Game 82, Blue Jays at Mariners
DMZ · June 30, 2008 at 5:10 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
Halladay vs Dickey. 7:10.
It’ll be interesting to see what Riggleman does with his lineup now that they’re back home. The road trip was a mixed bag but overall a decided improvement on McLaren. Here’s hoping Riggleman continues to put out serviceable units on the field..
No clubhouse chemistry forecast yet: you’d think that the San Diego sweep would energize the team and bring everyone together towards a shared purpose, but who can say? Only the experts, the experts tell us, and unfortunately, they’re not talking.
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Here’s hoping that Dickey’s knuckleball shuts down Toronto’s anemic offense and that we don’t somehow manage to score negative runs against Halladay.
As Yogi would say–50% of chemistry is 75% overated or something like that. Has anyone heard any news on what’s going on with the signing of the M’s first two picks Josh Fields and Dennis Raben?
Hey, 1st post here. Does anyone know where to find the home starting line-ups as early as possible?
I have heard the KJR guy report it from safeco as early as 4:00, but it’s hit and miss, and honestly I
don’t listen too often this time of day. Thanks in advance for your help
Should be a nice night for Halladay. I enjoy watching him pitch. Hopefully Riggleman doesn’t just fold with his lineup card.
Hey Danno: couple of ways if you’re looking for internet sources. Look for the PI/Times blogs, which sometimes post the day’s lineups way early.
Then look to the scoreboards of ESPN/Yahoo, which sometimes post ~1h early (and frequently don’t). Then MLB Gameday, usually later than them.
Tonight’s lineup:
Ichiro! RF
Lopez 2B
Ibanez LF
Beltre 3B
Reed CF
Richie 1B
Clement DH
Johjima C
WFB SS
[dupe, also, getting Ichiro's name wrong]
Excuse me Suzuki
6 –
That can’t be right. It… it makes too much sense. Something’s afoot.
It’s a trap!
A hope trap!
Willie gets credit for a game played yesterday bringing him within 21 of Greg Gross. Batting 9th against Halladay should be a bad match up for him:
079 – Consecutive games without an XBH
150 – Consecutive at bats without an XBH
172 – Consecutive PAs without an XBH
081 – 2008 season ABs with no XBH
096 – 2008 season PAs with no XBH
Unofficial records:
100 – Consecutive games without an XBH – Greg Gross
223 – Consecutive at bats without an XBH – Jose Valdivielso
266 – Consecutive PAs without an XBH – Larry Lintz
124 – Full season ABs with no XBH – Dwain Anderson
144 – Full season PAs with no XBH – Dwain Anderson
I was looking at Ichiro’s numbers today, and while I knew he’d been stealing more, I hadn’t realized just how much more, and how well. 33 for 35! He’s arguably having his best base-stealing year ever — he went 45 for 47 in 2006, and when he stole 56 in his rookie season he was caught 14 times — and I wonder how many base stealers have had their best year on the bases at the age of 34.
I also noticed that Adam Jones batted .330 and slugged .447 in June, which might explain why there’ve been fewer “Adam Jones sucks” comments recently.
Here’s how the starters are against Halladay career:
Ichiro! 8/30
Lopez 2/9
Ibanez 7/26
Beltre 4/16
Reed 0/0
Sexson 3/16, 5Ks (baffled it’s not more)
Clement 0/0
Johjima 5/12
WFB 1/2
Starters have a 30/111 = .270 BA against Roy.
However, I don’t get why Yuni’s on the bench (4/12, 3 RBI against Halladay). I would you give him a night later in the series against guys he can’t hit (Litsch 0/4, McGowan 1/9).
Yeah, I never got the “Adam Jones Sucks” comments. Clearly, “Adam Jones is young, and needs to adjust to MLB.”
As for that lineup…I mean…yeah, that’s kind of how we should have it. Now if we can get these lineups with Felix or Bedard pitching…holy crap! We could “Win” games.
Good luck Dickey. Doc Halladay’s pretty good.
