Game 49, Mariners at Yankees
DMZ · May 23, 2008 at 4:31 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Hey, good thing that we’re through with the powerhouse Tigers and can move onto—doh
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Glad to have Jamie Burke up there with two men on and one out. I mean, he’s guaranteed to get a hit, right?
I hope someone pointed out to the batters that “Andy Pettitte will aim to halt a personal five-start winless drought for New York tonight. Pettitte has dropped his last two starts and each of his last four decisions after taking a loss against the Mets on Saturday. Pettitte, who is 3-5 with a 4.42 ERA on the season, has yet to face Seattle this season and is 8-10 with a 4.81 ERA in 18 career starts against the Mariners.”
Wait, what was that Beltre just did?
Dang, think Yuni will learn anything from that at bat? That was a very good AB.
I have to say I was happy Jamie struck out, it’s sort of a bizarro sacrifice, striking out instead of grounding out into a double play.
Yuni should bat 3rd
heck, everybody else has …
well, we’re only on pace to strike out 22-23 times this game….
No. Actually, Good baseball players do not “step it up” and play better in Yankees Stadium.
*Gets dragged away for talking to the TV*
Can Ichiro swear to the umpire in Japanese?
Yuni worked the count and drove in a run with 2 outs? Get out of here.
Dave Niehaus rags on Yuni, and he has a great at bat. Someone tell Dave to do that some more.
That was a totally bad call. Ichiro was right. The ump seems to have it in for him. Either that or he thinks Petite is a hall of fame pitcher.
so what’s the record for number of times a manager has been tossed by the end of May?
Mclaren looks so funny when he gets angry.
Was McLaren arguing that third strike when he got tossed?
I’ve always wondered what the umpire and manager actually say when they’re jawing. I like to think that McLaren was just inviting him out to dinner that night.
Is there anyway that the UMP can eject McLaren for the season?????
Even Giambi expected that strike to be called with this ump’s strike zone.
Ah, two men on and nobody out. That’s getting to be a familiar sight.
sheesh. even Giambi thought that one was a strike.
Ugh.
16 – I’m not a lip reader, but Mac was using some strange words to invite someone to dinner. One particular word seemed to come up a lot. Followed by “…you!”
Now that’s more like it. These are the Mariners I’m familiar with.
Johjima sucks! Get Bedard a new catcher!
it looked like he was done, and starting to walk away, and then DeMura said something that caused him to turn back around and say the fatal words that got him tossed.
I think managers who fear for their jobs, especially when all else fails to reverse a death spiral, tend to get tossed more.
Ooooh, even more familiar. Two men on and nobody out and a poor hitter gets a home run.
Well that lead was short lived.
“See, now McLaren is bringing some spark into the clubhouse! That’s what we need! Some spark!” – basically every KJR host
Dammit, Jamie.
I think Mac was saying to the Ump, “Pluck, you!”…inviting him to a chicken dinner but making him do some of the pre-meal prep.
he also yelled at the ump, “what the f— is the matter with you?”
The Yankees are in for it now! Ejecting McLaren will just ignite this slumbering Murderers Row of an offense. Look out scorekeeper!
Golly, watching the Ms play at times can be like suffering through dysentery…
Do you really need to see the rest of the game to know how it turns out? By getting tossed early Mac can go sight see for two and a half hours or so and still be back in time to spit out his usual post game platitudes.
Dysentery gets cured, though.
Well, it gets them on BBTN and Sportscenter, where prospective future employers will hear their name.
Let’s put odds on what Mac has to say after the game:
“Our bats struggled tonight”
“Our defense in the outfield was solid”
I’d knock on wood, but I figure I can’t give this team anymore bad luck. That being said… Are the Mariners actually hitting more than once every 3-4 innings right now?
GameDay is apparently broken. According to their coverage, Vidro has two hits. Who are they kidding?
And if they get tossed often enough, with real flair, they get bottled water endorsements.
It’s all about the professional hits.
