Comments on: The Manny Deal http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/ Seattle Mariners and general baseball discussion with David Cameron and Derek Zumsteg Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:39:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: BaltimoreDave http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293803 BaltimoreDave Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:56:43 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293803 That it was on the table at all is what's nuts. Even with the Sox paying the freight on Manny they should expect to get almost nothing back, much less an actual, legitimate player. As Dave said, he's not even an on-field upgrade. It's such a blatant payroll-slashing move. Shameful. That it was on the table at all is what’s nuts. Even with the Sox paying the freight on Manny they should expect to get almost nothing back, much less an actual, legitimate player. As Dave said, he’s not even an on-field upgrade. It’s such a blatant payroll-slashing move. Shameful.

]]> By: JerBear http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293779 JerBear Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:11:11 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293779 Well from all accounts the deal is rapidly falling apart and won't happen. So I guess it's a moot point now. Well from all accounts the deal is rapidly falling apart and won’t happen.

So I guess it’s a moot point now.

]]> By: scott19 http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293771 scott19 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:03:00 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293771 <blockquote>I’d expect more from Beinfest</blockquote> Well, yeah, that's true...though, unfortunately, it comes down to <em>who's</em> still signing his paycheck. <blockquote>Loria is an evil genius.</blockquote> From this point forward, he shall be dubbed Loria The Destroyer!

I’d expect more from Beinfest

Well, yeah, that’s true…though, unfortunately, it comes down to who’s still signing his paycheck.

Loria is an evil genius.

From this point forward, he shall be dubbed Loria The Destroyer!

]]> By: galaxieboi http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293754 galaxieboi Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:34:51 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293754 Loria is a bad, bad man. Loria is a bad, bad man.

]]> By: joser http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293743 joser Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:10:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293743 The Red Sox are already paying a big chunk of Loria's profits (along with the other teams, and especially the luxury-tax Yankees). Keeping payroll below the revenue sharing payments is how he does his business. I'm not sure why the owners put up with it, but I'm sure he's told them it will stop after the Marlins get their sweet, two-thirds-taxpyaer-paid stadium. Which of course didn't get arranged until six years after he acquired the team, and it just so happens the loan MLB gave him to buy the Marlins (in exchange for the Expos team he ran into the ground) expired if he didn't get a stadium deal in <i>five</i> years. Though they're still trying to make him pay 40%, and <a href="http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/57632" rel="nofollow">he's fighting that too</a>. Loria is an evil genius. Dave Samson is just his Igor. The Red Sox are already paying a big chunk of Loria’s profits (along with the other teams, and especially the luxury-tax Yankees). Keeping payroll below the revenue sharing payments is how he does his business. I’m not sure why the owners put up with it, but I’m sure he’s told them it will stop after the Marlins get their sweet, two-thirds-taxpyaer-paid stadium. Which of course didn’t get arranged until six years after he acquired the team, and it just so happens the loan MLB gave him to buy the Marlins (in exchange for the Expos team he ran into the ground) expired if he didn’t get a stadium deal in five years. Though they’re still trying to make him pay 40%, and he’s fighting that too.

Loria is an evil genius. Dave Samson is just his Igor.

]]> By: bratman http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293651 bratman Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:28:07 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293651 Manny would really be Manny in South Beach Manny would really be Manny in South Beach

]]> By: BaltimoreDave http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293638 BaltimoreDave Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:14:21 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293638 What's most disgusting about this deal isn't even the on-field ramifications for Florida, but their laser-like focus on paring payroll whenever and however possible. That the Red Sox will be paying the balance of Manny's salary, while helping the Marlins free themselves of Hermida's inevitable rise in salary, is just awful. They have to be the only franchise willing to be complicit in such a ridiculous scheme. What’s most disgusting about this deal isn’t even the on-field ramifications for Florida, but their laser-like focus on paring payroll whenever and however possible. That the Red Sox will be paying the balance of Manny’s salary, while helping the Marlins free themselves of Hermida’s inevitable rise in salary, is just awful.

They have to be the only franchise willing to be complicit in such a ridiculous scheme.

]]> By: Benne http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293634 Benne Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:52:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293634 Don't the Marlins need, like, some pitching or something if they hope to leapfrog New York and Philly? I was under the impression that their offense is the least of their worries. Don’t the Marlins need, like, some pitching or something if they hope to leapfrog New York and Philly? I was under the impression that their offense is the least of their worries.

]]> By: Jake http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293631 Jake Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:07:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293631 Hmm..wasn't it Dave Samson, President of the Florida Marlins, that criticized the Ichiro extension publicly? This is the same guy that may trade away significant future building blocks for 2 months of Manny, which project to be roughly a +10 Run improvement for the rest of the year..which by the way would not help them past 3rd place in the NL East. Brilliant. Hmm..wasn’t it Dave Samson, President of the Florida Marlins, that criticized the Ichiro extension publicly? This is the same guy that may trade away significant future building blocks for 2 months of Manny, which project to be roughly a +10 Run improvement for the rest of the year..which by the way would not help them past 3rd place in the NL East.

Brilliant.

]]> By: 14limes http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/30/the-manny-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-293628 14limes Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:17:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5645#comment-293628 Dude! Second-guess it on Friday, will you? I want to move Manny before the Fish change their minds! Dude! Second-guess it on Friday, will you? I want to move Manny before the Fish change their minds!

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