Comments on: Clement down, Reed up, Mariners still dumb

By: JollyGreen

JollyGreen — Tue, 20 May 2008 23:51:28 +0000

Maybe I misread the initial post, but why will the Mariner’s have to cut somebody in order to keep Vidro and Cairo?

Also, what is Reed’s status with the team, he turns 27 in a few weeks, at what point will he be unable to be sent back to Tacoma (no more options) and somebody else can claim/sign him?

By: CaptainPoopy

CaptainPoopy — Tue, 20 May 2008 02:34:05 +0000

79 Jeff Nye-

Sorry about rehashing old arguments, that wasn’t my intention. I was merely trying to somehow understand the move. Figured that would be a logical explanation.

By: Steve T

Steve T — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:51:03 +0000

I honestly think Bavasi is coasting on macho bravado. He’s a guy’s guy through and through, and can slap backs with the best of them, and he’s loud and brash and intimidating. I think he’s sitting there right now, completely flummoxed that his answers aren’t working, but he will never in a million years admit that his basic approach is wrong. But it is: playing Vidro at this point is inexcusable.

By: jephdood

jephdood — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:59:45 +0000

When a thread discussing the general ineptitude of the FO gains more attention (posts) than an actual game thread.. some changes need to be made.

By: jzalman

jzalman — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:47:25 +0000

And agreed jspektor, the title of the post is great.

By: jzalman

jzalman — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:46:04 +0000

SF-Barry Bonds+Aaron Rowand=most improved. Screw SABRMetrics, that’s SABEANMetrics.

Seriously though, if you’ve only “got a chance to stay in and around third place” isn’t that the answer to the question why not?

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:45:31 +0000

Attendance is clearly down this year, and doesn’t look to improve (the usual bump from summer weather and school vacation, of course, but not as much as other years). The last time attendance took a significant hit we got the Sexson and Beltre contracts. This offseason should prove… interesting. (In the spirit of fan friendly gimmicks, can I hereby proactively dub Griffey “Mr Human Rally Fries”?)

By: jspektor

jspektor — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:42:49 +0000

I still cant get over the headline of this thread

“Clement down, Reed up, Mariners still dumb”

Well done. Nicely Played.

By: joser

joser — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:39:55 +0000

I don’t think the M’s organization is capable of sneakiness, but they’re certainly capable of self-delusion.

However, the reigning king of delusion lives somewhere to the south of us.

Like most baseball folk, general manager Brian Sabean likes to assess his team once it completes one quarter of its schedule. The Giants did so with a 6-3 loss to Houston on Wednesday night, and strange as it might sound, Sabean sees a San Francisco team that can contend.

Not in two seasons, not next season, but in 2008.

“As long as we’ve got a chance to stay in and around third place, why not?”
…
“I think we’ve come a long way,” Sabean said. “When you consider some of our challenges in spring training and some of the question marks, we’ve got to be considered one of the most improved teams in baseball. ”

Keep in mind that not only do the Giants (17-28) have a worse record than the M’s (18-27), they’re much further behind their division leader (12.5 games vs 7.5) and they’re further behind in the wild card (8.5 vs 7.5). Yes, the Giants, “one of the most improved teams in baseball.”

By: bakomariner

bakomariner — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:25:33 +0000

The short term of the move doesn’t really matter…they sucked before the move and will after…the long term will be brutal if they are trading away Clement, his develpment suffers from being back in AAA, or if Vidro’s option kicks in…