Wow…can you say Big Market conspiracy? Just kidding, calm down. To see ICHIRO and Stottlemeyer arguing with the ump, two guys that seldom lose their cool like that…the cynic(?)that I am, I can already see it on PTI or elsewhere “this was staged, M’s are horrible and just want some attention” “Why does it matter anyway, likely no playoffs for them this year”
by people who have not seen the actual pitch, or were influenced by the camera angle…*sigh*
At least MAC gets to hit the post game buffet early … according to reports out of USSM that is where Turbo is during the game.
I’m officially frightened. I don’t even know what to say. All my blog prep work were negative comments. I have nothing in my repertoire for hits being strung together.
42, every DH needs a routine to follow.
of course, that wouldn’t explain Bobby Cox..
I despise Derek Jeter. And I hate anyone saying anything resembling flattery… especially allusions that he is a “special type of ballplayer.”
He’s not special. He’s average.
Sorry about that guys.
Maybe Mac wanted to catch the new Indiana Jones flick … that would make more sense than his lineup cards on a nightly basis.
Since no one has mentioned this yet…
Why is Ibanez in the lineup against a lefty? Not only in the lineup, but hitting fourth?
(Rhetorical question, no need to answer)
49… whether a typical Ms game this year or the new Indiana Jones movie is more enjoyable is an interesting question.
… or a Vern Fonk commercial. At least the Fonk commercial is over quickly.
entertaining old piece re: Dimuro
The reasoning behind these managers getting tossed is so tired. You see a team stinking, and you know for damn sure the manager is going to go out there, throw a fit, and get tossed while he’s thinking ‘man this is SO gonna fire up my team!’
While we’re comparing the M’s to movies….watching our defense is funnier than any Adam Sandler flick.
First beer drained. Well into the second.
This is a fast game. How am I supposed to get hammered by the ninth at this rate?
It’s early (third inning) but the powerhouse Tigers are getting shut down by Minnesota’s Slowey. Hitters must be licking their lips looking at any series featuring the back of the M’s rotation.
zvazda: He’s below average, and has been for a number of years. Far below average defensively (ranked in the bottom 5 year after year), no power, and yet he gets tons of accolades.
Indiana Jones and the Defense of Doom?
Indiana Jones and the Forbidden Walk?
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Grit?
Indiana Jones and the Rotation of Suck?
sigh. you know things are going bad for you when the Yankee runs come off Shelley Duncan hitting a ball in the dirt out for a home run, more get on base when a pitch that was so good it fooled Giambi, but the ball bloops in any way …
Axtell – stop filling my heart with such warmth when the only thing i can do is look up from my computer and see the TV.
Temple of Grit is just begging for an LL photoshop starring Bloomquist.
just wondering….
was Ichiro yelling at the umpire in English or Japanese?
Either way, I understood what he was saying!
And I don’t speak Japanese.
Even Jason Giambi knows he can run on Raul. I imagine that in every pre-game meeting against the Mariners they expressly tell slow-footed catchers and first basemen, “this is the game you’re going to take the extra base on the leftfielder. Don’t even hesitate.”
Pretty upsetting that our boys just mailed in the season. Felix ‘hurts’ … no one is trying.
Boy is this ugly.
This personal catcher thing is working out real good for the M’s. They should bring up Rob Johnson, Clement, and reacquire Rene Rivera from the Dodgers, so all four starters can have their own catcher–and maybe even bring in a 6th one to be a personal receiver for the bullpen.
No one else has commented on this yet…but…
NEITHER team is playing with their manager in the dugout.
Think it’ll make a difference?
I didn’t either.
65… shhh, don’t tell Joel Skinner.
I’m watching my beloved Mariners implode at the same time I’m watching my not-so-beloved HRC implode.
Can you imagine if someone asked Bavasi why he wasn’t giving up on the season and rebuilding and he replied, “It’s only May, anything can happen… hell, Corey Lidle died in a plane crash in October.”
Stunning. I’m stunned.
Maybe Armstrong will make her our next GM. Mark Penn as bench coach.
