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	<title>Comments on: Dave and I do an M&#8217;s preview at Ducksnorts</title>
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	<description>Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg</description>
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		<title>By: Mike G.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, I know who I want to play at my wedding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, I know who I want to play at my wedding!</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271782</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do that all the time - email us, we do do requests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do that all the time &#8211; email us, we do do requests.</p>
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		<title>By: SequimRealEstate</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271781</link>
		<dc:creator>SequimRealEstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Mike G&#039;s idea and also that you ran with a couple of topics based on readers statments. Thanks, USSM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Mike G&#8217;s idea and also that you ran with a couple of topics based on readers statments. Thanks, USSM.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271780</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a feeling it was headed for deletion.

I really enjoyed the interview. I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s any interest on the USSM side of doing something similar but it could be interesting. I do like the communication between team based blogs. It was a crossover reminiscent of the fabulous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0653548/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Magnum PI/Murder She wrote crossover&lt;/a&gt;. Encore good sirs, encore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a feeling it was headed for deletion.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed the interview. I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any interest on the USSM side of doing something similar but it could be interesting. I do like the communication between team based blogs. It was a crossover reminiscent of the fabulous <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0653548/" rel="nofollow">Magnum PI/Murder She wrote crossover</a>. Encore good sirs, encore.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271775</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it&#039;s not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it's not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</p>
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		<title>By: red_devil20</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271773</link>
		<dc:creator>red_devil20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it&#039;s not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it's not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G.</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271772</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it&#039;s not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[I thought it was mildly amusing but it's not worth this thread turning into a gripefest about it]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/16/dave-and-i-do-an-ms-preview-at-ducksnorts/comment-page-1/#comment-271771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody, that&#039;s enough. Why is a discussion of random non-Mariner young pitchers, or a rehashing of the 2006 draft, on-topic for this thread? Oh, wait, it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody, that&#8217;s enough. Why is a discussion of random non-Mariner young pitchers, or a rehashing of the 2006 draft, on-topic for this thread? Oh, wait, it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: okobojicat</title>
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		<dc:creator>okobojicat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;metz123&lt;/strong&gt;

I read through that link you supplied, and really, Dave and Derek didn&#039;t say what you are saying. They said that Lincecum has epically good stuff &lt;blockquote&gt;No - Lincecum has crazy, lights out stuff. His fastball is 95-98, and he maintains his velocity late in games. His curveball has some serious drop, and he throws it with power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But that the risks associated with him outweigh that. Their point is that if you have an early pick, and you are going to spend a ton of money, take it on someone who has a lot fewer risks associated with them. 

The Ranking system that &lt;strong&gt;Dave&lt;/strong&gt; Posted:  

&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Miller
2. Lincoln
3. Morrow
4. Scherzer
5. Snider
6. Hochevar
7. Longoria
8. Bard
9. Kershaw
10. Lincecum&lt;/blockquote&gt;

was clearly stating that the best &lt;em&gt;return on the money&lt;/em&gt; was to get a great pitcher while reducing the risk of getting no returns (i.e. Lincecum&#039;s risk of injury). Dave and DMZ are never &lt;blockquote&gt;pretty adamant that both Morrow and Miller would be better MLB pitchers than Lincecum&lt;/blockquote&gt; as you claim.

You are inferring more and not dissecting their qualifications that came along with those rankings.

At this point, we have to realize that the risks of injury to Lincecum are still piling up. The kid has only 200 major league innings pitched. Wood didn&#039;t get hurt until after 300 innings. Prior, even later. Evaluating this draft, this early, is sort of ridiculous.

Speaking of which, when is Kershaw getting his shot...that curveball is Zito-esque......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>metz123</strong></p>
<p>I read through that link you supplied, and really, Dave and Derek didn&#8217;t say what you are saying. They said that Lincecum has epically good stuff<br />
<blockquote>No &#8211; Lincecum has crazy, lights out stuff. His fastball is 95-98, and he maintains his velocity late in games. His curveball has some serious drop, and he throws it with power.</p></blockquote>
<p>But that the risks associated with him outweigh that. Their point is that if you have an early pick, and you are going to spend a ton of money, take it on someone who has a lot fewer risks associated with them. </p>
<p>The Ranking system that <strong>Dave</strong> Posted:  </p>
<blockquote><p>1. Miller<br />
2. Lincoln<br />
3. Morrow<br />
4. Scherzer<br />
5. Snider<br />
6. Hochevar<br />
7. Longoria<br />
8. Bard<br />
9. Kershaw<br />
10. Lincecum</p></blockquote>
<p>was clearly stating that the best <em>return on the money</em> was to get a great pitcher while reducing the risk of getting no returns (i.e. Lincecum&#8217;s risk of injury). Dave and DMZ are never<br />
<blockquote>pretty adamant that both Morrow and Miller would be better MLB pitchers than Lincecum</p></blockquote>
<p> as you claim.</p>
<p>You are inferring more and not dissecting their qualifications that came along with those rankings.</p>
<p>At this point, we have to realize that the risks of injury to Lincecum are still piling up. The kid has only 200 major league innings pitched. Wood didn&#8217;t get hurt until after 300 innings. Prior, even later. Evaluating this draft, this early, is sort of ridiculous.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, when is Kershaw getting his shot&#8230;that curveball is Zito-esque&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jro</title>
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		<dc:creator>jro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>metz123 said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;And you shouldn’t bring up the L name in this blog. The authors were all pretty adamant that both Morrow and Miller would be better MLB pitchers than Lincecum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dave said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey, I have an idea - why don’t you not misrepresent what we said? Thanks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and metz123 said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me know where in the comments of this post you rate Lincecum higher than either Morrow or Miller and I will.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

metz, it sounds like you&#039;re questioning Dave/DMZ&#039;s credibility *NOW* based on a pre-draft prediction from two years ago.  It sounds vindictive.</description>
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<blockquote><p>And you shouldn’t bring up the L name in this blog. The authors were all pretty adamant that both Morrow and Miller would be better MLB pitchers than Lincecum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dave said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey, I have an idea &#8211; why don’t you not misrepresent what we said? Thanks.</p></blockquote>
<p>and metz123 said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me know where in the comments of this post you rate Lincecum higher than either Morrow or Miller and I will.</p></blockquote>
<p>metz, it sounds like you&#8217;re questioning Dave/DMZ&#8217;s credibility *NOW* based on a pre-draft prediction from two years ago.  It sounds vindictive.</p>
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