Game 60, Angels at Mariners

DMZ · June 4, 2008 at 12:40 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

1:40 early start time.

“No one in their right mind thought we’d be in this position right now — the team we had and the additions that we had, good Spring Training, the talent we had,” he said. “Nobody thought that we’d be in this position right now, but we are. Let’s face the facts — we are in this position. We’ve got to get ourselves out of it.”

McLaren, from MLB.com

Ignorance as a warm, comforting blanket of reassurance. May the rumors you’re going to be canned before the road trip come true, as some small pre-payment on a much larger purge to be completed soon enough.

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187 Responses to “Game 60, Angels at Mariners”

  1. JMHawkins on June 4th, 2008 4:06 pm

    So, I’m looking at our pitching staff on sportsline’s Gamecenter. We are carrying 12 pitchers. Why we carry a 12 man staff in June is beyond me. Our bullpen had the following IPs:

    Green 30.1
    RRS 25.1
    Lowe 23.1
    Dickey 22.1
    Putz 17.2
    Morrow 15.0
    Rhodes 10.0

    Morrow, for all his “looking good” is not pitching. He’s on pace for about 40 IPs this year. Send him down to work into the rotation at Tacoma already. He is simply wasting time right now.

    Rhodes is firmly ensconced in the LOOGY role (averaging 2.6 batters faced per appearance). Assuming a 60-win team even needs a LOOGY, is a 38 year old LOOGY part of a rebuilding plan?

  2. G-Man on June 4th, 2008 4:08 pm

    Hey, Dave said Napoli is not a threat.

  3. G-Man on June 4th, 2008 4:08 pm

    I CAN”T BELEIVE WHAT I JUST SAW!

  4. David* on June 4th, 2008 4:09 pm

    Raul, so graceful.

  5. maalox on June 4th, 2008 4:09 pm

    Wow, I didn’t think he was going to be anywhere close.

  6. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 4:09 pm

    I’m sorry. Maybe a faster-of-foot outfielder wouldn’t have made that dramatic, but as long as they insist on running Raul out there…I’ll give him a couple of U’s for the effort in that last play.

    Now, how about some runs?

  7. RealRhino on June 4th, 2008 4:09 pm

    Okay, Sexson is not doing well. I’m not saying that he is.

    But I read over some guy’s shoulder today that one of the local papers was saying he needs to be released.

    So the guy with an OPS of .682 needs to be released, but the DH with an OPS of .613 is batting cleanup? After Richie sat for 5-6 days behind a guy with an OPS of .507? And the guy with an OPS of .566 just got signed to a 3-year extension?

    What kind of logic is this?

  8. JerBear on June 4th, 2008 4:10 pm

    Crap. There’s another couple months for Raul in LF. Wait, he’ll be out there all season anyway.

  9. jro on June 4th, 2008 4:11 pm

    So, how many batters have we gone through since putting the ball in play against K-rod? 4, 5, 6?

  10. Hustl504 on June 4th, 2008 4:13 pm

    Did Raul really just catch that?

  11. JMHawkins on June 4th, 2008 4:13 pm

    What kind of logic is this?

    Marinerlogic. My, oh, my.

    Y’know, the more I think about it, the more I realize Dave Niehaus is a genius. His signature phrase works perfectly well for an exciting team winning 116 games, or a dismal train-wreck of a club skidding to 100 losses.

  12. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 4:15 pm

    Nope. No runs.

  13. joser on June 4th, 2008 4:15 pm

    I don’t understand the mindset that settles on Richie Sexson as “the problem.”

    I don’t understand how anybody thinks putting Cairo at 1B is an answer to any question regarding good baseball ideas.

    I don’t understand why anybody is still mentally rearranging deck chairs on this particular titanic. I mean, it’s not like the chairs are even dry anymore; the ship is already deep in the mud on the bottom of the sea.

    Unless you can trade guys for something that will help in ’09, it really doesn’t matter. But hey, maybe they can swap Sexson to the Brewers for Bill Hall. One sub-Mendoza slugger who gets booed at home for another.

  14. AssumedName on June 4th, 2008 4:19 pm

    Can’t we grab Prince Fielder? Ichiro can hook him up with some tofu…

  15. et_blankenship on June 4th, 2008 4:19 pm

    So . . . the Mariners have a 12-3 record in their last 15 games and the 45 games before that weren’t so great either. Firings and all of that other ugly stuff typically happens at the front end of a road trip. Is this the week serious changes are made or will we have to wait until the 19th? Or, dare I say, October?

  16. Turbopotamus on June 4th, 2008 4:21 pm

    But hey, maybe they can swap Sexson to the Brewers for Bill Hall.

    I’d rather send the Brewers YuBet for Matt LaPorta.

  17. John in L.A. on June 4th, 2008 4:22 pm

    12-3 for their last fifteen?

    EXTENSION TIME!

  18. Nate on June 4th, 2008 4:23 pm

    I imagine that the Angels are sitting there now, saying “wow, that was the worst series we’ve played all year, and we swept them in Seattle.”

    what did we do today? out hit them 12 to 8 or something? to lose again 5-4.

    sad.

  19. et_blankenship on June 4th, 2008 4:26 pm

    12-3 for their last fifteen?

