Comments on: 2009 Position Players

By: LordLes

LordLes — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:49:53 +0000

I’m having troubles seeing the entire spreadsheet.

And may I have permission to print the spreadsheet and your comments to show other people?

By: G-Man

G-Man — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:52:56 +0000

I assume Cot’s service times are as of the beginning of this season, so Melky is going to have 2.5 years at the end and perhaps even be arb-eligible then.

Until I see five better starters in the offing for the 2009 Mariners, I am unwilling to simply dump Washburn for dreck. Maybe I am too caught up in his recent performances, but he doesn’t look that bad compared to an unknown arm we dig up this winter. If we could get a little bit of true value for him, that would be different.

By: Graham

Graham — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:54:50 +0000

Ah, mediocrity. I remember that. Wasn’t it nice, compared to this?

No. Mediocrity sucks. 2005 and 2006 were way less fun than 2004.

By: Steve T

Steve T — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:09:43 +0000

Ah, mediocrity. I remember that. Wasn’t it nice, compared to this?

By: Matt the Dragon

Matt the Dragon — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:57:31 +0000

Our rookies – Morrow, Clement, Balentin, RRS, and several others are at best 2WAR, and thus NOT enough to get us to even mediocrity…

Umm, +2 WAR is the definition of mediocrity (i.e. +0 Wins Above Average)

By: Mothy

Mothy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:59:46 +0000

Oh wait… I understand the formula now. I’m an idiot. (I really need to get more sleep)

By: scott19

scott19 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:33:32 +0000

I’d take Jose Vidro leading off and playing center field every day if it meant Washburn was off the team

The thought of that is both deeeeep hurting and deeeeep loathing!

By: Steve T

Steve T — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:11:44 +0000

Walks don’t come at the expense of hits, they come at the expense of outs.

Walks are by definition on balls out of the strike zone, and despite everything you’ve heard about “bad ball hitters” everybody hits much, much worse on balls out of the strikezone. So those walks replace mostly outs, not hits.

By: Mothy

Mothy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:56:13 +0000

The post on wOBA says “Singles are worth a bit more than walks, but less than doubles, which are worth less than triples, and nothing is worth more than a home run”… So how would seeing less good pitches and there by getting walked or getting out instead of getting hits of any sort not have an effect whatsoever on wOBA? I could see how you could argue that the effect would be tiny and therefore meaningless, but I don’t see how if it weighs singles, doubles, triples, and home runs heavier than walks how it wouldn’t have an effect on the rating.

By: Milendriel

Milendriel — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:48:18 +0000

102- I’ll take anything that involves Washburn going away. Like, I’d take Jose Vidro leading off and playing center field every day if it meant Washburn was off the team. Same for any of our horrible contracts, really.