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Game 87, Tigers at Mariners
DMZ · July 5, 2008 at 6:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Galarraga v Dickey.
I have to admit that when I first saw this matchup on the probable pitcher listing I wondered for just an instant if Andres Galarraga had made yet another comeback, this time as a pitcher. The Big Cat would only be 47, after all.
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Is it sac-religious to bet AGAINST the Mariners? I feel like it’s the only sick joy I can get out of this season. And hey, when they win, I feel like it’s not so bad… almost better than betting they win and having them lose. Anyway, I never bet more than $20 on a ’sure thing’. This game I’ve got $10 against the team that’s lost at sea.
Wonder if Armando is the Big Cat’s kid? Just kidding.
Actually, I think Armando Galarraga was the guy the Tigers called up to replace Dontrelle Willis at the start of the year…before the D-Trail derailed himself all the way back down to Class-A Lakeland. Funny how you can get more mileage out of those rookies making the major-league minimum sometimes than you can out of the big stud superstars you paid millions of bucks to get.
BTW, speaking of mileage, Derek, that Chrysler cartoon is great satire!
yeah, great cartoon!
To be sac-religious, I think you would have to be betting on the River Cats to beat the Mariners as part of some ritual or other dedicated to the glory of Sacramento, ancient God of Dull Towns and Missed Answers to State Geography Quizzes.
But that would be difficult. Even though the M’s frequently play like a triple-A club, they don’t actually play triple-A clubs very often.
I meant to say “D-Train” rather than D-Trail, but in any event, Willis’ career has pretty much derailed, anyway.
Sounds like they are going to interview the new Mariner defense against the dark arts instructor on FSN. Coming up after the commercial.
Jose Vidro, your cleanup hitter.
Great cartoon…I remember hearing the comedian Patton Oswalt talk about if you bought a Humvee, you’d get hit on the back of the head with a sack of quaarters and have to go to Iraq and get your own oil to run it.
Very good stuff.
Whoever the M’s hitting coach is these days said something like “they’ve been controlling the strike zone,” meaning drawing more walks since RIggleman came in. I checked it out…
Pre-June 20th: 2.8 walks/game
Post-June 20th: 3.2 walks/game
Which projects to about 64 more walks over the course of 162 games.
However… take out the one game where Randy Wolf and the Padres gave the M’s 9 free passes, and they have averaged… 2.8 walks/game.
Make of that what you will… Oh, and Yuni has 1 walk since June 20th.
That catch reminded me of Rex Hudler…who used to slow up a little so he could make a diving catch. Reed certainly didn’t need to jump in to the wall to catch that one.
Really not liking these “Salute American Veterans With This $30 Lid” caps they’re wearing tonight. For one thing, they’re the wrong color blue.
For another, Paul Lukas, the Uni Watch guy, asked them how much of the sales of these hats was actually going to veterans (as MLB sweared would be done) and he got a lot of nasty statements from MLB and the hat company with lots of HOW DARE YOU SIR.
Major League Sports: You gotta love the corruption.
Vidrooooooooooooooo they’re batting you fourth yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
Damn the game is not on TV here today..guess I’ll have to watch it online…
Go M’s!
That was a nice catch by Reed to end the top half of the first.
Jeremy Reed: Making the mundane look incredible.
I’m looking for that Uni Watch post right now, btw.
I thought it was my TV. Blegh.
what’s the deal with Cabrera? He’s on my fantasy team- I can’t drop him- he can’t hit- and now he can’t play defense? I’m glad Ichiro’s on first and all, but…
oooh la la, that’s a spicy post
“primarily played for the Braves,” Dave? The Big Cat won a frikkin’ batting title in Colorado. He’s the Rockies’ Alvin Davis.
odds on Ichiro stealing 2nd?
wait, no, still haven’t found the letter one
I’m trying to distract myself from Vidro’s at-bat
Why walk when you can make an out?
now I’ll revise my post to
‘odds on Ichiro GETTING to 2nd?’
the one thing I remember from watching the World Baseball Classic, was how well the Asian teams moved runners around the bases. They’ll trade an out to move a runner any day. Two hits in an inning almost ALWAYS resulted in a run or two.
Vidrooooooooooooooo they’re batting you fourth yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
Good grief, did Riggleman lose a bet or something? Seriously, do any of the reporters ask him, ‘why’? F*** it, I’m gonna call into the post game show from here in Denver and ask. If I were Riggleman I think at this point I pull a ‘Billy Martin’ and write some names on a paper, cut them up and put them in hat.
Dave started the broadcast at the opening by talking like a Pirate in reference to the tall ships that are in Puget Sound this week.
It was rather unexpected, and I’m not sure I ever want to hear that again…
Did I miss anything? I nodded off between pitches. Just throw the ball- it is Jose goddamned Vidro, not a major league hitter.
Seriously, do any of the reporters ask him, ‘why’?
No. But then again, where are our chemistry pre-game reports?
Can someone explain to me why the Baconator is still on this team?
I can’t find a Uni Watch post involving a letter. Help an author out here.
Hey DMZ, second part of this post is about the Welcome Back Veterans presser.
Holy crap those M’s caps are ugly as all get out.
Yet another slow groundout. I guess that is what professional cleanup hitters do?
I’m embarrassed. I’ve been a baseball fan since the 1960’s, and I never knew that before. Boy do I feel dumb.
I must say I like the 4th of July edition caps the M’s are wearing. Happy 4th of July weekend to all you Americans…Just to be different we Canadians celebrate on the 1st…I guess it’s so we can have first dibs on all the good fireworks…
And here I thought that was only possible when either Vicente Padilla or Steve Trachsel was on the mound.
This modern baseball learning at the feet of the Mariner braintrust is mind boggling.
Tell me again how sheep bladders can be used to predict the weather.
Uni Watch rules.
Professional is a synonym for slow (with positive connotation, mind you).
Derek, you need to drink one of these to do that. I bought one on the recommendation of a really cool bartender here in Denver. There’s a whole line. Awesome ass-kicking stuff.
Uni Watch rules.
Is it still on ESPN.com? If so, than it’s the last good thing (sans Mr. Neyer) left on there.
It’s a good thing Willie isn’t playing tonight. Proof that Riggleman is aware of the streak.
If he had played, the potential for him getting an extra base hit on SINGLES NIGHT would just be astronomical.
35: Thanks, BillyJive…and happy belated Canada Day to you as well! Still have never gotten up to Van City to catch the C-Day fireworks show, but friends have told me it’s awesome.
OK, this might distract you.
There’s a guy in Bend, Oregon who has been trying to use a lawn chair and helium baloons to fly to McCall, Idaho.
He just made it to Idaho.
This is just goofy on so many levels.
33- They’re not as bad as the ones the Blue Jays are wearing for Canada Day..Those are some ugly caps…
Hey, Vidro! See what Reed did? It’s OK to hit the ball in the air once in awhile!
Vidro didn’t hear you. He and Silva are sharing a juicy cheesburger…
Hey, Silva is going to be on UFC!!!
Oh, wait…
44: That is absolutely insane…the Hindenburg can’t make it from Germany to New Jersey in one piece, yet this crazy fool can fly all the way to Idaho using party balloons?!
Too funny!
yet this crazy fool can fly all the way to Idaho using party balloons?!
The humanity!! Oh, wait…
Vidro didn’t hear you. He and Silva are sharing a juicy cheesburger…
Oh, the humanity!!
If I ever get the money, I’m going to order a ‘55 Tulsa Oilers jersey from Ebbets Field. My dad was 8 that year, and mom has his “Knothole Gang” card from that season. ($10 for any kid under 12 to sit in the LF stands for the whole year.)
It’s odd, though, because the Oilers wore red during the 1950s. They were the Yankees’ AA affiliate for a few years in the early 50s, but other than that they were the Cards AA and AAA affiliate from the 1940s to the mid-70s.
More stranded baserunners? Gee, where have we seen this before?
I wondered what Corco was up to lately.
Heh I was thinking the same thing.
*sigh* well he almost walked…
If he hadn’t swung at the one that almost hit him in the foot….
If I ever get the money, I’m going to order a ‘55 Tulsa Oilers jersey from Ebbets Field
That’s awesome. Minor league baseball is the best. Which is a good thing, since we’re all rooting for one right now.
Nice quick inning there, RA!
A rare nice defensive play by Lopez…
Ebbets Field Flannels has some awesome stuff. Not sure if they’re strictly online only these days or not, but that was always a fun store to walk through.
I wish having 2 on with no outs for the middle of our lineup was a good thing.
Did Lopez actually just walk or is it one of those weird gameday glitches?
Late Web Gem by Ibanez! LOL.
He walked on 4 pitches.
I feel a double play coming
WHHYYYY VIDRO WHHYYYYYYY
Vidro doing his job.
A classic Vidro at bat.
See what he did there? He stayed out of the double play by hitting a tapper to the pitcher. That’s Professional Hitting.™
I would rather have Richie batting cleanup and DHing than Vidro doing it. There. I said it.
On to better news Padres won! That should put us in 1st for last place.
I thought it was a GIDP with Lopez reaching second on a fielder’s choice/indifference.
The official scorer scored that inning as offensive indifference.
The Mariner motto for this season:
Two on, none out, so what?
The 2008 Seattle Mariners: Two On, So What?!
Wow, Ichiro’s stolen base this inning was worth .24 BRAA all by itself.
Tie goes to Paul B!
2008 Mariners: MoJo Uh No
Jinx!
Oh, man, Blowers’ logic. My brain! It hurts!
In other news…the Indians sign Jeff WeaverGuess the can go ahead and trade CC now…
Guess the can?
Is that like the Mariner Hat Trick?
Yes, but isn’t that almost like a choice between the electric chair and the firing squad?
I’ll go with one of these, since sometimes we’re more like a semi-pro team.
Scott, you owe Paul a Coke.
Is one of them a democrat and the other a republican?
Hey, the Rockies just won. More good news for us and Mr. SDSU.
Jeff “Spicoli” Weaver? Gah, what is Shapiro thinking?
Aw. Who was bitching about Cabrera earlier?
Is this guy afraid of Sexson? He hasn’t been watching M’s games I guess…
Yuni bunting for a base hit with runners on and two outs? He must want tomorrow off….
If the Indians are desperate for pitching, maybe the M’s can trade Washburn to them.
Yuni bunting for a base hit with runners on and two outs? He must want tomorrow off….
If he wanted the day off, he would have been patient at the plate and gotten a walk.
If the Indians are desperate for pitching, maybe the M’s can trade Washburn to them.
Joke’s on us still. What’d we pay for Spicoli? $8M? Shapiro probably got him for close to, if not the minimum.
The bunt attempt was especially useful after the last batter only lasted one pitch. Nothing like granting the opposing pitcher outs 2 and 3 on two pitches.
Of course, perhaps this is a precursor to them moving Sabathia?? Not that Weaver would be a direct replacement, but that he’d fill in at #5 while everyone else moves up a spot.
The Ms replaced Weaver with Silva for even more money.
yeah, but Silva doesn’t look like a stoned surfer dude, he looks like a stoned doritos eating nintendo playing dude….
Watching an opposing team player get thrown out at home is always one of the funnest things to see in a game - full kudos to both Raul and Clement for a well executed put out.
The Indians are looking for a repeat of the Colon trade/fleecing - more power to them if they pull it off.
[Sims]
And thus began the tradition of rally beer.
The Indians are looking for a repeat of the Colon trade/fleecing - more power to them if they pull it off.
Wow. I thought things like that only happened in prison and on VHS tapes with no labels. Huh.
That’s at least twice that Clement has done a great job blocking the plate so far this year. He seems pretty decent defensively.
WHOA, PAUL RODGERS!!!!!
Um, who?
Did Clement steal Joh’s catcher mask?
jeff weaver has signed with the indians…
cool
That was wierd…
Two on…
Yahhh
GibsonTurbo yahhh!A grounder to first is as good as a bunt!
It’s so sad when your DH hits a grounder to first and your first thought it “Hey, at least it wasn’t a double play”
Boy this seems familiar…
How is Vidro staying out of DPs? A plot for Amazing Stories.
Well, at least the M’s are consistent in that regard…
It’s so sad when your clean up hitting DH hits a grounder to first and your first thought it “Hey, at least it wasn’t a double play”
Fixed that for ya.
On the radio, Dave Niehaus was surprised that the runners were going with a full count on Vidro and only one out.
But Riggleman knew that Vidro would hit it on the ground, and he had them running to stay out of the doubleplay.
OK, here’s the question. If he knew that, why oh why is Vidro hitting cleanup?
One of Seattle’s three real hitters is up with men on!
But 1B is open. Sigh. And not even a walk to show.
If Riggles was stuck in a “Groundhog Day” time loop, he’d keep playing the same lineup over and over again, wouldn’t he?
Geez, Willie would almost do a better job batting cleanup — at least maybe he could get an RBI single while keeping his streak alive.
Sweet! Did Clement throw someone out? I’m only keeping track on fangraphs.
CLEMENT!!!
CLEMENT!!!
My oh my oh my, look at that baseball fly.
OK, I get nice refreshing beverage that time!
Woot.
Clement!!!
Woo Hoo!!!
I was getting a little worried…
If we’re just 1 run down when it becomes a battle of the bullpens … I predict a win, bad as we are our bullpen >> Tigers’ bullpen
…that nothing positive was going to happen during this game? Thank you, Matt.
There’s goes our Jeremy…tryin’ to make Sportscenter again!
well … present pitcher excluded …
Here, I’ll try to make this moment a little more negative…
Past Calendar Year, BB:
Last: Betancourt (10)
2nd to last: Lopez (17)
This comment is hilariously awesome. It sort of speaks to the entire season to this point.
Mariners hitting, “the anti-clutch”
These broken bats are getting ridiculous
Yup — minor league contract according to Niehaus.
Meanwhile, Batista’s last pitch was just clocked at “98″. Wonder if they were using Jamie Moyer’s metric radar gun?
I think they must be making bats out of balsa these days.
CLEMENT^2!
FUNK BLAST!!!
CLEMENTED!!!!
Yep … now it’s a matter of Waiting for Morrow.
Clement!!!
Spending time with the veterans must be helping Clement.
Can we start calling Clement “Pudge” now?!
CLEMENT AGAIN!!!
WOO HOO!!!!
That’s it…Jagerbomb time!!!
Clement. Yes! Rodney had lowered his ERA by ~2 runs - no longer.
fo shiz! this is crrrraaaazy mann
Heh. I had visions of waiting for him to get to the starting rotation…
OK, who what THAT woman?
Now Yuni-san, let me show you.
I think Clement is making definite progress in terms of coming out of his slump. haha…
What do you think we’ll do with Kenji next year? First? DH?
you know, besides the obvious few, we don’t have such a bad team, not great, but not bad
“Morrow Time?” That doesn’t even make sense.
I thought his M.O was to start off slowly in each league he entered…
Is it bad that with each win I am kissing that number one draft pick next year goodbye…
151 - must have been something sims came up with.
Now imagine that… times six. Yeah… he needs to start.
M’s win!!!
chachacha
Games like this are why I keep watching.
Niehaus: “The Mariners come from behind…just like the good old days.”
Indeed!
NIce!! M’s win!!
Is it just me or has this been happening a lot lately?
It feels good!
153: Yep, one of my biggest fears is that the M’s rip off a string of 22 of 30, and not only lose the top draft pick, but end up making Pelekoudas and Riggleman permanent in their positions instead of caretakers….
Clement is going to be GOOD
How about “To-Morrow”?
OMG - Bedard speaks!
165: Lies! what did he have to say?
Like, “See you to-Morrow!”
Fox Sports is doing an exclusive interview with him tomorrow.
I was in too much shock to get the rest of it.
OK. Let us not get carried away here. One one run game doesn’t a good team make. The Ms have 40% of a starting rotation, 33% of a defense/lineup, 0% of a bench and a decent pen. But otherwise they are great.
Nice win.
But..
Is the fact that we ARE now winning the main reason Lee Pelekoudas and Co. continue to tolerate Vidro and Sexson’s horribleness?
‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’.. so to speak?
Correlation IS causation for this crew.
*sigh*
Would it be so bad if Riggleman was the manager on more of a permenant basis?
Not nearly as bad as if they kept Pelekoudas on….I am halfway convinced that he’s part of the problem (though not as much as Armstrong and Lincoln)….More to the point, he probably wouldn’t buck them if Howchuck started messing with baseball decisions…
Jeff Clement: Drafted by Bill Bavasi ™.
Just thought I’d share.
(and I too thought the Big Cat was back when I first tuned in…)
well, postgame, RA Dickey said the Clubhouse Chemistry was real good right now, what with the winning.
the little bit I saw, he was cheerfuly answering the ‘who was your hero growing up’ question.
Pat Hentgen, it turns out.
My guess is it’d have to be an improvement to the mortuary that was under McVasi.
Considering he’s from a town not too far out of Ottawa, that’s not too surprising.
lost my bet
Fun fact for the day:
Vidro’s OPS is now lower than Cairo’s.
In one of the interviews, of RRS, I think, I thought I heard the heresy of: “There’s better communication between the players and the coaches now…”
Hm. Interesting. Remember the criticism of those two unnamed coaches after the Bavasi/McLaren cleaning-out, about the pitchers being more (hm, is the word “dedicated” accurate enough?) interested in winning than the hitters on this team?
Yeah, read it in the newspapers, hitters, that’s how your coaches communicate with you.
One hopes that the level of communication on this Mariners team has progressed beyond that in the past 2 weeks.
several of the players have commented on the improved communication, which is interesting as Mac was the conduit for player communication in his bench coach days …
This is bad…
We are now two games behind the Nationals in the race for last place.
(Well, 2 games ahead really, but you gert mt point.)
Can you imagine this rotation?
Felix
Strasburg
Morrow
Aumont
some other guy
The future is bright.
okay, that one sentence should be
Well, 2 games ahead really, but you get my point.
i heart USS mariner.