    I knew something looked wrong when I hit the submit button. In addition to aggravated and cynical, the Mariners have now made me dyslexic. Sweet.

  20. RealRhino on June 4th, 2008 4:28 pm

    I don’t understand the mindset that settles on Richie Sexson as “the problem.”
    …
    I don’t understand how anybody thinks putting Cairo at 1B is an answer to any question regarding good baseball ideas.

    I don’t understand why anybody is still mentally rearranging deck chairs on this particular titanic. I mean, it’s not like the chairs are even dry anymore; the ship is already deep in the mud on the bottom of the sea.

    Unless you can trade guys for something that will help in ‘09, it really doesn’t matter. But hey, maybe they can swap Sexson to the Brewers for Bill Hall. One sub-Mendoza slugger who gets booed at home for another.

    Well, I don’t understand it either. The M’s pregame has got to be the most annoying radio ever. It seems like every time I turn it on, they are talking about fixing things by rearranging the batting order. Like moving Vidro from 6th to 4th makes him better. Ugh.

  21. msb on June 4th, 2008 4:31 pm

    ooh, yay!

    KOMO has to hold off on the postgame remarks by Mac, as they have to try to edit for family listening 🙂

  22. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 4:31 pm

    Heee heee.

    Brad Adam handled the punt very smoothly on-air, but FSN tried to carry Mac’s post-game speech live…only to cut very quickly once the number of “pissed off”s were likely to push the daytime audience’s tolerance level…

    “Looks like we’ll have to get to that later and add some bleeps”–Brad Adam.

  23. lailaihei on June 4th, 2008 4:33 pm

    So… how long until Dickey is in the rotation?

  24. MattThompson on June 4th, 2008 4:33 pm

    Wow, FSN just went to Mac’s post-game press conference, then instantly cut away, realizing they’re going to have to bleep out what looks to be a pretty good rant.

    I just heard ‘I’m pissed off, the players are pissed off…’

  25. Swungonandbelted on June 4th, 2008 4:33 pm

    Dave may deserver the HoF for his broadcasting career, calling this team this year should qualify him for a sainthood though…

  26. jro on June 4th, 2008 4:34 pm

    Why, exactly, is Mac mad *now* but hasn’t been since, well, up until now?

  27. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 4:34 pm

    Wow, Matt Thompson…talk about being TWO MINUTES LATE.

    (At least msb and I posted our similar info at the exact same time… 😉 )

  28. Some Dude on June 4th, 2008 4:37 pm

    God I hope those are the last words I hear Mac speak as manager of this team.

  29. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 4:38 pm

    Regarding Dickey going into the line-up.

    You’d put your trust in a disgruntled Washburn to be the long relief guy for when Silva (or Bedard or Batista) digs himself too deep to get out of himself?

    I’m of the mindset that we make the rotation: Felix, Dickey, Dickey, Dickey.

    Yeah, that wouldn’t really work because Felix would probably get too tired.

    (Semi-serious question: If the M’s end up bringing Freddy back…is that good or bad for Felix?)

  30. Nate on June 4th, 2008 4:39 pm

    oh, that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day, radio feed:

    “McLaren’s post-game comments, even though we can’t let you hear them, are brought to you by BECU. the Employee owners of…”

  31. Henry Reed on June 4th, 2008 4:47 pm

    Maybe if he yells loud enough, Mac won’t hear the words “You’re fired.”

  32. MattThompson on June 4th, 2008 4:54 pm

    pgreyy-yeah, but I’m tapping these out on a Blackberry. Not conducive to high-speed touchtyping.

  33. pgreyy on June 4th, 2008 5:13 pm

    Oh, Matt, as a CrackBerryist myself, I feel ya…

    I was just being silly about how foolish is the urge to be FIRST.

    I couldn’t be mad at you. We’re all brothers in Mariner misery.

  34. Steve T on June 4th, 2008 5:40 pm

    Our DH has an OPS of .599. How is that possible? Most teams would be looking for a solution if that production was coming from shortstop. It’s coming from the D-EFFING-H.

    One of our first basemen has an OPS of .677, and he’s being subbed out on occasion with our other 1B who has an OPS of .507. FIVE OH SEVEN. That’s … that’s … that’s ….

    FIVE OH SEVEN.

    What in the name of Ned makes that happen?

  35. msb on June 4th, 2008 5:51 pm

    on the walk home, I switched over to KJR to hear if they had Mac’s rant up yet (KOMO was still editing) and Furness was teasing the postgame show …. by once again ranting about Bedard and the media.

    huh?

    it is rapidly assuming obsessive proportions.

  36. Tom in Edmonds on June 4th, 2008 5:54 pm
  37. joser on June 4th, 2008 6:15 pm

    God I hope those are the last words I hear Mac speak as manager of this team.

    Well, it is the perfect setup:

    SEATTLE (June 5) - Saying his "family-unfriendly comments" were the last straw, the Mariners fired John McLaren today, one day after he began an after-game press conference with a obscenity-laden rant, the beginning of which was carried live on TV and radio. Citing "other issues with the performance of the team," General Manager Bill Bavasi made the announcement as the team departed to begin a weekend series in Boston...

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