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Game 49, Mariners at Yankees
DMZ · May 23, 2008 at 4:31 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Hey, good thing that we’re through with the powerhouse Tigers and can move onto—doh
Since Bavasi took over we are 25th lowest in overall wins as franchise. If I wrote this in a confusing fashion I mean that only 5 teams have lost more games than us during Bavasi’s tenure.
Since Bavasi has taken over, each win has cost the Mariners 2.5 million dollars to get.
According to Armstrong: Bavasi is doing an outstanding job.
Like Dave said on KJR … with a 118 million dollar payroll that is pathetic.
159 – I agree with you, however … it seems odd Felix has an injury. I personally think our team has given up on the season but this is just speculation … or based off of our record. Mysterious injury though …
160… basically his point is that golf would have made the injury worse, and Felix was (pick stupid, reckless, whatever) to play golf when he was just pulled for being hurt.
msb on
May 23rd, 2008 7:30 pm
it seems odd Felix has an injury.
why? he injured it during the last game, he limped around after he did it, it has been referenced all week. Do you think he faked it last start just to miss the game a week later?
SexsonMendoza on
May 23rd, 2008 7:30 pm
Funerals are always tough events to attend. I think what we saw tonight was the start of the procession to the grave site for the casket that is carrying the very dead season of the 2008 Mariners. It will be six feet under by Sunday. Right now I’m hoping they’ll blow this team up by the end of July, because the only thing to look forward to right now is a Mariners team with new players. The Rainers could do better than this bunch of overpaid bums.
162 – I am not accusing him of anything … I am not going to do that / walk down that road … however, for some reason I wasn’t surprised that he missed this start.
Mariners starter Felix Hernandez is recovering quickly enough from his calf injury to take up some golf with teammates. Hernandez played golf during the team’s off-day here on Monday, apparently losing about two-dozen balls in the rough and surrounding woods.
Pitching-wise, the Mariners say he’s progressing steadily and — with the added day of rest — should be able to make his next start.
Tom on
May 23rd, 2008 7:41 pm
Worst season in Mariners history.
What else is there to say?
Before calling for Bavasi and McLaren’s heads, it’s probably a better idea to call for Chuck Armstrong’s head first. After all, he’s president of BASEBALL OPERATIONS and approved each and every one of Bill Bavasi’s moves since he became our GM.
juustabitoutside on
May 23rd, 2008 7:44 pm
In happier baseball related news, Doug Davis went seven innings against the Braves and gave up 1 run on 5 hits, struck out 4 and walked 2.
It’s been 6 weeks since he had surgery to remove a cancerous thyroid gland.
My opinion of the Felix injury is that they know the attendance at home is down. So why not save Felix for a home game because people will come to see him regardless of how bad the team is. What do you think? Plausable?
Tom on
May 23rd, 2008 7:49 pm
Continuation of 168:
What the Mariners must do is fire Armstrong, then hire a man in his position that is much more of a baseball man than Chuckie is and then it should be up to him as to who stays and who goes in the front office without doing anybody favors. What this new president (i.e. Terry Ryan, Larry Beinfest, etc.) needs to do with every member of the front office and John McLaren is have some serious, no-nonsense baseball discussions as to why this situation has come up and what role every member of the front office had in making this situation happened. This btw, is basically what new New York Knicks president did when he was hired a few weeks ago to handle the Isiah Thomas situation.
In other words, every member of the front office is fair game to be fired.
Then we go and hire/fire people from there; and this move needs to be immediately so the Mariners can get a 5 month head start on this.
So sorry Chuck, time to go.
And if Howard Lincoln doesn’t have enough guts to do this, then he needs to be voted off as CEO by the Mariners board of trustees (or whatever the hell they are called) immediately.
Tom on
May 23rd, 2008 7:50 pm
happen*
Sorry, bad grammar.
msb on
May 23rd, 2008 8:00 pm
so, the day after he had ‘tightness in his calf’ they thought it was ok for him to walk the course on his off-day, and that he was “progressing steadily.” On wednesday Felix said he was going to make his regular start, and Mel said ‘we’ll see’. He played catch on flat ground in Detroit on Thursday, still had some soreness on Friday, & so they made the decision to push him back.
Aside from happy USSM readers, I don’t think Felix affects the home box office the way RJ once did.
174… I’m actually more concerned about Felix thinking it was a good idea. He’s young, but he should know this stuff by now.
msb on
May 23rd, 2008 8:12 pm
I don’t golf — how much actual walking and moving about does a duffer do? Is it mostly carts?
Tom on
May 23rd, 2008 8:16 pm
#174: That’s because the Mariners haven’t come close to the playoffs since Felix has been here. Once the team starts winning and getting in the playoffs, and hopefully it will be soon, then Felix will become a household name around here.
msb on
May 23rd, 2008 8:17 pm
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
juustabitoutside on
May 23rd, 2008 8:26 pm
Thanks for the link to the DiMuro article, msb. That was interesting.
