Comments on: M’s Select Fields http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:17:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: OppositeField http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279433 OppositeField Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:07:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279433 I would have picked Shooter Hunt just on name alone I would have picked Shooter Hunt just on name alone

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279408 bratman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:58:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279408 To answer my own post from Dave: <blockquote>Not a reliever. Reese Havens, Christian Freidrich, Shooter Hunt, Jake Ordorizzi, Zach Collier, Conor Gillaspie… the list is long.</blockquote> Guess he wasn't the best choice, but was he the best overall talent? To answer my own post from Dave:

Not a reliever. Reese Havens, Christian Freidrich, Shooter Hunt, Jake Ordorizzi, Zach Collier, Conor Gillaspie… the list is long.

Guess he wasn’t the best choice, but was he the best overall talent?

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279392 bratman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:22:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279392 And if there is someone better to have taken at that point in the draft I would like to know some names. I am not saying there aren't others I just haven't heard names yet. I have a feeling one of the USSM guys will give an in depth opinion soon, maybe about some other options we could have chosen/routes we coudl have taken. We did the Fontaine 'choose the best player' method, I guess. And if there is someone better to have taken at that point in the draft I would like to know some names. I am not saying there aren’t others I just haven’t heard names yet.

I have a feeling one of the USSM guys will give an in depth opinion soon, maybe about some other options we could have chosen/routes we coudl have taken.

We did the Fontaine ‘choose the best player’ method, I guess.

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279391 bratman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:19:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279391 92 - Couldn't agree with you more on the approach. I think USSM (on the whole) agrees that we DID NOT need a reliever/should not have chose one first round. Even with that being said, we didn't choose picking 20th overall. Can't make something out of nothing. Lets thank he overachieving 2007 Mariners accomplished that for that pick number. 92 – Couldn’t agree with you more on the approach. I think USSM (on the whole) agrees that we DID NOT need a reliever/should not have chose one first round.

Even with that being said, we didn’t choose picking 20th overall. Can’t make something out of nothing. Lets thank he overachieving 2007 Mariners accomplished that for that pick number.

]]> By: John in L.A. http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279390 John in L.A. Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:09:33 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279390 Ok, Bratman. Cool. I will be excited to see him pitch, too. But, boy, I hate that approach to the first round. Ok, Bratman. Cool. I will be excited to see him pitch, too. But, boy, I hate that approach to the first round.

]]> By: yofarbs http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279389 yofarbs Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:56:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279389 This pick could show a glimmer of self-awareness. Perhaps management realizes that they are not capable of assembling a good staff of starting pitchers, so they will only require the starters to go 4 or 5 innings. Lowe, Fields, Morrow, and Putz pitch the last 4 innings of each game. This pick could show a glimmer of self-awareness. Perhaps management realizes that they are not capable of assembling a good staff of starting pitchers, so they will only require the starters to go 4 or 5 innings. Lowe, Fields, Morrow, and Putz pitch the last 4 innings of each game.

]]> By: killer_ewok18 http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279388 killer_ewok18 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:55:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279388 <blockquote>Worst pick The first round had a few head-scratchers, but two of them really stand out. One is Josh Fields. He actually has good value for when he was picked, but it makes absolutely no sense for the worst team in baseball to take a college reliever whose value is tied up in "now." The Mariners' best prospects are all in Class A ball, years away, and they're light on both power bats and high-probability starting pitching. Their big league club is second-to-last in the AL in scoring, third-to-last in ERA and dead last in starters' ERA. This is a team that has to be thinking about the future. You look at that club, and that organization, and decide that the best thing to do in the draft is take a reliever who can come to the big leagues right away? - Keith Law, ESPN</blockquote> Oops. Maybe the Mariners are going the "any PR is good PR" route.

Worst pick
The first round had a few head-scratchers, but two of them really stand out. One is Josh Fields. He actually has good value for when he was picked, but it makes absolutely no sense for the worst team in baseball to take a college reliever whose value is tied up in “now.” The Mariners’ best prospects are all in Class A ball, years away, and they’re light on both power bats and high-probability starting pitching. Their big league club is second-to-last in the AL in scoring, third-to-last in ERA and dead last in starters’ ERA. This is a team that has to be thinking about the future. You look at that club, and that organization, and decide that the best thing to do in the draft is take a reliever who can come to the big leagues right away? – Keith Law, ESPN

Oops.

Maybe the Mariners are going the “any PR is good PR” route.

]]> By: wlad http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279387 wlad Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:48:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279387 Worst Pick according to ESPN. YAY MARINERS!!! But i do think he will setup and maybe close next year if JJ gets traded Worst Pick according to ESPN. YAY MARINERS!!!

But i do think he will setup and maybe close next year if JJ gets traded

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279386 bratman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:43:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279386 I wanted to know what the other choice was at 20 that would have been <em>that</em> much better (I tried looking for suggestions, granted I could have missed them, lots of text) that was the main point. While at the same time I think this kid is very good. I wanted to know what the other choice was at 20 that would have been that much better (I tried looking for suggestions, granted I could have missed them, lots of text) that was the main point.

While at the same time I think this kid is very good.

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/ms-select-fields/comment-page-2/#comment-279385 bratman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:40:46 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5289#comment-279385 We mostly agree, as you pointed out vigorously. I just said with no one else available, I don't think its bad pick considering circumstances. We mostly agree, as you pointed out vigorously. I just said with no one else available, I don’t think its bad pick considering circumstances.

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