Game 68, Nationals at Mariners
DMZ · June 14, 2008 at 6:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Clippard vs. The Interview, 7:10.
Here’s a fun game: before you look at the lineups, try and name as many Nationals starting today as you can.
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Um… Clippard?
2002 Jose Vidro.
Okay, I can do this. Milledge. Dukes. Young. Uh…Aybar? Do they have a guy named Aybar. Wait! The secondbaseman who used to play for St. Louis I think. I can picture him. He has corn rows. Um…I wanna say Betancourt, but that’s not right. Oh! Guzman! Well, how’d I do?
Our lineup:
Ichiro!
Lopez
Vidro
Ibanez
Beltre
Sexson
Balentien
Burke
Betancourt
(aka generic lineup #3)
Nats:
Guzman
Dukes
Milledge
Young
Flores
Belliard
Lopez
Pena
Casto
Battle of the crappy lineups!
Dimitri Young
Elijah Dukes
Flores
Boone
Felipe Lopez
Milledge
Guzman
Oh please, that last guy must have cheated. I only got four and a half (I’m giving myself the half), but damnit, I was honest!
As I said in the gathering today, who exactly is the star who will make anyone say, “Hey, the Nationals are in town. Let’s go to the Safe and see…”
Ummm. Young.
That’s the only one that I could have named, but work on my dissertation has led me to basically give up following the NL.
Are you an Immortal?
Sorry couldn’t resist. I found out that I could watch Highlander for free on my computer last week.
“Are you an Immortal?”
No, this season just feels like it’s gone on forever.
Reason number 4 why the season was doomed before it started – who thought that “LA Woman” was a good song for a Seattle team to use as its theme?
No pigmentally-challenged Beltre bobblehead for tonight’s game. I wonder how many people will bother to show up. This is a blah game if there ever were one.
And I thought we were painful… at least we haven’t given 144 at bats to Wily Mo… I mean seriously, 511 OPS and he’s their DH tonight? Why not play Nieves, or a pitcher or something?
Yeah, it’s like using Jose Vidro as your — shit.
Wow, I don’t know the last time I’ve seen someone that far out at the plate. Young was out by about 10 feet.
At least Pena isn’t batting 3rd.
Wow that guy is fat
Ichi-NO!
meh, Ichiro! beats that out last year.
Maybe he thought he saw some Niugini Ice waiting for him at third base?
Damn, Ichi scores on that.
I wonder if Ichiro would have run less aggressively without Vidro batting two batters later. Although we should thank our stars it wasn’t Bloomie batting second again.
Has there been any word/rumors on the TV and radio ratings for the Ms?
OK, I stepped out, someone fill me in.
One of the umps headed into the M’s tunnel…
They decided that the game was moving too quickly.
Well, this is a busy game thread.
I think we’re all still trying to digest the recent changes in Nate’s electoral projection methodology over at fivethirtyeight.
I went to a Nats game at RFK last year. I had to take a long conference call while the game was going on, so I went and sat in the centerfield seats. I didn’t disturb a soul because there wasn’t anyone within ten sections of me. I presume it’s better with the new park. RFK made the Kingdome seem like paradise.
I’m working on the web server config file while I watch. Because that’s what I do.
Every time Young’s on screen I’m a little shocked at how huge he is.
See, that’s why Vidro is hitting third!
Turbo!
I half-expect Dmitri Young to start yelling “Git in mah belly!” to Bloomquist.
Beer of the evening is Mothership Wit. Mmm.
I found a bottle of “The Immortal IPA” from Elysian brewing, good stuff =)
OMG! Video homers! Excitement!
and now Beltre! We have some offensive output tonight guys and gals!
This game could actually turn out to be interesting! And I will have more opportunities to use exclamation points!
that was a beautiful play
At the beginning of last season, I thought it would be a good idea to get my dad to start watching Mariner games. He’s retired, TV in general is terrible, I could watch games with him, yada yada yada.