I’d gladly subscribe to a feed of the live game audio from the field if we could hear the conversations between the participants. What fun that would be!
176… bunch of google hits indicate that the calves are used in the swing; similar to their importance in pitching.
juustabitoutside on
May 23rd, 2008 8:48 pm
I’ve played golf for 30 years and it’s very conceivable you could aggravate a leg injury during a golf swing. As with most athletic movements, the legs are the base, and an active one, for any decent golf swing.
Then again, I’ve heard of people hurting their back by sneezing, so who knows.
It’s not particularly savvy to play golf if you have a leg injury and you’re a professional ballplayer thta needs his legs to perform, but unless the club told him specifically not to play…well, he’s 22 and as I recall from being that age…invincible.
When I carry my clubs and golf its like an intense work out … the question is why the hell would an MLB player carry his clubs. If he didn’t … which is what I am assuming … I bet it didn’t effect him too much.
scott19 on
May 23rd, 2008 8:50 pm
I’m a little late to the party for this one, but for about the last hour or so on KJR, Furness has been doing a chronological ranting move-by-move history of Bavasi’s reign of error — complete with soundbites.
edgar for mayor on
May 23rd, 2008 8:56 pm
128
Baek would have been a suitable replacement for Washburn or Bastista lol.
Feirabend is more than a suitable replacement.
Mike Snow on
May 23rd, 2008 9:05 pm
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
Haven’t seen anything about that, but he did have some interesting comments in the AP story for the game:
“Playing on this team and seeing what’s happening around me, I feel that something is beginning to fall apart,” Suzuki said through a translator. “But, if I was not in the situation and I was objectively watching what had happened to this team in the past week, I would probably be drinking a lot of beers and brewing it.”
What kind of beer?
“Usually I enjoy Japanese beer, but given the situation, if I was objectively watching the game, I wouldn’t care if it was Japanese beer, American beer or beer from Papua New Guinea,” he said.
Sounds like he’s been reading the game thread here.
Mike Snow on
May 23rd, 2008 9:10 pm
Or, Baker’s blog has what may be the more accurate quote. Not “brewing it,” just “booing.”
jguier on
May 23rd, 2008 9:19 pm
Keep it up…empty seats at the yard will force the inevitable. The last thing we need is for this team to win.
Tom on
May 24th, 2008 1:44 am
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
Graham on
May 24th, 2008 1:58 am
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
We’re going to go .500 in a 232 game season?
Tom on
May 24th, 2008 2:07 am
hahaha, I think that didn’t quite come out right. You get the concept though. . .
scott19 on
May 24th, 2008 2:16 am
Geez, even the old PCL back in the ’40’s only played like 210 games a year!
msb on
May 24th, 2008 7:19 am
I’m a little late to the party for this one, but for about the last hour or so on KJR, Furness has been doing a chronological ranting move-by-move history of Bavasi’s reign of error — complete with soundbites.
Puckett.
scott19 on
May 24th, 2008 11:16 am
192: Thanks, MSB…my bad there. Although at times, those two sound almost interchangeable.
For those who haven’t seen it, stathead Hugh Millen put together an Excel spreadsheet showing $/win over the Bavasi regime:
link
…. and Puckett is about to do a hatchet job on Bavasi. Fun!
Guess we are going for 116 losses this year rather than 116 wins.
you know, I am not at all sorry that I got called away mid-game.
Oh, man…
Puckett is going off on Felix for his calf injury, accusing him of exacerbating it when he played golf after his last game.
This is gonna be fun. 950, my friends.
Sorry for the political talk, but I just heard that Mike Gravel has picked the Mariners to win it all this year, right after he does.
According to Softy today:
Since Bavasi took over we are 25th lowest in overall wins as franchise. If I wrote this in a confusing fashion I mean that only 5 teams have lost more games than us during Bavasi’s tenure.
Since Bavasi has taken over, each win has cost the Mariners 2.5 million dollars to get.
According to Armstrong: Bavasi is doing an outstanding job.
Like Dave said on KJR … with a 118 million dollar payroll that is pathetic.
PMC – you beat me to the punch. but I outlined that spreadsheet in post 156. but if you haven’t seen that spreadsheet look at it.
maybe they are playing the drinking game
don’t much care what Piuckett thinks, actually.
159 – I agree with you, however … it seems odd Felix has an injury. I personally think our team has given up on the season but this is just speculation … or based off of our record. Mysterious injury though …
160… basically his point is that golf would have made the injury worse, and Felix was (pick stupid, reckless, whatever) to play golf when he was just pulled for being hurt.
why? he injured it during the last game, he limped around after he did it, it has been referenced all week. Do you think he faked it last start just to miss the game a week later?