Maybe Yuni’s benched because with Dickey batting they’re worried about fielding? Is WFB a step up from Yuni 2008? I don’t know.
Haha, Dickey pitching.
I mean I would give Yuni a night off later in the series, although I love watching WFB go for his records. If you can really call them that without smirking.
According to Baker’s Blog he’s had a rough dental visit today.
No Turbo. Sometimes you need a professional hitter on the bench, eh?
I bet he even sits on the bench like a professional.
Yuni out tonight due to… “dental issues”? Perhaps he’s been grinding his teeth too much over the article in the new issue of Vanity Fair where he’s… ahem… “featured.”
Honestly, if Sweet Lou was still here, “dental issues” would be too vague for a columnnist; fans would be saying “what if Lou punched him in the face??”
After each at bat walks back to the bench to sit down like a professional like a professional.
If you told me that the manager had just punched one of the players in the face this season, my reaction wouldn’t be disbelief, it’d be “Which player?”
Re the lineup tonight:
“A Hope Trap”… nice one, scraps.
That’d be a good movie title, actually.
Even if they were in Cleveland?
Sexson 3/16, 5Ks
Great and Sexson will probably sit against Litsch when he is hitting 3/5 against Litsch.
A Horacio Ramirez sighting in Baltimore pitching for KC.
I don’t think anyone will get punched in the face. I do think there is a distinct possibility that Silva will eat one of the smaller members of the team.
Don’t we all understand that batter-pitcher matchups are meaningless? Are we really making decisions based on 20 AB sample sizes?
30- beat me to it. Never thought I’d see such a batter-pitcher matchup discussion on this forum really.
If you told me that the manager had just punched one of the players in the face this season, my reaction wouldn’t be disbelief, it’d be “Which player?”
“Just one?”
Sounds like there are a few Bluejay fans.
I don’t think anyone will get punched in the face. I do think there is a distinct possibility that Silva will eat one of the smaller members of the team.
That honor now goes to Roy Corcoran (5′10″, 170lbs)
“Git in mah belly!”
Bloomination!!
Did they have a celebration for Willie Bloomquist on June 16th?
30 and 31
I could see a batter/pitcher matchup being useful, but really only when you are talking about guys in the same division where they see each other a lot more often. If there are 35-40 ABs, I think you could start making some changes based on that.
Sexson will live down to those matchup averages.
36 – I’ll be curious to see how many people get that
If only his first name was Leopold…
does this count? from Andriesen:
“The Mariners still have plenty of weaknesses — one glance at the standings makes that perfectly clear — but smiles have returned to the Mariners clubhouse for the first time in months. That’s a start. If only they could play the Padres every day.”
if he doesn’t watch out, he’ll meet McLaren’s lofty preseason expectations.
Slaughter Roy Corcoran would fight like the devil to keep from being engulfed & devoured.
Kyle Lohse now 10-2 for the Cardinals. Regardless of the value of “wins” as a measure, how many Mariner pitchers have even pitched in ten victories this year?
42
I’d guess Putz and Morrow…
I’ve been entertained by the rumoring that both NY teams might be interested in Raul.
He’s a fine fellow and all, but I want Raul off the big banner next to Ichiro. He just doesn’t belong there.
Is it me or does it sound like there’s about five times as many Blue Jays fans present as Mariners fans? Ichiro’s swing and a miss just got some lusty cheering…
38 – I hope you see that small sample sizes are useless now.
I would like to see Clement take Halladay yard.
Seems like there’s always a fair contingent of Jays fans at the Safe.
Good to hear Niehaus lobbying for more Clement in the lineup – regardless of his avg.
47 – I’ll concede if Lockwood gets another hit in the game, or even goes without a strikeout for the rest of the night.
Forgive me for being an Ontario-based Jays fan that follows the Mariners because of Dave and DMZ, but why is Ichiro! playing so much RF lately?
Sims just called Eckstein, who is 33 years old, a kid. I know he looks like a kid, but come on.
