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		<title>By: badtad</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-275477</link>
		<dc:creator>badtad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And while were at it get rid of the way over the hill and dreadfully wrong 90% of the time.....NEEHOUSE...he is as bad or worse than the team and Bill.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while were at it get rid of the way over the hill and dreadfully wrong 90% of the time&#8230;..NEEHOUSE&#8230;he is as bad or worse than the team and Bill&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: badtad</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-275473</link>
		<dc:creator>badtad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for being &quot;blissfully real&quot; we have been screaming at bavasi and his piss poor evaluation of talent and what the team really needs.....For the last 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAVASI HAS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for being &#8220;blissfully real&#8221; we have been screaming at bavasi and his piss poor evaluation of talent and what the team really needs&#8230;..For the last 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAVASI HAS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-274993</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We’re looking for the players to step up and play like they can, not like they want to…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My favorite line.
That one really just pisses me off. The Players want to win even more than you do Bill. Don&#039;t sit here and tell us the the players are actually not trying to play their best...ugh MORON!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We’re looking for the players to step up and play like they can, not like they want to…</p></blockquote>
<p>My favorite line.<br />
That one really just pisses me off. The Players want to win even more than you do Bill. Don&#8217;t sit here and tell us the the players are actually not trying to play their best&#8230;ugh MORON!</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-274988</link>
		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 12:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Augh, sorry about the duplication. First one had a typo, and I thought I&#039;d stopped it in time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Augh, sorry about the duplication. First one had a typo, and I thought I&#8217;d stopped it in time.)</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-274987</link>
		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 12:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BillyJive, I&#039;m not impressed with Silva taking Bavasi&#039;s party line.  Here&#039;s the difference to me between what Ibanez said and what Silva said: Ibanez is playing well -- or at least hitting well -- and he&#039;s not looking for anyone to blame. Silva&#039;s stinking up the joint, and he&#039;s ready to point the finger &lt;i&gt;at other people&lt;/i&gt; (just like Bavasi).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BillyJive, I&#8217;m not impressed with Silva taking Bavasi&#8217;s party line.  Here&#8217;s the difference to me between what Ibanez said and what Silva said: Ibanez is playing well &#8212; or at least hitting well &#8212; and he&#8217;s not looking for anyone to blame. Silva&#8217;s stinking up the joint, and he&#8217;s ready to point the finger <i>at other people</i> (just like Bavasi).</p>
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		<title>By: scraps</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/24/bavasi-blissfully-unaware-of-real-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-274986</link>
		<dc:creator>scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 12:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BillyJive, I&#039;m not impressed with Silva taking Bavasi&#039;s party line.  Here&#039;s the difference to me between what Ibanez said and what Silva said: Ibanez is playing well -- or at least hitting well -- and he&#039;s not looking for anyone to blame. Silva&#039;s stinking up the joint, and he&#039;s read to point the finger &lt;i&gt;at other people&lt;/i&gt; (just like Bavasi).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BillyJive, I&#8217;m not impressed with Silva taking Bavasi&#8217;s party line.  Here&#8217;s the difference to me between what Ibanez said and what Silva said: Ibanez is playing well &#8212; or at least hitting well &#8212; and he&#8217;s not looking for anyone to blame. Silva&#8217;s stinking up the joint, and he&#8217;s read to point the finger <i>at other people</i> (just like Bavasi).</p>
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		<title>By: SABRcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>SABRcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as others have stated, being a GM means a lot of advisers and delegation.  It is just like any other head of an organization, makes decisions, but does not do all the research and stuff by themselves.  I think Dave has a pretty good grasp on not only evaluation, but contract worth, fan relations, the media, and more.  And as long as he can find people to surround himself with, he&#039;d do spectacular.  As a comparison, I would vote for a mentally retarded person for president, provided their cabinet and advisers were the BEST ever.  For heads of organizations, the ability to create the organizations&#039; structure is more important than individual ability.  There is always someone more expert at stuff.