Screw this, I’d rather watch Indiana Jones and Pointless Crusade Under the Temporary Charge of the Interim Manager.
Karen – good point. Baker seemed to think Girardi’s suspension, along with having Bedard on the mound, made this our one chance to take a game in the series. Not looking too likely.
70: As a campaign manager, you’ve got me dying.
make that 71
Why would Girardi’s suspension have made a difference? Isn’t it dogma among the media that managers can never be responsible for anything?
And here come the Yankees!
Jeter sacrificing for the team. What a noble man.
Really? No IBB there?
The M’s even messed up the Jeter rundown. Even “Homer” Rizz said on the radio that “personal catcher” Burke failed to run Jeter back, and now two more runners are in scoring position…..and they both score on a bloop single!
Too bad we don’t have a long reliever in the pen to pitch the next few innings.
Another day, another starter that gets chased early.
THANK YOU PERSONAL CATCHER @%@%****@#%@%#$$%$@!!!11
ManageWA… I bet. That’s the kind of statement that could make a campaign manager try to swallow his own tongue. It’s insane… literally.
I am really having some schadenfreude toward Bedard/Washburn and their catcher petulance.
USSM should keep a stat ticker on the two of them with their new catcher.
I count a collective 16 earned runs in 6.2 innings so far.
Eh, I thought Burke blew it by not blocking the plate at first, but on the replay, I don’t think he could have done it.
John: As an Obama supporter since ‘04, I’m glad to see signs of this finally winding down. As a Democrat, it’s hard for me to watch such a strong politician go down the way she has. This isn’t her legacy.
WTF is going on with these clowns, new motto? “Lose Big, Go Home?”
Hope no one is playing a drinking game based on runs surrendered.
And the parade of last-place teams turning their season around on us continues. Sweet!
if they were they didn’t survive the Detroit series anyway….
I’ve seen fatal auto wrecks, cars hit the wall right in front of me at Indy and a couple of live plane crashes but by golly this team’s recent performance has moved into first place in my personal pantheon of disasters.
But they are the only happy ones.
Our TV color commentator’s are infuriating with their “optimism”/idiocy.
#66 – I am actually glad they shut down Felix if he is hurting even slightly. They (BB and Johnny Mac) could have kept trotting him out there an asked him to “pitch through the pain” in a futile attempt to save their jobs by getting a few more wins.
Couldn’t sleep at 3 AM and that stupid Mojo Risin’ motto got stuck in my head. Not only is it not true, it doesn’t really reflect any local Washingtonianism. So I have some rewrites (you can see why I don’t write slogans for a living):
Mojo AWOL
Mojo and $3.95 will get you a cup of coffee
Mariners’ Mojo: as productive as winter wheat in June
Mariners’ Mojo: chopped to bits like fish through a turbine
Mariners’ Mojo: entombed in a case of Mt. St. Helens ash
I wasn’t going to play any drinking games, but I think I’m about to leave the office and start one. It’s called “Drink to forget”. I hear it’s a popular variation.
Groz is ripping on the Ms now. “It’s bad! It’s really, really bad!”
How fast can we get a mercy rule instituted in MLB?
18 earned runs in 6.2 innings.
Thank GOD that they rid themselves of Johjima. How could they hope to achieve a 26 ERA with him behind the plate?
85 – It is stunning. I’m watching Olbermann’s special comment right now.
Forget the beer, switched to the hard stuff. Make it a triple.
Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. I can’t watch.
I go take a piss and the Yankees score two runs. This is obscene.
We need a “roster fire” ala the Saturday Night Live “cast fire.”
John in LA, thanks for the KO reference. I’d rather watch him and the mess than this mess. Even if it’s only for a few minutes.
The Democrtic nomination hinges on the key Puerto Rico primary, you know.
Why bother with a pitching change now? Make Bloomquist pitch.
That last hit transported me into the realm of absurdity and humor. I actually laughed out loud when the ball was hit… and that pains me mostly because it’s the GDYs.
You know it’s really bad when you’re just hoping the M’s don’t give up 20 runs.