Now I feel like I have to be really special to him for the whole Father’s Day weekend to make up for it. It was an unintentionally horrible thing to do to someone I love. On the other hand, it gives me someone who understands Sexson angst, Vidro angst, Washburn angst, ad naseum.
I think all the usual suspects were at the feed, and went on to the game. Or the felt they’d filled their USSM-related (and Mariner-related) quota, and they’re doing something else.
Or maybe the idea of using the first ~warm Saturday night in ages to watch this sad team battle the
YankeeWashington Clippard just was a non-starter.Wow, the fangraph for the Pirates/Orioles game is enough to give you vertigo. The Twins-Brewers game looks like it was more exciting than the final score would suggest, too.
Okay..time for more funk blasts!!!!
Go Baconator!!
oops..I mean Turbo…
Oh, who was the guest at the feed?
We had Larry Stone and Bob Fontaine. I’m sure Dave will throw up a post about it later. It was pretty great.
I almost went from the feed to the game, but was too depressed by Turbo hitting third.
Guests were Larry Stone and Bob Fontaine, and they were both seriously awesome.
Nicely done there Richey Ralley Killer…FAIL.
Shoulda pinch-hit with the mighty Cairo….
*sigh*
Fontaine was awesome at the Aquasox game last year.
I figured it wasn’t Armstrong or Bavasi.
I wish I lived closer to Seattle..I woulda gone..
I hung around for the first few innings, but it was too darned cold up on the 3rd level, and the game wasn’t that compelling until the mystery of Jerry Crawford’s back happened– so I walked up and bussed on home.
Dmitri Young looks even larger in person. It was pretty comical watching him lumber towards third.
it was a very nice feed and very entertaining, as usual.
crap.
Daddy, Won’t you take me back to Mulenberg County, down by the green water where paradise lay…
Sorry my son but you are too late in asking’ Mr. Peabody’s coal train has
Hauled it Away!
No!!! Bautista…
speaking of pitching deliveries (as we were earlier) Clippard sure looks funky from the side
What’s with the John Prine?
Inspiration on a Saturday night.
Down 4-2.
sad & depressing, like this team?
ok, what the heck was that for? was he told to try a bunt? on ball four?
That might have been the worst at-bat I’ve ever seen.
I hope this season ends with “Don’t Stop Believing.”
I just wanna quote what Rick Rizzzszszs just said, “The Mariners’ offensive chances just went POOP.”
Oh, so that’s how you don’t score after getting first two runner s on. Thanks. Wasn’t sure how the team keeps pulling it off, but it’s made quite clear to me now.
two on, no out
missed bunt= out 1
gidp = out 2&3
that’s why losing 2-4 instead of tied or winning after a great pitching performance (vs. a crappy offense)
*sigh*
What percentage is coaching? Seems like players bunting is 70% coaching, no?
you know, just when you think you’ve seen every way they can fail to score a run, they surprise you.
I suppose that is something.
60 — Seriously. I was in the kitchen with the computer/radio about 10 feet from me and I hear Rick saying something about “sacrifice bunt” and then “foul tip” and I’m thinking “Wasn’t there two on with nobody out… WTF?” And then, the Mariners’ BFF: GIDP.
Man, Safeco is pretty at night. I wish I felt like going.
I’m going to go make my dad some chocolate chip cookies.
Sure am glad they replaced the hitting coach. You can tell what a difference that made.
Over 32,000? That’s masochism right there.
Wow, whatever happened to Willy Moe Pena? I remember when he was coming up with the Reds people were talking about an all- world slugging outfield of Griffey, Dunn and Pena.
Richie Sexson: Not just epic skills with the bat
I know. Who ARE these people that would want to blow $20 on parking, $100 on food, and another $100+ on tickets for this garbage?
And stop doing the damn wave! It feels too much like 1982 again.
I sense a fade to black coming soon for me. Only a few more beers…
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I know. Who ARE these people that would want to blow $20 on parking, $100 on food, and another $100+ on tickets for this garbage?
But, but, you get the cool Father’s Day T-shirt. It’s a steal.