Funerals are always tough events to attend. I think what we saw tonight was the start of the procession to the grave site for the casket that is carrying the very dead season of the 2008 Mariners. It will be six feet under by Sunday. Right now I’m hoping they’ll blow this team up by the end of July, because the only thing to look forward to right now is a Mariners team with new players. The Rainers could do better than this bunch of overpaid bums.
162 – I am not accusing him of anything … I am not going to do that / walk down that road … however, for some reason I wasn’t surprised that he missed this start.
We don’t even look like we are trying any more 🙁
But if he is injured … or remotely close to injured it is a smart idea to bench him. He is worth more than this season that is lost already.
Is “remotely close to injured” a medical condition? I looked on WebMD but couldn’t find it.
Ah, here is what he was talking about:
Geoff Baker’s Notebook – May 21, 2008
Worst season in Mariners history.
What else is there to say?
Before calling for Bavasi and McLaren’s heads, it’s probably a better idea to call for Chuck Armstrong’s head first. After all, he’s president of BASEBALL OPERATIONS and approved each and every one of Bill Bavasi’s moves since he became our GM.
In happier baseball related news, Doug Davis went seven innings against the Braves and gave up 1 run on 5 hits, struck out 4 and walked 2.
It’s been 6 weeks since he had surgery to remove a cancerous thyroid gland.
Wow.
We need a Lester versus Davis game.
My opinion of the Felix injury is that they know the attendance at home is down. So why not save Felix for a home game because people will come to see him regardless of how bad the team is. What do you think? Plausable?
Continuation of 168:
What the Mariners must do is fire Armstrong, then hire a man in his position that is much more of a baseball man than Chuckie is and then it should be up to him as to who stays and who goes in the front office without doing anybody favors. What this new president (i.e. Terry Ryan, Larry Beinfest, etc.) needs to do with every member of the front office and John McLaren is have some serious, no-nonsense baseball discussions as to why this situation has come up and what role every member of the front office had in making this situation happened. This btw, is basically what new New York Knicks president did when he was hired a few weeks ago to handle the Isiah Thomas situation.
In other words, every member of the front office is fair game to be fired.
Then we go and hire/fire people from there; and this move needs to be immediately so the Mariners can get a 5 month head start on this.
So sorry Chuck, time to go.
And if Howard Lincoln doesn’t have enough guts to do this, then he needs to be voted off as CEO by the Mariners board of trustees (or whatever the hell they are called) immediately.
happen*
Sorry, bad grammar.
so, the day after he had ‘tightness in his calf’ they thought it was ok for him to walk the course on his off-day, and that he was “progressing steadily.” On wednesday Felix said he was going to make his regular start, and Mel said ‘we’ll see’. He played catch on flat ground in Detroit on Thursday, still had some soreness on Friday, & so they made the decision to push him back.
Aside from happy USSM readers, I don’t think Felix affects the home box office the way RJ once did.
174… I’m actually more concerned about Felix thinking it was a good idea. He’s young, but he should know this stuff by now.
I don’t golf — how much actual walking and moving about does a duffer do? Is it mostly carts?
#174: That’s because the Mariners haven’t come close to the playoffs since Felix has been here. Once the team starts winning and getting in the playoffs, and hopefully it will be soon, then Felix will become a household name around here.
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
Thanks for the link to the DiMuro article, msb. That was interesting.
I’d gladly subscribe to a feed of the live game audio from the field if we could hear the conversations between the participants. What fun that would be!
176… bunch of google hits indicate that the calves are used in the swing; similar to their importance in pitching.
I’ve played golf for 30 years and it’s very conceivable you could aggravate a leg injury during a golf swing. As with most athletic movements, the legs are the base, and an active one, for any decent golf swing.
Then again, I’ve heard of people hurting their back by sneezing, so who knows.
It’s not particularly savvy to play golf if you have a leg injury and you’re a professional ballplayer thta needs his legs to perform, but unless the club told him specifically not to play…well, he’s 22 and as I recall from being that age…invincible.
MSB –
When I carry my clubs and golf its like an intense work out … the question is why the hell would an MLB player carry his clubs. If he didn’t … which is what I am assuming … I bet it didn’t effect him too much.
I’m a little late to the party for this one, but for about the last hour or so on KJR, Furness has been doing a chronological ranting move-by-move history of Bavasi’s reign of error — complete with soundbites.
128
Baek would have been a suitable replacement for Washburn or Bastista lol.
Feirabend is more than a suitable replacement.
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
Haven’t seen anything about that, but he did have some interesting comments in the AP story for the game:
Sounds like he’s been reading the game thread here.
Or, Baker’s blog has what may be the more accurate quote. Not “brewing it,” just “booing.”
Keep it up…empty seats at the yard will force the inevitable. The last thing we need is for this team to win.
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
We’re going to go .500 in a 232 game season?
hahaha, I think that didn’t quite come out right. You get the concept though. . .
Geez, even the old PCL back in the ’40’s only played like 210 games a year!
Puckett.
192: Thanks, MSB…my bad there. Although at times, those two sound almost interchangeable.