That fan has better range than Raul!
51 (ironic number you got there): management decided to put him back into RF for the rest of the year and “audition” players at CF.
Looks like we have ourselves a pitching duel.
54: Crazy. Probably stupid, but the Jays are busy playing their best CF in right, too, so it’s not uncommon…
Go for a double Willie!
Larry Stone has always been of my favorites because of likes like these in todays game blog.
So Bloomquist and Sexson have our two hits… what the ****?
46- there are probably a lot more Mariner fans–they just aren’t as drunk as the Canadians.
Betancourt had a tooth pulled yesterday so WFB is playing for him.
edgar for mayor:
Willie could have all of his teeth pulled and he would still be in the lineup.
58 – it’s funny ’cause it’s true.
Wait a second, The Feed (RRS) is starting tomorrow? What next? Stretching out Morrow? This team has lost all meaning.
The Feed? Where did that nickname come from?
the nerd in me just threw it out there.
A mistaken reference to RSS I would guess…
plus I was thinking RSS instead of RRS. It’s been a long day.
Figured as much, that is hilarious.
Willie Bloomquist Singles Night.
it’s these mariners. They’re messing with my head, keeping scores low, getting hits, and not losing. I don’t trust my thoughts anymore
Is RRS the last of the great Australian Hopes (Doyle and Blackley being the others)?
Wow, Reed almost bought a ticket to Tacoma
That is going to be the defining moment of Ichiro’s decline. Mark my words.
Eckstein can get a double, Bloomquist can’t.
Eckstein > Bloomquist
74- Like 5+ years from now, right?
I don’t really see why. If anything, that dodge might be the defining moment on his resume for his retirement from baseball to join cirque de soleil.
Scrappy-dappy-doooooo!
Do you think anyone found a pot of gold at the end of Reed’s throw?
Ooh, let’s play a fun game of “who can attempt to throw out a runner worse”
Well, that’s all the Bluejays need in order to win this game.
76: oh yes. It won’t matter. People will want to search for “when Ichiro finally started losing it” and point to Reed intercepting a ball that “Ichiro would in years past caught without breaking a sweat.”
Ichiro doesn’t sweat. Earth just tries to cool him off.
My friend just called me after Reeds throw and the only words spoken were “RAINBOW”…followed by dial tone.
75- funny I was just thinking about that comparison.
Clement has been the victim of 2 very, very nasty 2 strike pitches. Poor guy, hopefully we don’t send him down for striking out looking twice.
That’s what you get for wearing a pink hat…..no souvenir for you.
WOW, Lyle Overbay is from Centralia? RIGHT HERE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST? Why didn’t anyone tell me? We have a genuine hometown boy here tonight, fellows! Mac ‘n Jacks all around!
Moose Knuckle Rally Ball Time.
Trouble Brewing should replace Mojo Rising.
Rolen was out.
Batman’s gonna be good
Yes it is.
Wall-E was really good. That and Batman are the two I’ve really wanted to see this summer.
Roy Halladay is worth every penny of his contract
Why is RRS startign tomorrow – given the situation doesn’t it make a lot of sense to start trying to stretch out morrow?
Or are they really that concerned about keeping the “closer” role filled until Putz is back?
There’s your nightly maple-bats-are-evil comment.
apunetid:
I don’t think everyone would be so scared if they were injected with maple syrup. When they explode it would be sweet, not evil.
tee hee
Dickey rocks, he is one of the few bright spots this year as an M’s fan.
Is it in the FSN contract that they have to spend at least 45 minutes every game showing kids in the stands? I mean, we get it, the kids are having a good time, but I don’t think we need to see a kid every game eating an entire thing of cotton candy……with commentary.
I tuned in to see a baseball game.
I think Riggleman should throw Dickey back-to-back games just for the hell of it. He’s more entertaining to watch than Batista or RRS.