Sorry I meant;
http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNKJVBTC8ZR2BLR
Yahoo called the Dodgers mediocre. Ah, I remember the good ole days when the M’s were just mediocre and not “laughing stock of the sports world.”
Jose Vidro, DH. Sigh. Glug, glug.
Tom — please use the link button.
Raul… (shaking head)
Man.
OK…
78 – very nice voice.
(singing) Don’t stop… believin’…
(turns off TV)
I happened to notice this morning that the team with the highest OBP is the Gerald Perry hitting-coached Chicago Cubs. Interesting in light of the stats someone posted the other day after Pentland got canned, where it looked like we had plate discipline under Perry as well, but have gotten progressively worse since he left.
Yay.
I just got back from watching my nieces’ dance recital. There was a lot more highly coordinated movement there than you’ll see in Safeco these days.
At the thing today, I noticed Bob Fontaine said once or twice “eighteen games under .500″. He’s off by a day — we’re nineteen under. In a few minutes, I expect them to be twenty.
Have we had a come back win this year?
In the ninth? Probably not. And if the M’s have I doubt tonight will be another.
surely at some point they have to look at this team and admit that it just a bad team, not a good team playing badly.
they just gotta.
Release. Sexson. Today.
Did Fontaine address the suckitude of this team? Granted it is not his fault, but he is still ‘upper management’ of the Ms.
Just one.
Not going to this game was a really good move.
New slogan for your 2008 Seattle Mariners: “Sweet Whisky Can’t Kick In Fast Enough”.
Great 9th, way to battle
Oh brother, KJR (Nelson, I guess) is blaming Bedard for coming out after “only” 99 pitches.
Chances Bedard stays in this hell-hole: 0%
I’ve been surprised at all the venom thrown his way for not ‘manning up’ and pitching longer in 98 degree/plus humidity after that 40 pitch 3rd inning last week.
Bedard will be over the hill before we’re competitive again, and that’s a best-case scenario, in my opinion. I would love to see a trade to a contending team that nets us some young talent in return, but of course our FO would never sell out the season ticket holders by folding our chance at contention in ‘09 through trading Bedard now. Heaven forbid we try to rebuild something that’s obviously broken. Better to try to overhaul the engine while going 40 on the freeway than take it to a garage, right?
McLaren is ripping Yuni for bunting on his own on 3-and-2. He looks like he’s going to cry.
Sexson: Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
I meant to ask this afternoon how much of this reluctance to fold is because of the constant refrain they must hear from those “average fan” (ie. talk show callers) that ‘the Mariners don’t want to win’
100… but we all know that Bavasi would trade Bedard for a few Bags o’ Crap. The man is incompetent when it comes to making trades. Would we get anything like the talent we gave up for him?
Wow. Just when you think the suck can’t get any sucky, it does. Amazing.
I really feel for the young guys, trapped in the black hole that is The Seattle Mariners organization
more sucky, that is
would those be Irwin Mainway Bags o’ Crap? ’cause those could go for at least $1.98
Bedard is a front-line pitcher. He ought to at least be worth two or three Bags o’ Glass.
105… I was thinking the Woot.com Bags o’ Crap. Except Bavasi will probably not remember to order THREE items to go with his bag.
The M’s are 24-44, and at this rate they’ll go 57-105.
That’s the good news.
After 21 games, the M’s were 11-10. Since then, they’ve gone 13-34. If they keep up that pace for the rest of the year, they’ll end up at 50-112.
This could very well be the worst Mariners team of all time. But, we’re not giving up!
So maybe management should be talking about getting to .400 before they talk about getting to .500.
Do-over please.
Anyone else listen to the post game and hear Tom Hudler and Shannon Dreyer talking about how there are no impact position players in the minors?
I mean, after all, Clement proved during his 15 game call up that he clearly cannot be a major league player. Right?
God. Everyone is NOT Jay Bruce.
112-
I’m glad I didn’t listen.
