Comments on: A brief thought on Ichiro pitching

By: Vlad

Vlad — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:12:40 +0000

If people are so concerned with position players pitching, why do we see that in levels of Little League all the way to college?

If you saw someone wrecking his porsche in a jack ass rally would you do the same with yours? Even though I would let Ichiro pitch one inning cause I do not believe that throwing twenty or thirty times from 60 feet does any damage to your arm, capable of throwing 300 feet, I still understand the concerns of what would one freaking line drive do if it would hit him.

By: KaminaAyato

KaminaAyato — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:54:46 +0000

30 – Those are two seperate issues. The only thing that the M’s being more patient at the plate can affect is the usage of the opponents bullpen. It still doesn’t change the fact that Riggleman blew through his bullpen and was forced to choose between yesterday’s starter and position players. If you think about it, if we had an actual starter on the mound we could have gone an extra inning or two because that starter, instead of RRS, could have gone longer. Or, had he have Batista pitch another inning or two, that would have helped. Of course extending the bullpen even more yesterday means that you’re bullpen is definitely shot today against Oakland.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:26:20 +0000

If people are so concerned with position players pitching, why do we see that in levels of Little League all the way to college?

Maybe because the position players in the Majors are worth millions of dollars?

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:25:05 +0000

I doubt it. The opposition’s ability to insert fresh pitchers in an extra-inning game has nothing to do with whether the Mariners are able to do so. The M’s offensive hackiness is a totally separate issue from their bullpen usage.

You didn’t read what I wrote. The M’s hitting style directly affected their chances to win the game.

If one team runs out of pitchers, and the other team still has valid pitchers left, wouldn’t that put the team without pitchers at a disadvantage?

If the game goes enough innings, each team will run out of pitchers. The Mariner hitting style ensures that they will run out of pitchers first.

By: KaminaAyato

KaminaAyato — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:51:05 +0000

People here already know my opinion on Ichiro pitching, so I won’t bother to repeat it.

If people are so scared because of having position players pitch because of Jose Canseco, I have 2 quick thoughts:

1) It’s Jose Canseco. Enough said.
2) If people are so concerned with position players pitching, why do we see that in levels of Little League all the way to college?

By: Slippery Elmer

Slippery Elmer — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:27:21 +0000

Paul B: And the hacktastic nature of the M’s hitters, as has been pointed out, contributes toward the Mariner problems in a game of this type. The opponent does not need to burn through as many pitchers . . .

I doubt it. The opposition’s ability to insert fresh pitchers in an extra-inning game has nothing to do with whether the Mariners are able to do so. The M’s offensive hackiness is a totally separate issue from their bullpen usage.

By: AssumedName

AssumedName — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:30:45 +0000

If the Ichi-arm had gone to the mound, that game would never have left my DVR.

In the 13th, I said to my (6 year old obsessed M’s fan) son, “If this game keeps going, maybe Ichiro will pitch.”

He kept complaining he had to go to the bathroom, but wouldn’t leave the room (or even countenance me pausing the DVR), just on the chance of Ichiro pitch.

Make it happen, Riggles.

By: Joe C

Joe C — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:13:44 +0000

What is it about Ichiro’s injury history that makes anyone think he could get hurt if he pitched. I know the chance is always there for a pitcher, but has he ever been on the DL?

By: Some Dude

Some Dude — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:05:03 +0000

The real problem here is that our lousy offense only managed to back up 260 pitches with 1 run of support.

Or if you look at it the other way, the Tigers threw 198 pitches to us and we only managed to turn one of them into a run.

Weak sauce.

By: MarcS74

MarcS74 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:19:36 +0000

I think Burke was probably the best choice for the emergency pitcher since we didn’t have anyone left to play outfield, that pretty much took Bloomquist and Ichiro out of the equation.

I think Jiminez was a starter at Tacoma, I believe that is why he could go 4 innings in relief.

How about everyone lays off Bloomquist who has been playing pretty well, I know he hasn’t been getting any precious extra base hits, but he has been playing pretty good defense and getting on base, and beat on Bentancourt for not knowing what the freaking situation was in the 15th and not taking a couple freaking pitches to give Bloomquist a chance to run since that is one of the things he does best and why he is on the team to start with.