”

  174. 174
    RITTEM1 said:

    Was it a vertebrae?

  175. 175
    RoninX said:

    “I knew I shouldn’t have eaten Bloomquist.”

    …classic

  176. 176
    Jeff Nye said:

    Maybe he forgot he wasn’t a snake, tried to unhinge his jaw to make Willie easier to get down, and threw out his back?

  177. 177
    RoninX said:

    Grittiness is seems to be rough on the old digestive tract…

  178. 178
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    Jabba the Silva?

  179. 179
    justinh said:

    Another poor defensive play in RF by Wlad.

  180. 180
    RoninX said:

    Bobble or a bad read?

    uh oh. This looks bad.

  181. 181
    Nayners said:

    They must WANT to lose this game. They need more GRITTINESS!

  182. 182
    jro said:

    I’m watching the game on ESPN MLB Gamecast. Any suggestions for something better?

  183. 183
    jspektor said:

    Can we just pretend we won this game after its over. I want to see a blog post on our win.

  184. 184
    jefffrane said:

    I’m watching the game on ESPN MLB Gamecast. Any suggestions for something better?

    Go read a good book. You’ll enjoy it far more.

  185. 185
    jspektor said:

    I’m watching the game on ESPN MLB Gamecast. Any suggestions for something better?

    Go read a good book. You’ll enjoy it far more.

    Go punch yourself in the face with a brick. That is also more enjoyable.

  186. 186
    shortbus said:

    I think WFB is the Wedge Antilles of the M’s. He’s the only rebel pilot that appears in, and survives all three original Star Wars films. Like Willy, he’s a bit player that you just can’t get rid of no matter how many Tie Fighters / Cheaper Replacement-Level Players you throw at him.

  187. 187
    justinh said:

    Very nice play Wlad!!! Diving grab. Just when I thought you couldn’t do any worse, you go out there, and totally redeem yourself!!!!!!!!!!

  188. 188
    zvazda said:

    Raul coulda been there…

  189. 189
    jefffrane said:

    Anyone want to wager on which Ranger gets the walk off home run?

  190. 190
    ndrfx said:

    #186 - Except Wedge is probably the second or third best pilot in the entire Star Wars universe.

  191. 191
    RoninX said:

    Vazquez….

  192. 192
    jspektor said:

    189

    I’m going with Will Clark

  193. 193
    RoninX said:

    #186 - Except Wedge is probably the second or third best pilot in the entire Star Wars universe.

    I didn’t think you could make that claim unless you were a Jedi or a Wookie.

  194. 194
    justinh said:

    I would rather have Putz come in and drill Laird in the dome. I am sick of that piece of @#$%. It would be worth a loss to see that guy go down.

  195. 195
    jro said:

    jspektor Says:

    I’m watching the game on ESPN MLB Gamecast. Any suggestions for something better?

    Go read a good book. You’ll enjoy it far more.

    Go punch yourself in the face with a brick. That is also more enjoyable.

    Two of the better suggestions I’ve had in some time.

  196. 196
    jspektor said:

    195 - mlb.tv if you want to watch other teams play live

  197. 197
    justinh said:

    WFB….good play. That is why he is the MVP.

  198. 198
    RoninX said:

    Wlad! Come on baby, get us that fly ball this time.

  199. 199
    justinh said:

    Wlad 0/3 trying to bring in run from 3rd with 1 out.

  200. 200
    Vlad said:

    on that wlad´s ball, was the infield in?

  201. 201
    jephdood said:

    CLUTCH!

  202. 202
    scott19 said:

    I’m watching the game on ESPN MLB Gamecast. Any suggestions for something better?

    Go put a 80’s thrash punk disc on and smash your head into the wall repeatedly. That would be more fun!

  203. 203
    okobojicat said:

    And that, my friends, is why this team is the worst in the league. And they don’t even have anyone to bring off the bench to hit for Wlad/Betancourt, as you would with a guy on 2nd/3rd and it was the bottom of your lineup.

  204. 204
    WTF_Ms said:

    Well, here we go….another nail biter!

  205. 205
    Sports on a Schtick said:

    All aboard the doom train.

  206. 206
    RoninX said:

    Is the RRS vs. Salty contest historic? Is that the most letters ever combined in a Pitcher vs. Hitter matchup?

  207. 207
    brothermatt said:

    Nothing says Mariners baseball like a walk to lead off the inning.

  208. 208
    justinh said:

    Hey, don’t worry. Lowe is coming in with his WHIP of 2.09.

  209. 209
    Nayners said:

    20 bones says he scores.

    What is it…..75% of lead off runners score or something?

  210. 210
    scott19 said:

    Yep…it’s shapin’ up to be another one of those days where the poor ponies go over the cliff like a herd of bison.

  211. 211
    jephdood said:

    I love the M’s (in general), so it pains me to root for them to keep losing.. but it’s the only way some drastic changes are going to get done.

    C’monnnn FAT PITCH.