101 – We need Mabry!
Time to wave the white flag.
@100 — no it doesn’t. It’s been over for some time.
Hell… I’m not watching a baseball game anymore, I feel like I’m rubbernecking at a 14 car pileup on I-5
Practically a 1-2-3 inning, it was.
KO is truly a fired-up democrat. I love how outspoken and well-spoken he is. I only caught the end of the special comment, but he’s spot on, as always.
Now if only he’d stop using Edward R Murrow’s Good Night, and Good luck. That’s always annoyed me.
IN other news, the Arizona softball team has some attractive gals on their roster. Sorry Jarrod, a few years too old. The game on ESPN2 is better than the M’s-Yanks, that is for sure.
Steve (106) – I was making fun of the HRC campaign spin doctors who’ve recently claimed that little states like W VA have great significance.
Look out for the pitcher at RF. GO Wildcats.
Please no political talk?
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G-man,
Harry Doyle would have called it that way.
109-He is a fantastic newscaster, and you can tell he truly cares about the news and issues he’s reporting on, unlike every other one out there.
I love countdown, and he keeps it peppered with enough light bits (Oddball is always good) to balance out the more serious stuff he covers.
Here is the composite line score for this road trip so far:
Seattle 1 1 3 0 3 1 2 1 4 16
Det/NY 1 10 8 7 11 5 1 0 x 43
Wow….
“Pettite has a cusion.” Talk about an understatement. On the plus side they’ve manage to drag Dan Wilson to New York to remind us of the good years.
At least with the Tigers, it was a team I liked when I lived in Michigan. This is the evil empire Yankees. I can’t watch three of these. Though I do like the idea of Washburn getting his, uh, hat handed to him if we’re going to lose anyway.
There it is folks! The M’s are so bad, we are now relating our political preferences on USSM! And not even considered off topic.
In 29 innings so far this trip, the M’s have given up 8 runs once, 7 runs once, 5 runs once, 3 runs three times, 2 runs 5 times, 1 run 4 times, and zero runs 14 times. Of those 14 zeros, 6 of them have occurred in the first 4 innings. In 4 games….
This team is just bad.
I’ll make a mordant prediction: somehow, someway either Washburn or Silva will eke out a win this weekend, reducing the entire situation to farce.
Mediocre talent
Poorly constructed team
Lousy manager
Horrible pitching (by the way Mel, you’re doing a helluva job too)
Team playing with zero confidence
More importantly, if I read Don’s linescore above correctly, in the first five innings:
M’s: 8
Det/NYY: 37
Luckily, we haven’t given up a run in the ninth yet this road trip.
117… Dan lives in Connecticut. Sounds like he may come out for East Coast games, which would be cool. Maybe he can be Washburn’s personal pitcher.
Ryan Feierabend in Tacoma this year:
ERA (I know we aren’t supposed to put much stock in this, but nonetheless it’s): 2.15
SO : 33
BB 10
Innings: 46
HR 3
WHIP: 1.04
Surely he would be worth giving a shot to replace Washburn or Batista.
Rick L
Surely you jest. That might hurt one of our veteren’s feelings. Ugh.
FSN just ran Bedard’s line accross the screen and it said he gave up 2 runs. That isn’t right is it?
He’d have to come up with a personal catcher, though.
130: 4.1IP, 8H, 9R, 9ER, 1BB, 1HR, 3K
FAIL
Ok, I thought he gave up 9 runs, I hate FSN.
They had Bedard’s stat page up when he left the game, and incremented the hit count WHILE IT WAS ON TV because they got it wrong. Lovely stuff.
Nobody cares anymore. The team. The managers. The announcers. The fans. Nobody.
Hey, at least they’re not letting Cairo waste away on the bench anymore.
Cairo at 3B, YEEEEEEESH.
Is there a website that would show what the Mariner’s record is for most runs given up in a 6 game stretch? I would have to think that we’re going to be pushing it by the end of the game on Sunday.
Sims: “Silva will try to stop the bleeding.”
