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	<title>Comments on: M&#8217;s Jump To KIRO</title>
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		<title>By: Joe C</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/22/ms-jump-to-kiro/comment-page-1/#comment-291767</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And from McGrath:
When I heard that the Mariners had struck a five-year, $5.5 agreement with Cairo, I presumed it was the latest in their long line of insanely generous contracts extended to middle-aged role players. Then I found out it was a radio package with KIRO, not a new contract for Miguel Cairo, who is 34 and ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And from McGrath:<br />
When I heard that the Mariners had struck a five-year, $5.5 agreement with Cairo, I presumed it was the latest in their long line of insanely generous contracts extended to middle-aged role players. Then I found out it was a radio package with KIRO, not a new contract for Miguel Cairo, who is 34 and &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/22/ms-jump-to-kiro/comment-page-1/#comment-291766</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Stone mentions the all-sports rumor in his &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/larrystone/2008067486_stone23.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KIRO&lt;/a&gt; story today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Stone mentions the all-sports rumor in his <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/larrystone/2008067486_stone23.html" rel="nofollow">KIRO</a> story today</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He deserves to be able to call it a career on his own terms. Once he hangs it up, he’s going to leave an incredible pair of shoes to fill.
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Amen to that, bro.  The Tigers (or, should I say specifically, Bo Schembechler -- who was a legend as a college football coach but a complete &lt;strong&gt;idiot&lt;/strong&gt; as a major league baseball GM) made that mistake years ago when, all of a sudden, they decided that Ernie Harwell -- who&#039;s also a Ford Frick Award winner and HOF broadcaster, BTW -- had probably outlived his usefulness and should be set out to pasture after decades behind the microphone doing play-by-play.  Needless to say, this sparked a HUGE public outcry in Tiger Nation for Ernie&#039;s return -- which eventually (about two seasons later) happened.  

Ironically, the team who replaced Harwell &amp; Paul Carey on the Tigers&#039; broadcasts during those years, you might ask?  Why, none other than two fellas by the name of Bob Rathbun &amp; (the M&#039;s very own) Rick Rizzs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He deserves to be able to call it a career on his own terms. Once he hangs it up, he’s going to leave an incredible pair of shoes to fill.
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<p>Amen to that, bro.  The Tigers (or, should I say specifically, Bo Schembechler &#8212; who was a legend as a college football coach but a complete <strong>idiot</strong> as a major league baseball GM) made that mistake years ago when, all of a sudden, they decided that Ernie Harwell &#8212; who&#8217;s also a Ford Frick Award winner and HOF broadcaster, BTW &#8212; had probably outlived his usefulness and should be set out to pasture after decades behind the microphone doing play-by-play.  Needless to say, this sparked a HUGE public outcry in Tiger Nation for Ernie&#8217;s return &#8212; which eventually (about two seasons later) happened.  </p>
<p>Ironically, the team who replaced Harwell &amp; Paul Carey on the Tigers&#8217; broadcasts during those years, you might ask?  Why, none other than two fellas by the name of Bob Rathbun &amp; (the M&#8217;s very own) Rick Rizzs!</p>
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		<title>By: Swungonandbelted</title>
		<link>http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/22/ms-jump-to-kiro/comment-page-1/#comment-291749</link>
		<dc:creator>Swungonandbelted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>43