  212. 212
    shortbus said:

    #193

    Anakin Skywalker
    Luke Skywalker
    Wedge Antilles?
    Han Solo?
    Jango Fett?
    Boba Fett?
    Lando Calrissian?
    Obi Wan Kinobi?

    How do you figure? At least in the movies Wedge is just a good pilot that gets lucky and doesn’t die.

  213. 213
    WTF_Ms said:

    207

    Nothing says Mariners baseball like a walk to lead off the inning.

    In the bottom of the 9th in a tie game with the SECOND to last team in the division….

  214. 214
    jefffrane said:

    That lead runner doesn’t appear to be scoring.

  215. 215
    Colm said:

    what the ‘eck just happened with one out and Bloomquist on 3rd?

    (I’m restricted to gameday - which is no help here)

  216. 216
    Nayners said:

    211- I’ll drink to that when I get home.

    We need BIG changes.

  217. 217
    apunetid said:

    What was Wedge’s VORP?

  218. 218
    justinh said:

    Great play by Cairo. Nice call to put that on.

  219. 219
    scott19 said:

    Wow…Shelton BUNTING into a double play? That’s a Mariner-esque move if ever I’ve seen one!

    Please, Bill, don’t run out and get this guy!

  220. 220
    RoninX said:

    In the bottom of the 9th in a tie game with the SECOND to last team in the division….

    At this point comparing us to the Rangers at all does the Rangers a disservice. If this were the English Premier league the M’s would have been booted down to the NL West and Diamondbacks would have been called up to the AL.

  221. 221
    arbeck said:

    How do you bunt into a double play? Was that the worst bunt ever?

  222. 222
    RoninX said:

    Extra Innings! No rain delays! Silva wasn’t shelled! The Mariners haven’t been no hit! Our walks aren’t even coming around to score!

    Welcome to bizzaro world.

  223. 223
    jro said:

    Pulling this out today should give the team a shred of hope — hey, we *can* compete when we don’t play like little-leaguers.

    But the upside of a win vs. the downside of a loss? That clubhouse would be a tough one to take.

  224. 224
    justinh said:

    Raul goes deep right here. Calling it. 2-1 pitch.

  225. 225
    michaelfox99 said:

    I don’t post here much anymore but I thought I would make a suggestion:

    You all hate Mclaren and you all hate Bavasi (professionally, not personally). One thing that tends to screw up teams in places like New York (where I now live), is that the fans expect to win all the time. After a small sample of losses the fans get furious and start circulating false rumors and screaming obscenities about management. This is often not particularly firmly grounded in an analysis of those managers’ decisions and the information they had when they made them. It is essentially a “we’re New York, we should always be winning mentality” that gives any coach or manager 2 years or less to win. This is often counter-productive and leads to unnecessary setbacks which always accompany regime changes. Sometimes it is a good idea though, such as the recent firing of Isiah Thomas. I was at a Sonics-Knicks game at the garden (Durant was unbelievable) and the chants of “Fire Isiah!” were nutty. Do the idiots screaming in the stands understand the specific personnel deals Isiah made and why they screwed up the Knicks? No. But the result is what it is.

    I know it is VERY un-Seattle to do something like this. But how about some “Fire Bavasi!”

    He will probably get fired anyways but why not make sure =). This is the Mariners man.

    Makes a lot more sense than booing Richie Sexson, which is misdirected because he is just a baseball player and it isn’t his fault the management wanted to pay him obscene money.

  226. 226
    zvazda said:

    222 - not to mention that the Mariners have won 2 of their last 13 games… and they were the games where Washburn and Batista started.

  227. 227
    WTF_Ms said:

    OK…I know you guys all dislike the accuracy of Joe’s Tracer…how does it compare to the pitch location thing on ESPN GameCast?

  228. 228
    Mike G. said:

    Raul did go deep, to shallow right center field.

  229. 229
    RoninX said:

    Why use Putz now?

  230. 230
    zvazda said:

    Good thing Willie was used as a pinch runner so that we could prevent him from being a defensive replacement.

  231. 231
    BillyJive said:

    I’m just happy they keep hitting it to RF and not left…no particular reason…

  232. 232
    red_devil20 said:

    I’m not sure you can really complain about using Willie as a pinch runner today. That’s one of his roles. They had to try and score a run, then they could have double switched, put Burke behind the plate and Willie in left.

  233. 233
    justinh said:

    Texas Rangers have Nolan Ryan as their team president. We have Chuck Armstrong. Wanna trade?

    Jeeez Wlad…almost take out our 2nd baseman by not calling for it. Rough series for Wlad, except for HR Monday.

  234. 234
    fret_24 said:

    Seriously if this game continues after this inning who is going to pitch? Is Baek available? Ichiro! might get his shot at the mound.

    Lowe - used
    Morrow - used
    Green - used
    Rhodes - used
    RRS - used
    Putz - pitching

  235. 235
    Vlad said: