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		<title>By: isismajor</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/17/potential-gm-candidates-a-gigantic-post/comment-page-2/#comment-302016</link>
		<dc:creator>isismajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t it been rumored that Beane will possibly go off to GM/rebuild a soccer team (while still helping out with the A&#039;s) with Forst taking over as the primary head honcho?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t it been rumored that Beane will possibly go off to GM/rebuild a soccer team (while still helping out with the A&#8217;s) with Forst taking over as the primary head honcho?</p>
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		<title>By: VictorB</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/17/potential-gm-candidates-a-gigantic-post/comment-page-2/#comment-283000</link>
		<dc:creator>VictorB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the White Sox Assistant?  I recall him being considered along side Antonetti for both Pittsburgh (who passed on LaCava, Bernazard, and Zdjurnchek) and St. Louis last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the White Sox Assistant?  I recall him being considered along side Antonetti for both Pittsburgh (who passed on LaCava, Bernazard, and Zdjurnchek) and St. Louis last year.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/17/potential-gm-candidates-a-gigantic-post/comment-page-2/#comment-282964</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you want to live in the world described in Idiocracy, go right ahead.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What? You mean the one Shakespeare lives in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you want to live in the world described in Idiocracy, go right ahead.</p></blockquote>
<p>What? You mean the one Shakespeare lives in?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/17/potential-gm-candidates-a-gigantic-post/comment-page-2/#comment-282951</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;‘they’ as a third person singular is the wave of the future. Those who resist will drown under the tides of history!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you want to live in the world described in Idiocracy, go right ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>‘they’ as a third person singular is the wave of the future. Those who resist will drown under the tides of history!</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want to live in the world described in Idiocracy, go right ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed4GG</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/06/17/potential-gm-candidates-a-gigantic-post/comment-page-2/#comment-282896</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed4GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that Terry Ryan is a special assistant, but is there a possibility that he could be interviewed for this job?  Looking at what he has done with a smaller payroll I would like to see what he could do with a big payroll.  DMZ or Dave do you think he would be a good fit for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Terry Ryan is a special assistant, but is there a possibility that he could be interviewed for this job?  Looking at what he has done with a smaller payroll I would like to see what he could do with a big payroll.  DMZ or Dave do you think he would be a good fit for us?</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically I hunger for the Ms to move in the direction of &quot;new school&quot;. In other words, I want to see them embrace sabermetrics fully (and competently) while emphasizing the need to blend stats and scouts in order to create an organisation that forms a cohesive, consistent whole from rookie ball to Safeco. Scouts aren&#039;t marginalized but rather their efforts are made more efficacious. &lt;strong&gt;I want to be proud of this organization and I long to be able to brag about the way they lead/innovate their industry.&lt;/strong&gt; 

That said, here&#039;s my initial knee jerk  short list:

I&#039;d want Antonetti (radical change in the right direction). I&#039;d be perfectly happy to get Towers (he&#039;s probably the best fit for the Ms &quot;culture&quot;). I&#039;d &quot;settle&quot; for Depodesta (I think his hiring might be more analogous to drafting tools that project-in other words, philosophical he fits the mold for what I think the Ms FO needs but I&#039;m not sure if it will translate).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically I hunger for the Ms to move in the direction of &#8220;new school&#8221;. In other words, I want to see them embrace sabermetrics fully (and competently) while emphasizing the need to blend stats and scouts in order to create an organisation that forms a cohesive, consistent whole from rookie ball to Safeco. Scouts aren&#8217;t marginalized but rather their efforts are made more efficacious. <strong>I want to be proud of this organization and I long to be able to brag about the way they lead/innovate their industry.</strong> </p>
<p>That said, here&#8217;s my initial knee jerk  short list:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d want Antonetti (radical change in the right direction). I&#8217;d be perfectly happy to get Towers (he&#8217;s probably the best fit for the Ms &#8220;culture&#8221;). I&#8217;d &#8220;settle&#8221; for Depodesta (I think his hiring might be more analogous to drafting tools that project-in other words, philosophical he fits the mold for what I think the Ms FO needs but I&#8217;m not sure if it will translate).</p>
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		<title>By: pgreyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pgreyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Even if the next GM is going to be “the guy (or gal) who traded Ichiro” that is probably more an issue with their relationship with ownership than the fans (who do not cheer Ichiro the way they cheered Griffey or Edgar).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Has our self-hatred really come to this?&lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t think the fans have soured on Ichiro...and it&#039;s still quite clear that Ichiro is still the favorite player of the majority of the fans who come to the game.