No comment necessary.
God this is like watching a trainwreck. You know it’s going to be horrific, but you can’t avert your eyes.
Then they go and put Cairo at third base, and they make the trainwreck even more devastating.
I think they pipe Ms games into the interrogation cells at Guantanamo….
Wait, when did the Ms score another run?
That’s why you shouldn’t be playing Turbo…
143-exactly. Why wasn’t the ignitor running for him?
I must be a sucker for punishment becuase I just turned the game on. Now I am turning it off and going for a beer.
Cheers everyone!
Damn it Cairo! We had a golden opportunity to get it within ten! Come on!
141… sorry, the Ms didn’t. FSN has screwed up their scoreboard. And they clearly don’t care.
PEtite was the one that gave up two runs, not Bedard.
Is it really possible for this season to make an Ms fan wretch more than the ‘04 season did?
Yeah, FSN isn’t having a good game (they rarely do), they said Bedard only gave up 2 runs, they had the M’s with 3 runs for almost an entire inning before they fixed it, and the last time they ran the Yankees line at the top of the screen, it said it was the Tigers, not the Yankees. But at least it’s on in HD.
For those who haven’t seen it, stathead Hugh Millen put together an Excel spreadsheet showing $/win over the Bavasi regime:
link
…. and Puckett is about to do a hatchet job on Bavasi. Fun!
Guess we are going for 116 losses this year rather than 116 wins.
you know, I am not at all sorry that I got called away mid-game.
Oh, man…
Puckett is going off on Felix for his calf injury, accusing him of exacerbating it when he played golf after his last game.
This is gonna be fun. 950, my friends.
Sorry for the political talk, but I just heard that Mike Gravel has picked the Mariners to win it all this year, right after he does.
According to Softy today:
Since Bavasi took over we are 25th lowest in overall wins as franchise. If I wrote this in a confusing fashion I mean that only 5 teams have lost more games than us during Bavasi’s tenure.
Since Bavasi has taken over, each win has cost the Mariners 2.5 million dollars to get.
According to Armstrong: Bavasi is doing an outstanding job.
Like Dave said on KJR … with a 118 million dollar payroll that is pathetic.
PMC – you beat me to the punch. but I outlined that spreadsheet in post 156. but if you haven’t seen that spreadsheet look at it.
maybe they are playing the drinking game
don’t much care what Piuckett thinks, actually.
159 – I agree with you, however … it seems odd Felix has an injury. I personally think our team has given up on the season but this is just speculation … or based off of our record. Mysterious injury though …
160… basically his point is that golf would have made the injury worse, and Felix was (pick stupid, reckless, whatever) to play golf when he was just pulled for being hurt.
why? he injured it during the last game, he limped around after he did it, it has been referenced all week. Do you think he faked it last start just to miss the game a week later?
Funerals are always tough events to attend. I think what we saw tonight was the start of the procession to the grave site for the casket that is carrying the very dead season of the 2008 Mariners. It will be six feet under by Sunday. Right now I’m hoping they’ll blow this team up by the end of July, because the only thing to look forward to right now is a Mariners team with new players. The Rainers could do better than this bunch of overpaid bums.
162 – I am not accusing him of anything … I am not going to do that / walk down that road … however, for some reason I wasn’t surprised that he missed this start.
We don’t even look like we are trying any more
But if he is injured … or remotely close to injured it is a smart idea to bench him. He is worth more than this season that is lost already.
Is “remotely close to injured” a medical condition? I looked on WebMD but couldn’t find it.
Ah, here is what he was talking about:
Geoff Baker’s Notebook – May 21, 2008
Worst season in Mariners history.
What else is there to say?
Before calling for Bavasi and McLaren’s heads, it’s probably a better idea to call for Chuck Armstrong’s head first. After all, he’s president of BASEBALL OPERATIONS and approved each and every one of Bill Bavasi’s moves since he became our GM.
In happier baseball related news, Doug Davis went seven innings against the Braves and gave up 1 run on 5 hits, struck out 4 and walked 2.
