Comments on: The Dayton Game, Mariner-style http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Zonis http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277461 Zonis Sat, 31 May 2008 17:40:34 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277461 Lets see if I can do this for the A's. (Be interesting to compare the other AL West teams as well). Hitting: Daric Barton Travis Buck Carlos Gonzalez Mike Sweeney Power: Jack Cust Frank Thomas Speed: Rajai Davis Travis Buck Defense: Mark Ellis Bobby Crosby Eric Chavez Arm: Donnie Murphy Bobby Crosby Does that sound good? Trying not to be too biased. Barton, Buck and Gonzalez I am basing it mostly on their minor league track records since they are pretty much rookies. But if we are going just with tools that have already been realized in the Major Leagues, scratch those three and leave just Sweeney in Hitting (hitting for average is really the only thing left he seems able to do), and that is that. Lets see if I can do this for the A’s. (Be interesting to compare the other AL West teams as well).

Hitting:
Daric Barton
Travis Buck
Carlos Gonzalez
Mike Sweeney

Power:
Jack Cust
Frank Thomas

Speed:
Rajai Davis
Travis Buck

Defense:
Mark Ellis
Bobby Crosby
Eric Chavez

Arm:
Donnie Murphy
Bobby Crosby

Does that sound good? Trying not to be too biased. Barton, Buck and Gonzalez I am basing it mostly on their minor league track records since they are pretty much rookies.

But if we are going just with tools that have already been realized in the Major Leagues, scratch those three and leave just Sweeney in Hitting (hitting for average is really the only thing left he seems able to do), and that is that.

]]> By: Mat http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277132 Mat Fri, 30 May 2008 22:40:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277132 <i>So Dave found 18 60-grade Mariner tools, while Posnanski found *two* on the Royals. Either Dave’s being too generous or Joe is being too harsh.</i> I think Dave may have been considering slightly different categories than Posnanski, plus there's also the possibility that KC just has that few tools compared to the Mariners. I would be interested to know Dave's opinion on Royals with 60+ tools, though. So Dave found 18 60-grade Mariner tools, while Posnanski found *two* on the Royals. Either Dave’s being too generous or Joe is being too harsh.

I think Dave may have been considering slightly different categories than Posnanski, plus there’s also the possibility that KC just has that few tools compared to the Mariners. I would be interested to know Dave’s opinion on Royals with 60+ tools, though.

]]> By: BaltimoreDave http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277076 BaltimoreDave Fri, 30 May 2008 19:37:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277076 So Dave found 18 60-grade Mariner tools, while Posnanski found *two* on the Royals. Either Dave's being too generous or Joe is being too harsh. So Dave found 18 60-grade Mariner tools, while Posnanski found *two* on the Royals. Either Dave’s being too generous or Joe is being too harsh.

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277066 bratman Fri, 30 May 2008 19:06:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277066 Well Red Fairly never wanted his pitchers throwing anywhere but home ... Well Red Fairly never wanted his pitchers throwing anywhere but home …

]]> By: kidlondon http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277064 kidlondon Fri, 30 May 2008 18:44:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277064 Garlic Fries have "60" rated flavor, that's my kind of all star. Garlic Fries have “60″ rated flavor, that’s my kind of all star.

]]> By: Mike Snow http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277062 Mike Snow Fri, 30 May 2008 18:32:56 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277062 Right, I was seeing it as an oversight by Posnanski more than Derek. Right, I was seeing it as an oversight by Posnanski more than Derek.

]]> By: Dave http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277061 Dave Fri, 30 May 2008 18:30:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277061 Derek specifically mentioned position players, so that's what we're talking about. But yes, if we ventured off into pitcher land, we'd find a few more. Derek specifically mentioned position players, so that’s what we’re talking about. But yes, if we ventured off into pitcher land, we’d find a few more.

]]> By: Mike Snow http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277060 Mike Snow Fri, 30 May 2008 18:28:32 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277060 Position players only? I know that's what Posnanski apparently focused on, but don't scouts also use the scale for pitching skills (and individual pitch types, I believe)? Plenty of 60s out of Felix, Bedard, Morrow, and Putz. I'd think even the Royals would have squeezed something out of Zack Greinke for this game. Position players only? I know that’s what Posnanski apparently focused on, but don’t scouts also use the scale for pitching skills (and individual pitch types, I believe)? Plenty of 60s out of Felix, Bedard, Morrow, and Putz. I’d think even the Royals would have squeezed something out of Zack Greinke for this game.

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277059 joser Fri, 30 May 2008 18:24:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277059 I put Ichiro in the "Jazz Hands" category. (Wasn't that what he was doing after he ran into the wall the other night?) I put Ichiro in the “Jazz Hands” category. (Wasn’t that what he was doing after he ran into the wall the other night?)

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/05/30/the-dayton-game-mariner-style/comment-page-1/#comment-277057 bratman Fri, 30 May 2008 18:12:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5256#comment-277057 Now that I think about it more, I think we should add Bill Bavasi to the 'Approach' Category. Can't believe I missed that one the first time around. Now that I think about it more, I think we should add Bill Bavasi to the ‘Approach’ Category.

Can’t believe I missed that one the first time around.

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