If there&#039;s any truth to what you&#039;re suggesting, it might be because Ichiro&#039;s game does not lend itself to the types of cheers that perhaps Edgar and Jr. may have generated--as Ichiro is rarely the guy about to hit the walk-off home run to win the game...and there&#039;s a difference between a diving catch (more likely in Jr.&#039;s salad days) and a strong throw (which is Ichiro&#039;s trademark).

But to think that this fan base would be any less shell-shocked if M&#039;s management chose to unload Ichiro than it would have had Edgar been traded, or if the M&#039;s had traded Jr. without the implied promise of keeping A-Rod (which was a sold to us, at the time, as the sugar to wash down the bitter medicine of losing Jr.)...I just think that&#039;s a bitterness unreflected in reality.

This year has been difficult for anyone who bought into the idea that our expectations for this season should have been as high as they are...and perhaps, in that desperation, you think that anything can happen...but I truly think any GM coming in to this situation is likely to regard Ichiro, Felix and possibly Morrow as the untouchables on the roster.

...and the ONLY untouchables on the roster.

And I think the fans, other than those on the Times blogs who champion WFB, would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Even if the next GM is going to be “the guy (or gal) who traded Ichiro” that is probably more an issue with their relationship with ownership than the fans (who do not cheer Ichiro the way they cheered Griffey or Edgar).</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Has our self-hatred really come to this?</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the fans have soured on Ichiro&#8230;and it&#8217;s still quite clear that Ichiro is still the favorite player of the majority of the fans who come to the game.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s any truth to what you&#8217;re suggesting, it might be because Ichiro&#8217;s game does not lend itself to the types of cheers that perhaps Edgar and Jr. may have generated&#8211;as Ichiro is rarely the guy about to hit the walk-off home run to win the game&#8230;and there&#8217;s a difference between a diving catch (more likely in Jr.&#8217;s salad days) and a strong throw (which is Ichiro&#8217;s trademark).</p>
<p>But to think that this fan base would be any less shell-shocked if M&#8217;s management chose to unload Ichiro than it would have had Edgar been traded, or if the M&#8217;s had traded Jr. without the implied promise of keeping A-Rod (which was a sold to us, at the time, as the sugar to wash down the bitter medicine of losing Jr.)&#8230;I just think that&#8217;s a bitterness unreflected in reality.</p>
<p>This year has been difficult for anyone who bought into the idea that our expectations for this season should have been as high as they are&#8230;and perhaps, in that desperation, you think that anything can happen&#8230;but I truly think any GM coming in to this situation is likely to regard Ichiro, Felix and possibly Morrow as the untouchables on the roster.</p>
<p>&#8230;and the ONLY untouchables on the roster.</p>
<p>And I think the fans, other than those on the Times blogs who champion WFB, would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just really, really want to see the drive-by USSM posters trying and failing to spell Zduriencik for the next decade or so. You&#039;d probably have to add it as one of the wordpress buttons or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just really, really want to see the drive-by USSM posters trying and failing to spell Zduriencik for the next decade or so. You&#8217;d probably have to add it as one of the wordpress buttons or something.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Was it meant to be Lincoln and Armstrong?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Chuck and Armstrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Was it meant to be Lincoln and Armstrong?</p></blockquote>
<p>Chuck and Armstrong</p>
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		<title>By: thefin190</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefin190</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“suitable for Lincoln and Howard” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was it meant to be Lincoln and Armstrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“suitable for Lincoln and Howard” </p></blockquote>
<p>Was it meant to be Lincoln and Armstrong?</p>
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