Respectfully, you&#039;re talking apples and oranges.  An aging player in the field with declining abilities (legendary or not) means the difference between  success and failure.  I was really young for the 73 series, but I grew up a Dodgers fan (Grandpa had been following them since they were in Brooklyn) and if you were to go to LA and say that Vin Scully should have been put out to pasture, you would have started a brawl.  Likewise, tell a long time cubs fan that Harry Carry should have been retired, and you would have been treated like you were talking smack about their family.  Niehaus has been the one consistent thing for the M&#039;s through all of the losing, the winning, and the sucktitude that has been the past few years, he&#039;s seen GM&#039;s, managers, and players come and go, but his broadcasts through the years have helped to create the tapestry that is the M&#039;s history.  He deserves to be able to call it a career on his own terms.  Once he hangs it up, he&#039;s going to leave an incredible pair of shoes to fill.</description>
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<p>Respectfully, you&#8217;re talking apples and oranges.  An aging player in the field with declining abilities (legendary or not) means the difference between  success and failure.  I was really young for the 73 series, but I grew up a Dodgers fan (Grandpa had been following them since they were in Brooklyn) and if you were to go to LA and say that Vin Scully should have been put out to pasture, you would have started a brawl.  Likewise, tell a long time cubs fan that Harry Carry should have been retired, and you would have been treated like you were talking smack about their family.  Niehaus has been the one consistent thing for the M&#8217;s through all of the losing, the winning, and the sucktitude that has been the past few years, he&#8217;s seen GM&#8217;s, managers, and players come and go, but his broadcasts through the years have helped to create the tapestry that is the M&#8217;s history.  He deserves to be able to call it a career on his own terms.  Once he hangs it up, he&#8217;s going to leave an incredible pair of shoes to fill.</p>
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		<title>By: cdowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And why would KIRO flip to all sports? That would make four sports stations in the Puget Sound area (KIRO, KJR, KRKO 1380 in Everett, and KHHO 850.) That sounds like market saturation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*shrug* Not sure to be honest.  KJR is so well-embedded around here, and KRKO and KHHO more than pick up the slack in the areas KJR can&#039;t reach.  Seems like a semi-suicidal move to me, unless they pull it off perfectly in a way that buries KJR.  Of course, KIRO has been struggling in the last few years, so this may be their last-ditch effort to keep themselves afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And why would KIRO flip to all sports? That would make four sports stations in the Puget Sound area (KIRO, KJR, KRKO 1380 in Everett, and KHHO 850.) That sounds like market saturation.</p></blockquote>
<p>*shrug* Not sure to be honest.  KJR is so well-embedded around here, and KRKO and KHHO more than pick up the slack in the areas KJR can&#8217;t reach.  Seems like a semi-suicidal move to me, unless they pull it off perfectly in a way that buries KJR.  Of course, KIRO has been struggling in the last few years, so this may be their last-ditch effort to keep themselves afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: Raapba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raapba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #42. . . .are you old enough to remember Willie Mays in the 1973 World Series?  Dave has been very good for a long time--he is not quite that good any longer and would hate for him to have another stroke behind the mike.
Replacing him with a great announcer like Calabro would make it easier, replacing him with Rizz would make us all have a stroke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #42. . . .are you old enough to remember Willie Mays in the 1973 World Series?  Dave has been very good for a long time&#8211;he is not quite that good any longer and would hate for him to have another stroke behind the mike.<br />
Replacing him with a great announcer like Calabro would make it easier, replacing him with Rizz would make us all have a stroke!</p>
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		<title>By: Swungonandbelted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swungonandbelted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(1) ask Dave N. to retire&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I&#039;ve really gotta disagree with you here.  Asking Dave Niehaus to retire would cause an uproar like you would not believe.  Personally I like him calling the game, even if the occasional &quot;deep to right field...&quot; doesn&#039;t make it to the warning track. :)  Dave gets to hang up the mike when he&#039;s ready to, and not a minute sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(1) ask Dave N. to retire</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve really gotta disagree with you here.  Asking Dave Niehaus to retire would cause an uproar like you would not believe.  Personally I like him calling the game, even if the occasional &#8220;deep to right field&#8230;&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make it to the warning track. <img src='http://ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Dave gets to hang up the mike when he&#8217;s ready to, and not a minute sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulMolitorCocktail</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulMolitorCocktail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York Vinnie hosting the post-game again?


As far as announcers... bring back Ken Levine.  The &quot;Spicoli&quot; comment will live in history.

And why would KIRO flip to all sports?  That would make four sports stations in the Puget Sound area (KIRO, KJR, KRKO 1380 in Everett, and KHHO 850.)  That sounds like market saturation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York Vinnie hosting the post-game again?</p>
<p>As far as announcers&#8230; bring back Ken Levine.  The &#8220;Spicoli&#8221; comment will live in history.</p>
<p>And why would KIRO flip to all sports?  That would make four sports stations in the Puget Sound area (KIRO, KJR, KRKO 1380 in Everett, and KHHO 850.)  That sounds like market saturation.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drayer did move over KOMO from KJR...where, if I&#039;m not mistaken, she actually managed to get a word in edgewise once in a while on Mitch&#039;s morning show...  

When his ego didn&#039;t get in the way, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drayer did move over KOMO from KJR&#8230;where, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, she actually managed to get a word in edgewise once in a while on Mitch&#8217;s morning show&#8230;  </p>
<p>When his ego didn&#8217;t get in the way, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: G-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t there been broadcast people who went from KIRO to KOMO? 

I thought Drayer had been with KIRO when the M&#039;s were there, but I was wrong, she went from KJR to KOMO. I think that there was someone who had gone KIRO-to-KOMO though - Valle and Henderson, perhaps?

My point in raising the question is to assess the chances that some KOMO folks will go to KIRO. I think it is very likely, and Drayer would be my #1 choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t there been broadcast people who went from KIRO to KOMO? </p>
<p>I thought Drayer had been with KIRO when the M&#8217;s were there, but I was wrong, she went from KJR to KOMO. I think that there was someone who had gone KIRO-to-KOMO though &#8211; Valle and Henderson, perhaps?</p>
<p>My point in raising the question is to assess the chances that some KOMO folks will go to KIRO. I think it is very likely, and Drayer would be my #1 choice.</p>
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