Besides, the argument of his not having done it before so he couldn&#039;t be good is ridiculous.  Just because it hasn&#039;t been done means nothing.  I&#039;ve never raced a car on a track, but I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;d do fairly well with it, I know my talents with cars.  Dave knows his talents and limitations in baseball.  As does many others I&#039;m sure.  But the fact that he found a group of friends to make this blog, them being accurate in many respects, and getting a large fan base (including partnerships of sorts with other blogs), speaks volumes about his skill, and others.  DMZ is the same to me.  While they write differently and have differing viewpoints at times, they both know their ish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as others have stated, being a GM means a lot of advisers and delegation.  It is just like any other head of an organization, makes decisions, but does not do all the research and stuff by themselves.  I think Dave has a pretty good grasp on not only evaluation, but contract worth, fan relations, the media, and more.  And as long as he can find people to surround himself with, he&#8217;d do spectacular.  As a comparison, I would vote for a mentally retarded person for president, provided their cabinet and advisers were the BEST ever.  For heads of organizations, the ability to create the organizations&#8217; structure is more important than individual ability.  There is always someone more expert at stuff.</p>
<p>Besides, the argument of his not having done it before so he couldn&#8217;t be good is ridiculous.  Just because it hasn&#8217;t been done means nothing.  I&#8217;ve never raced a car on a track, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;d do fairly well with it, I know my talents with cars.  Dave knows his talents and limitations in baseball.  As does many others I&#8217;m sure.  But the fact that he found a group of friends to make this blog, them being accurate in many respects, and getting a large fan base (including partnerships of sorts with other blogs), speaks volumes about his skill, and others.  DMZ is the same to me.  While they write differently and have differing viewpoints at times, they both know their ish.</p>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some point, I have a feeling the M&#039;s FO board meeting was like that Directv commercial parody of a Comcast board meeting: 

&quot;We need new customers! The ones we have are all calling in and complaining!&quot;

&quot;I know! We&#039;ll make funny commercials and bobbleheads! Install a swingset! Screw those baseball fans, we&#039;ll get women and children. They won&#039;t complain.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point, I have a feeling the M&#8217;s FO board meeting was like that Directv commercial parody of a Comcast board meeting: </p>
<p>&#8220;We need new customers! The ones we have are all calling in and complaining!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I know! We&#8217;ll make funny commercials and bobbleheads! Install a swingset! Screw those baseball fans, we&#8217;ll get women and children. They won&#8217;t complain.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason that everyone at the top is backing each other right now (I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the dreaded vote of confidence) is that the core of the rotten apple is being exposed. They know that if one of them goes, it&#039;ll have to be all of them, and what are the odds of that? Not good. Even a Bavasi firing isn&#039;t going to be enough. Mac is probably the least culpable of the lot. 

Bavasi needs to go, and Howie and Chuckie need to go, or if they don&#039;t, at least get the hell outta the way. Admit that you should be in a courtroom legally ripping off people and not ruining a baseball team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason that everyone at the top is backing each other right now (I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the dreaded vote of confidence) is that the core of the rotten apple is being exposed. They know that if one of them goes, it&#8217;ll have to be all of them, and what are the odds of that? Not good. Even a Bavasi firing isn&#8217;t going to be enough. Mac is probably the least culpable of the lot. </p>
<p>Bavasi needs to go, and Howie and Chuckie need to go, or if they don&#8217;t, at least get the hell outta the way. Admit that you should be in a courtroom legally ripping off people and not ruining a baseball team.</p>
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		<title>By: PADJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PADJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean really Bill...

&lt;em&gt;&quot;This is...purely related to player performance and underperformance and underachievement.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Really?  A collapse of pitching and hitting at the same time is because of player problems?  Who decided to bring these &quot;slackers&quot; onto the team anyway Bill?

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Nobody had the nerve to pick us less than second place in our division. We were picked anything from first to second to wild-card. You name it.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Who cares?  It doesn&#039;t matter what you were picked to do.  It matters what you actually accomplish.  Quit confusing the issue by trying to spread the blame.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The expectations were a heck of a lot higher than this, based on any analysts’ evaluation of out players’ individual track records and their age. Their ages are such that they’re not all young guys that they’re inexperienced. But they’re not too old to believe that they would backslide. So, I think those expectations are realistic. They were and they are.”&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s comforting to hear that the expectations were higher than this.  One could argue that the expectations aren&#039;t high enough anyway.  But, again, quit confusing the issue.  &quot;Any&quot; analyst should be looking at the overall sum total of the team and not basing things on their individual past history and age.

This is sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean really Bill&#8230;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;This is&#8230;purely related to player performance and underperformance and underachievement.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Really?  A collapse of pitching and hitting at the same time is because of player problems?  Who decided to bring these &#8220;slackers&#8221; onto the team anyway Bill?</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Nobody had the nerve to pick us less than second place in our division. We were picked anything from first to second to wild-card. You name it.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Who cares?  It doesn&#8217;t matter what you were picked to do.  It matters what you actually accomplish.  Quit confusing the issue by trying to spread the blame.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The expectations were a heck of a lot higher than this, based on any analysts’ evaluation of out players’ individual track records and their age. Their ages are such that they’re not all young guys that they’re inexperienced. But they’re not too old to believe that they would backslide. So, I think those expectations are realistic. They were and they are.”</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s comforting to hear that the expectations were higher than this.  One could argue that the expectations aren&#8217;t high enough anyway.  But, again, quit confusing the issue.  &#8220;Any&#8221; analyst should be looking at the overall sum total of the team and not basing things on their individual past history and age.</p>
<p>This is sad.</p>
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