It’s been 6 weeks since he had surgery to remove a cancerous thyroid gland.
Wow.
We need a Lester versus Davis game.
My opinion of the Felix injury is that they know the attendance at home is down. So why not save Felix for a home game because people will come to see him regardless of how bad the team is. What do you think? Plausable?
Continuation of 168:
What the Mariners must do is fire Armstrong, then hire a man in his position that is much more of a baseball man than Chuckie is and then it should be up to him as to who stays and who goes in the front office without doing anybody favors. What this new president (i.e. Terry Ryan, Larry Beinfest, etc.) needs to do with every member of the front office and John McLaren is have some serious, no-nonsense baseball discussions as to why this situation has come up and what role every member of the front office had in making this situation happened. This btw, is basically what new New York Knicks president did when he was hired a few weeks ago to handle the Isiah Thomas situation.
In other words, every member of the front office is fair game to be fired.
Then we go and hire/fire people from there; and this move needs to be immediately so the Mariners can get a 5 month head start on this.
So sorry Chuck, time to go.
And if Howard Lincoln doesn’t have enough guts to do this, then he needs to be voted off as CEO by the Mariners board of trustees (or whatever the hell they are called) immediately.
happen*
Sorry, bad grammar.
so, the day after he had ‘tightness in his calf’ they thought it was ok for him to walk the course on his off-day, and that he was “progressing steadily.” On wednesday Felix said he was going to make his regular start, and Mel said ‘we’ll see’. He played catch on flat ground in Detroit on Thursday, still had some soreness on Friday, & so they made the decision to push him back.
Aside from happy USSM readers, I don’t think Felix affects the home box office the way RJ once did.
174… I’m actually more concerned about Felix thinking it was a good idea. He’s young, but he should know this stuff by now.
I don’t golf — how much actual walking and moving about does a duffer do? Is it mostly carts?
#174: That’s because the Mariners haven’t come close to the playoffs since Felix has been here. Once the team starts winning and getting in the playoffs, and hopefully it will be soon, then Felix will become a household name around here.
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
Thanks for the link to the DiMuro article, msb. That was interesting.
I’d gladly subscribe to a feed of the live game audio from the field if we could hear the conversations between the participants. What fun that would be!
176… bunch of google hits indicate that the calves are used in the swing; similar to their importance in pitching.
I’ve played golf for 30 years and it’s very conceivable you could aggravate a leg injury during a golf swing. As with most athletic movements, the legs are the base, and an active one, for any decent golf swing.
Then again, I’ve heard of people hurting their back by sneezing, so who knows.
It’s not particularly savvy to play golf if you have a leg injury and you’re a professional ballplayer thta needs his legs to perform, but unless the club told him specifically not to play…well, he’s 22 and as I recall from being that age…invincible.
MSB –
When I carry my clubs and golf its like an intense work out … the question is why the hell would an MLB player carry his clubs. If he didn’t … which is what I am assuming … I bet it didn’t effect him too much.
I’m a little late to the party for this one, but for about the last hour or so on KJR, Furness has been doing a chronological ranting move-by-move history of Bavasi’s reign of error — complete with soundbites.
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Baek would have been a suitable replacement for Washburn or Bastista lol.
Feirabend is more than a suitable replacement.
I want to hear what Ichiro has to say about his conversation with Mike DiMuro.
Haven’t seen anything about that, but he did have some interesting comments in the AP story for the game:
Sounds like he’s been reading the game thread here.
Or, Baker’s blog has what may be the more accurate quote. Not “brewing it,” just “booing.”
Keep it up…empty seats at the yard will force the inevitable. The last thing we need is for this team to win.
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
We may as well be the first franchise to ever win 116 and lose 116 in the same year.
We’re going to go .500 in a 232 game season?
hahaha, I think that didn’t quite come out right. You get the concept though. . .
Geez, even the old PCL back in the ’40’s only played like 210 games a year!
Puckett.
192: Thanks, MSB…my bad there. Although at times, those two sound almost interchangeable.