Yeah I love how Clement is being judged on his 48 AB’s. So wonderful the way this organization thinks.
FO ” Lets move Reed to first Base”
USSM ” Um, why?”
FO ” Because we feel with Ibanez in LF, Reed isn’t going to get enough playing time out there”
USSM *Walks Away*
As for impact players. Yeah Clement is about the only one near being ready. Tui still needs another year, Halman, Truinfel, Aumont, Mangini, Saunders and Ramirez are all not even close.
My bathroom reading is the 2008 Baseball Prospectus. One thing you find in just browsing through it is the number of blocked major league prospects who can help a club like the Mariners. For example, the Todd Helton contract has created a traffic jam in Colorado for corner outfielders who would be fine DH/1B candidates but will never get those jobs because of Helton. Last year, when Piazza got injured, Jack Cust was an A within minutes; we had squandered two players and tons of dough on Turbo, whose performance was worse than Cust’s, plus the difference in salaries was huge. There are players available for a song (definition of “song”: a helluva lot less than Asdrubel Cabrera), and the M’s have a surfeit of hard-throwing relief candidates and middle infield candidates. You’d think someone might package some of them for a major league ready young slugger with no job in his organization.
Unfortunately, I wouldn’t leave to Jay Buhner’s double the task of finding the next Jay Buhner. He’d trade Felix and Truinfel for him and end up giving Todd Helton a three-year extension.
Me, sadly, though I didn’t quite get to $100 on food; $17 went to a hat.
What a totally frustrating game all over the place. SafeCo Fans suck ass. Bedard was striking out quite a few people, and I was the only one trying to get the claps going. I failed miserably several times and just quit.
I heckled Vidro several times. The first time I just shouted “retire”. The second time I yelled “BATTING THIRD, YOUR DESIGNATED SUPPOSED HITTER, JOSE VIDRO”… then he hit the home run. A fan a few seats down looked at me, then yelled “HEY RAUL, YOU SUCK TOO!”. I guess he figured calling someone out was beneficial.
Beltre’s bomb was known immediately by the fans. Everything about that was cool.
The fans pathetically tried to start the wave while the game was tied 2-2. An inning after the Batista home run, nobody was interested in the game anymore and the thing was in full effect.
John McLaren is ridiculously stupid. Not that I wanted Arthur to remain in there or anything, but pulling him after Sexson screwed up a pickoff move is pretty dumb. He’d already gotten two outs and had thrown a ball to the next batter. Instead of letting him finish the inning, here comes Sean Green for more arm straining work. Is Roy Corcoran dead?
Sexson was murdered by the fanbase. They weren’t really on him hard until the strikeout in the 6th. After that, they were on him for everything. They booed him during the botched pickoff move. They booed him when he was throwing the ball around the infield inbetween innings. Etc. He’s the most hated man in SafeCo.
I don’t know how many times I screamed for Jeremy Reed to pinch hit. Lot of good it did me.
Did Yuni’s defensive play look as cool on TV as it did in person? Did Yuni’s complete failure of a sac bunt attempt look as bad on TV as it did in person?
Sucks having to watch a loss, but this wasn’t even an entertaining loss aside from King Awesome going yard.
Odd as it may seem, I have no compunction about going to Safeco. Indeed, I’ll be damned if I let their incompetence deprive me of my right to attend major league baseball games. No city has fought harder and longer to maintain its major league team. We lost one after a year and suffered through the Danny Kaye years, the George Argyros years, the Jeff Smulyan escapade (where MLB blamed the county for Smulyan’s personal financial woes, as though we were responsible for the severe drop in value of Indiana radio stations) and the extortion by current ownership. That the current stewards of the public trust for the sole major league franchise in the Northwest are incompetent boobs doesn’t allow them to deprive me of the right to enjoy a game.
And heck, everytime I’ve had a designated goat to boo (I’m talking to you, Dan Wilson of the 21st century), he’s usually come through in the clutch. So assume Vidro and Cairo will have big days tomorrow, cause I’ll be there in Section 127.