They don’t stop at just cotton candy, oh no, we needed rally fries! I would prefer a Rally get Halladay out of the game Fry but you get what you can take I guess.
fine Halladay-esque moment
The bats, oh noes!!
97: I don’t think Selig would care for that. Wait, maybe he would, because the syrup in the bats would of course be sponsored by some syrup company, meaning more sponsor money.
Beltre obviously doesn’t have the literally-maple brand.
wonder if it the local director, or a request from the Ms– as pretty much every other area’s FSN broadcast seems to focus on pulchritude.
103-was that a 2- or a 4-seam veggie in the commercial?
Did Richie just ask Halladay for time? What has he done to deserve that? I’d have thrown the pitch.
make up call at third ….i am in shock that richie hit the ball
msb wins comment of the day for use of the word “pulchritude”
hey! is any one but Willie allowed to show ‘hustle’?
50 – Are you conceding now?
Jeremy Reed=The New Grit
Pull the trigger Clement. Swing away. It’s ok, you’re still awesome in my book.
msb
I haven’t had to bust out the old dictionary in a long time, great comment.
Big Dick’s AB was already ruined by that horrid ’swing’ for strike 2. So much for his priors though.
so was that really strike three?
I thought so…tough pitch to hit though.
Mariners, Funk Blast
Jack In The Box, Funk
Vern Fonk, We’ve got the Fonk.
I’m getting a little tired of the funk.
Tracer says strike 3. HELL of a pitch. I can already see the strikeout montage that SportsCenter is putting together of Clement looking three times…
That inning hurt my soul
119… it could be much worse, they could bring back “Abba.”
nevermind
120: Um, except, why would ESPN waste that much time on the Mariners/Blue Jays? The most we’ll get is a box score…
ahem.
I think Jeff needs to enjoy his enjoyment more.
Department of redundancy department.
Griffey hit a walkoff bomb. Good for him.
there you go, a change of images– it’s Jays fans drinking beer.
how ever did MLB miss that obvious “MammaMia” tie-in opportunity?
so I’m guessing maybe that the surge of that last road trip wasn’t so much the glory that is Riggleman, but more the sadness that is the cellar of the NL.
do you have to be A Professional Hitter to ‘hit the ball with authority’?
There is a special badge you have to carry
Can you hit the ball with authority 5 times and get a single every time?
112 – It must be due to Roy getting hit on the head, but I’ll concede.
Halladay vs Dickey.
I had no idea there was such a simple way to renew my love of baseball that the Mariners have been sucking dry. Knuckleballs and general pitcher domination. Be better if the Mariners won, but definitely not essential this season.
131: The better question is what happens to those that don’t swing with authority. Is WFB anarchy with a bat?
Can’t they just say RRS gets the start? They have to insist “all available bullpen arms” will be used like every other Mariner pitcher throws complete games all the time. They need to put that under all the starters besides Felix.
What exactly did Willie do on that double play?
Anyone watching sportscenter? they just showed highlights of the current playing mariners game and they probably got everyones name wrong that they did a highlight of, it was really sad. called clement, lopez to start it lol.
Ummm… Why did gameday decide to put up a higlight video of Johjima hitting a routine groundball to Eckstein? Has this game really had so little highlights?
Domination by Halladay…a thing of beauty if you are rooting for the Jays.
or if he’s on your fantasy team. I’ll take it.
haha, complete game, 4 hitter. For sure.
He is on my fantasy team, but I’m not so happy… But this game went about how I expected. I guess they scored less than I would have thought. And Sexson got two more hits than I thought he would.
133 Agreed. Fabulous game. And between last place teams.
Once again – so much depends on who’s pitching that day.
Well, at lest we didn’t score negative runs like I was expecting.
Dammit. I wish to hell Sexson would stop getting his occasional crap singles so we can finally release him already. I was sure he and Vidro would be gone as soon as the plane touched back down in Seattle yesterday.
I’m not letting “The Feed” nickname slip away from RRS… that is too awesome – we have to find a way to use that! Come on guys, what else are we going to do anyway?