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	<title>Comments on: The source of not hitting with runners on is not hitting</title>
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		<title>By: The Ghost of Spike Owen</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/10/the-source-of-not-hitting-with-runners-on-is-not-hitting/comment-page-1/#comment-280657</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ghost of Spike Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next time somebody says something to me about average with RISP, I&#039;m referring them to the third paragraph of this post. Those numbers are damn near identical. There&#039;s no such thing as clutch hitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time somebody says something to me about average with RISP, I&#8217;m referring them to the third paragraph of this post. Those numbers are damn near identical. There&#8217;s no such thing as clutch hitting.</p>
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		<title>By: DKJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DKJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the current Mariner horror compare to the Oakland A&#039;s terrible season last year?

What would Billy Beane do?

Purely for speculation, of course. Absent a sudden, Rapture-like disappearance of about a half dozen (maybe more) problem people, it won&#039;t happen in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the current Mariner horror compare to the Oakland A&#8217;s terrible season last year?</p>
<p>What would Billy Beane do?</p>
<p>Purely for speculation, of course. Absent a sudden, Rapture-like disappearance of about a half dozen (maybe more) problem people, it won&#8217;t happen in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: mln</title>
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		<dc:creator>mln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution to the Mariners problem not hitting with RISP is very simple: don&#039;t put RISP in the first place. 

That annoying little problem of hitting with runners on base will vanish like magic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution to the Mariners problem not hitting with RISP is very simple: don&#8217;t put RISP in the first place. </p>
<p>That annoying little problem of hitting with runners on base will vanish like magic!</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the offense is good right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the offense is good right?</p>
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		<title>By: hoser</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when McLaren challenged Ichiro to steal more bases (75?) he created a monster.  Ichiro has been stealing more (26 times in 64 games! (yeah, yeah, I know, low n) nearly on course) and so he is in scoring position more.  That causes his teammates to fail with runners in scoring position more.  That in turn affects their confidence and we see the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when McLaren challenged Ichiro to steal more bases (75?) he created a monster.  Ichiro has been stealing more (26 times in 64 games! (yeah, yeah, I know, low n) nearly on course) and so he is in scoring position more.  That causes his teammates to fail with runners in scoring position more.  That in turn affects their confidence and we see the result.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another record I wonder about for this M&#039;s team is the percentage of runs scored on outs.  It seems like this team scores a huge percentage of its runs on outs.  First and third, no outs, DP scores the run.  Man on third, 1 out, grounder to second scores the run.  Bases loaded sac fly.  It means lots of innings that start out promising and should end up with crooked numbers end up with one run, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another record I wonder about for this M&#8217;s team is the percentage of runs scored on outs.  It seems like this team scores a huge percentage of its runs on outs.  First and third, no outs, DP scores the run.  Man on third, 1 out, grounder to second scores the run.  Bases loaded sac fly.  It means lots of innings that start out promising and should end up with crooked numbers end up with one run, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, right on. It&#039;s old news, but news to some, and you can never say it enough. If there was anyone on this team who could hit AT ALL, RISP hitting would rise too. I wonder if Ichiro is a candidate for &quot;most times left on&quot; -- gotta be someone like him, with high OBP, low HR, and terrible teammates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, right on. It&#8217;s old news, but news to some, and you can never say it enough. If there was anyone on this team who could hit AT ALL, RISP hitting would rise too. I wonder if Ichiro is a candidate for &#8220;most times left on&#8221; &#8212; gotta be someone like him, with high OBP, low HR, and terrible teammates.</p>
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		<title>By: Benne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ichiro, Raul and J. Lo need to stop clogging the bases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ichiro, Raul and J. Lo need to stop clogging the bases.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The M’s BA with RISP is .022 below their ‘normal’ - the AL as a whole is .005 above ‘normal with RISP.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

And that&#039;s actually pretty easy to explain.  Derek hinted at it. 

When the M&#039;s have RISP, that probably means Ichiro or Lopez is the runner, which means Vidro or Sexson or Johjima or someone else hugging the Mendoza line is the batter.  If Ichiro or Lopez is at bat, there probably aren&#039;t any RISP because nobody else can hit.  

Ichiro, Ibanez and Lopez (I-I-L) have the three highest OBP of the regulars on the team.  Remove them from the RISP equation and the rest of the team is 73-392 with RISP, a whopping .214.  The non IIL players strike out 16% of the time with RISP, and ground into DPs almost 4% of the time.  For IIL, it&#039;s 9% K and 2% GDP with RISP.  

Put it this way:  if Ichiro is on base, then Ichiro can&#039;t be at bat to knock himself in.  If Ichiro is at bat, then Ichiro can&#039;t be on base to get knocked in.  That is the crux of the M&#039;s offensive problem.  Lauren asked on an earlier thread how the Ichiro Cloning experiement was going.   That is what we need, but alas, it&#039;s not going well.  The clones keep killing themselves as soon as they see the rest of the team. Unless we can fix that problem, we&#039;re doomed.</description>
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<blockquote>The M’s BA with RISP is .022 below their ‘normal’ &#8211; the AL as a whole is .005 above ‘normal with RISP.</p></blockquote>
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<p>And that&#8217;s actually pretty easy to explain.  Derek hinted at it. </p>
<p>When the M&#8217;s have RISP, that probably means Ichiro or Lopez is the runner, which means Vidro or Sexson or Johjima or someone else hugging the Mendoza line is the batter.  If Ichiro or Lopez is at bat, there probably aren&#8217;t any RISP because nobody else can hit.  </p>
<p>Ichiro, Ibanez and Lopez (I-I-L) have the three highest OBP of the regulars on the team.  Remove them from the RISP equation and the rest of the team is 73-392 with RISP, a whopping .214.  The non IIL players strike out 16% of the time with RISP, and ground into DPs almost 4% of the time.  For IIL, it&#8217;s 9% K and 2% GDP with RISP.  </p>
<p>Put it this way:  if Ichiro is on base, then Ichiro can&#8217;t be at bat to knock himself in.  If Ichiro is at bat, then Ichiro can&#8217;t be on base to get knocked in.  That is the crux of the M&#8217;s offensive problem.  Lauren asked on an earlier thread how the Ichiro Cloning experiement was going.   That is what we need, but alas, it&#8217;s not going well.  The clones keep killing themselves as soon as they see the rest of the team. Unless we can fix that problem, we&#8217;re doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports on a Schtick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sports on a Schtick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triunfel hit his first home run tonight. In two years the M&#039;s offensive woes will be solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triunfel hit his first home run tonight. In two years the M&#8217;s offensive woes will be solved.</p>
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